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Created by: Leafsfan98
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2024
Published: May 14, 2024
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What if Berube comes in and want Marner and Nylander traded?

Just a random thought that came to my head...
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$2,500,000
2$1,350,000
2$1,000,000
6$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,500,000
7$3,000,000
5$5,500,000
1$7,000,000
2$2,200,000
4$5,500,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Theodore, Shea
  3. Whitecloud, Zach
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
COMP: PLD trade to LAK

3rd team retains 2 mill on Marner to make the cap fit

Theodore's is this trade's Villardi
Whitecloud is this trade's Iafollo
Howden is this trade's Kupari
2nd=2nd

Obviously Theodore is better than Villardi but Marner's better than PLD

Both come with extensions... Theodore at 7.5 by 8 and Mitch at 11.5 by 8
2.
TOR
  1. Evans, Jake
  2. Xhekaj, Florian
  3. Xhekaj, Arber [RFA Rights]
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
MTL
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Nylander, William
Additional Details:
This one is the most wild to me...

MTL needs forward talent and they have an oversupply of defensemen... one name that's been circling around is Arber Xhekaj... I'm wondering whether the Canadians would be interesting in addressing their needs at the cost of sending Xhekajs+ to Toronto

Comp ROR to BUF:

Willy>>ROR
1st>2nd
Arber=Zadorov
Evans = Grigorenko
Florian = Compher

Obviously no need for extension here as Brad's already signed Willy to 8 years...
3.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (BOS)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (BOS)
WSH
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
Additional Details:
COMP: Rasmus Sandin trade

There's no more room for Lilly, just like there was no room for Rasmus which is sad for me as I'm a huge fan of Lilly

This is equal in value to a late 1st, as WAS doesn't have one
4.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (WSH)
ARI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
Additional Details:
ANY TEAM: not much to say here
5.
TOR
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. 2025 1st round pick (MTL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
MTL
  1. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
Swapping for Nylander value
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the WSH
Logo of the BOS
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2026
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$85,941,667$0$0$1,758,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Matthews, Auston
$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Domi, Max
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
DeBrusk, Jake
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
Howden, Brett
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Lindholm, Elias
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C, RW
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
McMann, Bobby
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Dewar, Connor
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Kämpf, David
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
Evans, Jake
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Holmberg, Pontus
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Reaves, Ryan
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Pesce, Brett
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Woll, Joseph
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
Theodore, Shea
$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
Whitecloud, Zach
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 4
Stolarz, Anthony
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA
Waivers ExemptXhekaj, Arber
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
McCabe, Jake
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Benoit, Simon
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Jones, Martin
$850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
UFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Waivers ExemptHildeby, Dennis
$843,333$843,333 ($0$0$0$0)
G
RFA - 1

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May 14 at 11:17 a.m.
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Montreal is not moving the Xhekaj's but the value favours Montreal in that offer imo. Still, don't see it as a deal that gets made.
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May 14 at 11:17 a.m.
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That Nylander trade is outrageous
May 14 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Montreal is not moving the Xhekaj's but the value favours Montreal in that offer imo. Still, don't see it as a deal that gets made.


I understand why... Would have to think that Treliving would at least inquire about MTL's Xhekajs...

Quoting: Branden23
That Nylander trade is outrageous


I should probably swap CGY 1st for MTL 1st tbh... But thought I thought it was ironic given that was prob the pick that fired Tre...
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May 14 at 11:22 a.m.
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One 2nd for Lilly is sufficient.
May 14 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: All_Knowing
One 2nd for Lilly is sufficient.


Weren't we all saying the same for Sandin?
May 14 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
I understand why... Would have to think that Treliving would at least inquire about MTL's Xhekajs...



I should probably swap CGY 1st for MTL 1st tbh... But thought I thought it was ironic given that was prob the pick that fired Tre...


That trade is no where near the value of Nylander, like literally so far off, they could add Salfkovsky and they'd still be a mile away
May 14 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Branden23
That trade is no where near the value of Nylander, like literally so far off, they could add Salfkovsky and they'd still be a mile away


That's outrageous tbh... I added a prospect+MTL's 1st+3rd which seems like a lot...
May 14 at 11:26 a.m.
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A late 1st Is definitely not worth two 2nd’s and 3rd .
Hopefully Washington wouldn’t do this lol
May 14 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Bearshark91
A late 1st Is definitely not worth two 2nd’s and 3rd .
Hopefully Washington wouldn’t do this lol


The values disagree: https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/

28th OVR: 158
50th OVR: 61
55th OVR: 50
81rst OVR: 21

61+50+21=132 which is 20 pts of draft value off the 28th and in line with the 32nd OVR pick (the latest 1st)
May 14 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That's outrageous tbh... I added a prospect+MTL's 1st+3rd which seems like a lot...


You're really over valuing the Xhekaj's
May 14 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Branden23
You're really over valuing the Xhekaj's


Like most teams would... Look at Zadorov via trade... Main piece for ROR

Look at the ROR to BUF comp... ROR was a 24 year old Selke caliber defensive forward... Nylander's better than ROR, but this package is better than the original one...
May 14 at 11:38 a.m.
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I'd love to add Liljegren. The Caps offer you their own 25 second, a signed Sandin jersey, and a jumbo bag of doritos. The Caps have 5 RHD under contract, giving up two top 60 picks and another top 100 pick for a position that's not a need is asinine
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May 14 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: BoringBrianMacLellan
I'd love to add Liljegren. The Caps offer you their own 25 second, a signed Sandin jersey, and a jumbo bag of doritos. The Caps have 5 RHD under contract, giving up two top 60 picks and another top 100 pick for a position that's not a need is asinine


Probably should have said ANY TEAM tbh... As it's not for a player-specifically
May 14 at 11:43 a.m.
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As noted above, the most the caps should give up for Liljegren is a second. If the leafs can find a better trade partner somewhere else that will give what you’re hoping for, they should go there. The caps can’t afford to dump that much draft capital into a position where they have a surplus of players. RD needs to be retooled, but I’d rather look at a guy like Roy or Walker in UFA before trading and extending liljegren.
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May 14 at 11:44 a.m.
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Quoting: brady_t12
As noted above, the most the caps should give up for Liljegren is a second. If the leafs can find a better trade partner somewhere else that will give what you’re hoping for, they should go there. The caps can’t afford to dump that much draft capital into a position where they have a surplus of players. RD needs to be retooled, but I’d rather look at a guy like Roy or Walker in UFA before trading and extending liljegren.


That's fair... Like I said above...

"Probably should have said ANY TEAM tbh... As it's not for a player-specifically"
May 14 at 12:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
Montreal is not moving the Xhekaj's but the value favours Montreal in that offer imo. Still, don't see it as a deal that gets made.


Agreed. Also dont see a Nylander contract lining up with our core either. Montreal wouldn't do this, but its a fair trade.
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May 14 at 12:07 p.m.
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The only moment of hesitation comes when Montreal realizes that WiFi is going to a division rival. If Nylander were a San Jose Shark Montreal does that without delay/.
May 14 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: KingMurray
The only moment of hesitation comes when Montreal realizes that WiFi is going to a division rival. If Nylander were a San Jose Shark Montreal does that without delay/.


That's fair... I'm just thinking that with Zadorov going to COL to CHI and from CGY to VAN... I don't think MTL would care about value if they were to address their need for the next 5-7 years (not going to pretend 37 year old Willy's going to post up anything above 60 pts)
 
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