If Crosby asked for a trade and Marner was open to moving to Pittsburgh, it would be a 1 for 1.

MM hitting his prime and Sid is turing 37. it's not 1for 1

lmfao

avg TOR post.

What's wrong with it? its not 1991 anymore you have to give something up for MM Sid is turing 37

I don't disagree but it would be a 1 for 1 trade. And for the first year or two could look a lot better for TO. It absolutely don't think it would ever happen. It would be maybe more likely that he leaves at the deadline and gives 1 or 2 options and that's all. At 50%, he'd bring back a pretty sick return, but it would be manageable. N

Both players are only signed for next year, so only consideration is how do you think each player performs next year. Both players are pretty comparable from this stand point. But when you add in Crosby's play off performance vs MM, and also his lower cap hit, the statement that it is not a 1 for 1 trade is very valid. However, it needs to be Toronto adding something, not Pitt.

The fact that 1. You think the penguins would even consider this and 2. that Sid would waive to go to the king of the Stanley Cup droughts.

So let me get this straight. You think the Penguins are going to move Sidney Crosby, and they are going to add to do it? The average Marner ACGM has him being traded for significanty less than just Crosby. And you expect us to add our top prospect and a 1st?

Imagine that on a fantasy form someone would post something that wont happen in real life.

Reasons it makes sense from the Pens

You get MM one of the top defensive playmakers in the game who is just hitting his prime and can be locked up for the next 9 years who has history with Dubas. Also a fun fact Dubas has a history of re acquiring past players like Acciri and Bunting.

As far as Sid goes The Leaf's are in a much better place to win than the NHLs oldest team

When you factor in that Mitch is just hitting his prime now and can be locked up for another 8 years for a total of 9 I would say yes.

The Pens are going to need to rebuild, retool what ever you want to call it very soon.

Dubas make a mistake with the Karlson trade so he will need to do something to try and make the playoffs

Ignoring that it is unlikely both Crosby and Marner would waive, at best for TOR it would be one for one as both are rentals and Crosby is worth AT LEAST as much as Marner for next season. Center is more valuable than winger. Marner might be superior offensively, Crosby is superior all around. FSG would need a long playoff run to compensate for the MILLIONS they lose in profit if they traded Crosby. There's absolutely no chance they would add to it, even if Crosby said he will sign as a UFA next offseason in TOR they are better off keeping Crosby as a rental for one season than this deal. Marner would need to have a GREAT season for FSG to make up the financial loss and they aren't going to risk doing that adding the two best futures the org. has.

IF it was 1 year of each then yes I would say 1 for 1 would be right but IF he was to waive he would also be signing an extension so its not 1 year its 9 years of Marner for 1 maybe 2 or 3 of Crosby

NHL doesn't allow trade compensation contingent on player extension any more. So it would have to be a sign and trade. Moreover, PIT selling their best center a to be best winger is a lateral move at best in the short term and will prolong the rebuild likelihood in the long term. So there is no net benefit of having an elite winger like Marner on a rebuilding team. Might as well just keep Crosby and rebuild in a few years when he retires with Yager and the 1st.

Dubas chose not to rebuild when he traded for Karlsson so I don't see him making an about face now.

In most cases the general manager does not have the latitude to make those decisions. Ownership makes those decisions. Dubas likely would have been terminated immediately if he tried to rebuild last summer. Most front office have to abide by what ownership wants. Plenty of them probably understand the team should be rebuilding but are not allowed that course of action so due to ownership oversight. Toronto is a rather unique case and that it is such a large profitable market that they will still be fine with an aggressive rebuild.

There's no guarantee Marner sticks in Pittsburgh long-term. I actually think he won't if he comes here. The Pens would be trading their captain, a top 5 NHL player of all time, who is still one of the NHL's best at the age of 36, plus a 1st and their top prospect for a guy who isn't guaranteed to stay for longer than a year. Surely that would help the rebuild.

Because Marner won't do that. Acquiring him takes valuable assets away from that rebuild, and then gives us a player that is good enough to keep us away from the best picks but not good enough to turn what the Pens are going to be in a few years into a playoff team. We have nothing. No blue-chip prospects, no young, homegrown talent. Just Marner and a bunch of holdovers that aren't young enough, good enough, or valueable enough to get assets for. Mediocre: the worst thing a professional sports team can be. Too good to rebuild, to bad to contend and stuck there.

Then there's the issue that our center depth sucks. Pens fans complained about Malkin as much as Leafs fans complain about Tavares. I think he's still good enough, especially with good wingers. Then below Geno on the depth chart is Lars Eller, Noel Acciari, and a couple guys with limited/no NHL experience. Real contender there, that Eller might be there 2C.

I don't think Karlsson was a mistake. There's still time for him to help right the ship, especially with Todd Rierdan out and the Pens with some youth and cap space to work with. This trade immediately sets that ship on fire and starts a city-wide mutiny. If you think there is a single thing it does that is in Pittsburgh's best interest, you're not thinking.

A fantasy form lol. Nah bro you think something like this is possible.

Reasons your points make no sense: The penguins are about to rebuild, acquiring someone like Mitch Marner is worthless to a rebuild. Giving way a 1st and their best prospect at the same time is even worse for their rebuild.

Sid will sign a new contract this summer, if he were to ever leave, it's Colorado or Montreal, so you can stay in your fantasy land, might I suggest NHL 24.... at least there the Leafs can win a cup.

TOR fans look so desperate

You do know that 99% on the posts on here never happen right? Some people take things too seriously but I guess if you reply to enough of these you might become a GM one day

They should have started a rebuild already but the fact that they went and got Karlsson shows they are not thinking rebuild.

Why would he want to go from one non playoff team to another non playoff team in Montreal. IF he was to leave Pittsburg it would 100% not be Montreal

You're really showing your lack of hockey knowledge.

1. It's Pittsburgh, not Pittsburg
2. He grew up a huge Montreal fan, that's extremely well known by anyone that watches hockey. Hence why everyone says if there were a team he'd waive for, it would be his childhood team.. (or Colorado b/c his best friend plays there).

he has nothing left to prove in his legacy, he has three cups, he doesn't need to ring chase.

So when you have nothing of value to add you go to spelling lol that shows you lost

Just because its his childhood team doe snot mean he ants to end his career there and that They would give up assets to acquire him.

IF you think just because he has 3 rings he doesn't want more?

I added facts... you just ignored them.

You're proud of Toronto (I'd assume), I'm proud of Pittsburgh, so yes, I'll correct you every time.

No, he wants to finish his career the same way his idol Mario did, one team and even more so he wants to finish it with his two teammates that have practically become brothers.

He will never play for Toronto, it's pretty well understood by everyone in the hockey world that there could only be two other teams he'd play for.

Whatever helps your fantasy though go for it.