Quoting: palhal
Ess. Vegas will still have to put a NHL team on the ice this year. They have ton of picks so adding 3rd rounder or so is almost meaningless to them. I'll stick my opinion that Hagelin and his six goals is no way worth his 4m salary. If he is of such value, why do Pens fans keep on trading him?
Pouilet is working himself to a suspect not prospect. Lot of teams of AHL prospects too, I just don't think there is value in trading for one.
Yes, I saw Kessel in Toronto. Don't be fooled by his goal production. For long stretches especially late in his Leaf career his was a poor NHL player. No effect in defensive zone (when he was there). Just pass the puck to me.
I'm saying Phil is in the ideal spot for in Pittsburg. He'll never be better. Trading him to a non contender and without winners prodding him, his production and overall play will decline drasticallyIMO
Trochek was just signed to nice deal with Florida and you want an NHL Dman a better prospect in McCann than Pouilet. I just don't think teams, I wouldn't would trade for Phil. He played at his level with the Pens and he when his production declines he might turn to his sulking , disinterested ways as he did with the Leafs.
Vegas is getting 2 NHL forwards to put a team on the ice. They've been saying they need to build through the draft. A 26y old 4th line player from another team isn't going to make or break them. If they're looking at their team this year when trading then they have no future. A 3rd round pick has the potential to be anything from a bust to a super star player. It's an asset. They traded Methot for 3rd and prospect that's projected not to make the NHL. That 3rd meant something.
Hagelin is being shopped because he has value but is expendable when we have 12 forwards who have won Stanley Cups. You do realize CHI traded Panarin, Hjalmarsson, Shaw, Ladd, Versteeg, Saad, Leddy, Byfuglien ... Were all those players bad? No. but when you look at the rooster he's the obvious man to trade because of his age, salary, and the fact that PIT is very deep at that position. Do you trade Rust, who's on a entry level deal or Hagelin who's older and making more? His injuries this past year showed us that he is expendable on this roster and other players could fill his role. His value at the deadline is probably two 2nd rd picks, or a 2nd and a 3rd ... at least in most years. This draft is supposed to be pretty deep, but Vegas has the Cap space to retain salary, asking for more in picks and potential for cap hits, and not hurt the fact that they will not make the playoffs for 3-5 yrs minimum. They have a bunch of quality forwards (many UFAs they might not be able to move), and a ton of defense man. How many Stanely Cup champions do they have? You might not see the value in that, but many teams do. Especially at the deadline.
"...especially late in his Leaf career ..." Toronto had who playing with him? That teams was crap from the net out. FLA is better than TOR was for all those years. Huberdeau, Barkov, and Ekblad would have been considered SUPERstars in TOR 3 years ago. He was their only hope of offense on that team, and even with taking games off he was more offense for his teams than any other player in the league. I'd be disinterested in playing with the Leafs during his time ... look at your tag. "longtimeLeafsufferer" ... you just watched the team. He was on the team, listening to fans ***** about his play (putting up 60-85pt a season) when the entire team sucked. He could give 120% every single night and those teams would still lose because they stunk. Some marriages end in divorce ... especially when there is no support. The city and the Leafs organization deserves at least half the blame for Kessel's short comings.
You're complaining about the performance of a guy who was playing for nothing. In the regular season many stars don't give it their all, because the games really don't matter. Crosby and Malkin used to score 120 pts, have 4 pt nights every other game, and now they save it for the playoffs ... and win cups. They take time off during the regular season because they just need to make the playoffs.
FLA is on the verge of the playoffs. Adding Kessel and signing a guy like Iginla might be all they need. TOR needed to bomb year after year to build through the draft ... which takes me back to the my point about Haula/Hagelin and Vegas and building through the draft ...
What would the counteroffers be?