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Created by: We_Want_The_Cup

Team: 2017-18 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2017

Published: Aug. 9, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

And you've still got a ton of cap space to spare...

- Jagr is meant to mentor the youth. With all that cap space, you can sign him for 4m x 2yrs if that's what it'll take to convince him.
- The others I kept (Abdelkader, Nielsen, Tatar, Zetterberg, Sheahan) are because they're either on untradeable contracts, or they're your star captain, or I still have hope in their young selves. They will also help steer the youth, and in any case, it's not like you have many players to call up if I traded them.
- My main intention was to nab good draft picks and completely shake up the D with some younger players. If they don't pan out, it's fine, because the next wave of newly drafted D will follow them.
- I think there's a good chance someone says that's not enough to nab Haydn Fleury. While that's possible, unproven players don't typically cost gold. However, the return of Nyquist should be promising for them, and he can produce some offense. Worst case, we can up it to Nyquist+2x2nd. (also yes, I see that typo. It's CAR* not COL)

- MAJOR UPDATE: After further review, I seem to have been wrong about the Maatta for Helm(1.35m retained) trade. I've fixed it now.

- I've also opted to trade away Franzen to a team who can use his LTIR status, à la Coyotes. You won't be needing that room anymore with rookies instead of overpaid veterans.
- While we're at it, I traded for Brown as another creative cap trade. You have the space now. Save the Kings and get paid for doing it.
- You may ignore the last two trades. They're so speculative and incredibly difficult to value (because these sorts of trades are rare) that they're not worth arguing on. I could easily go on and reverse the trades and still have embarked on a good rebuild.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Athanasiou, Andreas		4	$2,200,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Jágr, Jaromír		2	$2,000,000

Trades

DET

2019 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Green, Mike

Additional Details:

Chosen team is arbitrary. Any playoff team with a need on D will work.

DET

Fleury, Haydn

CAR

Nyquist, Gustav
2018 3rd round pick (DET)
2019 2nd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

Bolstering COL's top-6, they have the cap space for 2 years. Might give them the push necessary to become a playoff wildcard team.

DET

2018 1st round pick (CHI)

Additional Details:

Late first round pick exchanged for early 2nd round pick and early another 3rd. Kronwall used as tool for uptrade.

CHI

Kronwall, Niklas ($2,375,000 retained)
2018 2nd round pick (DET)
2020 3rd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

Kronwall as 5D. Shouldn't cause cap issues since his contract comes off the books just on time for Panik, Schmaltz, and co.

DET

2018 3rd round pick (COL)

COL

Ericsson, Jonathan
Witkowski, Luke
2018 5th round pick (DET)

DET

Lindgren, Charlie
2019 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

This trade is just gravy. It seems likely that Lindgren will become a good NHL goalie very, very soon. He already seems ready for the backup role. Have him back up Howard until his contract expires, and then he takes the mantle.

MTL

2018 2nd round pick (OTT)

DET

2018 2nd round pick (BOS)

BOS

Mrázek, Petr ($2,000,000 retained)
2019 3rd round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

Tuukka can't do it all on his own and needs help, and this could create a solid tandem for BOS. Better than the shaky backups they have now.

DET

2019 4th round pick (PIT)

PIT

Helm, Darren ($1,350,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Helm as veteran 3C for 2.5M cap hit.

DET

Ludwig Bystrom, 2018 1st (THIS WAS A FAILED ATTEMPT AT CREATIVE CAP ACCOUNTING. I've reversed the trade but kept it here as testament to the previous attempt.)

DAL

Johan Franzen, 2019 1st (THIS WAS A FAILED ATTEMPT AT CREATIVE CAP ACCOUNTING. I've reversed the trade but kept it here as testament to the previous attempt.)

DET

Dustin Brown, 2019 2nd (THIS TRADE IS NO LONGER USEFUL since the Franzen creative cap accounting trade doesn't work any longer. I've reversed the trade but kept it here as testament to the previous attempt.)

LAK

2019 4th (THIS TRADE IS NO LONGER USEFUL since the Franzen creative cap accounting trade doesn't work any longer. I've reversed the trade but kept it here as testament to the previous attempt.)

Buyouts

Stephen Weiss: $2,566,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Niklas Kronwall: $2,375,000 (50%)
Petr Mrázek: $2,000,000 (100%)
Darren Helm: $1,350,000 (35.06%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$75,000,000	$59,577,498	$457,500	$1,965,000	$15,422,502

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Zetterberg, Henrik $6,083,333$6,083,333 C UFA - 4	Jágr, Jaromír $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Athanasiou, Andreas $2,200,000$2,200,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $925,000$925,000 ($650,000$650K) C UFA - 1	Mantha, Anthony $863,333$863,333 LW, RW UFA - 1
Abdelkader, Justin $4,250,000$4,250,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 6	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 5	Frk, Martin $650,000$650,000 RW UFA - 1
Svechnikov, Evgeny $863,333$863,333 LW, RW UFA - 3	Sheahan, Riley $2,075,000$2,075,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 4
Bertuzzi, Tyler $661,667$661,667 ($207,500$208K) LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 5	Daley, Trevor $3,166,666$3,166,666 RD NTC UFA - 3	Howard, Jimmy $5,291,666$5,291,666 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Ouellet, Xavier $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Jensen, Nick $812,500$812,500 RD UFA - 2
Sproul, Ryan $625,000$625,000 RD UFA - 1	Fleury, Haydn $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 2	Lindgren, Charlie $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Saarijärvi, Vili $697,500$697,500 ($257,500$258K) RD RFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Franzen, Johan $3,954,545$3,954,545 RW, LW UFA - 3

Aug. 9, 2017 at 6:41 p.m.

HABS19

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pretty good

Aug. 9, 2017 at 7:20 p.m.

Willian_Cardoso

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Your trade for Maatta is a joke. Compare him with Helm is an offense to any Pens fan.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 7:23 p.m.

BreKel

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Eh....I wouldn't want to give up a 2nd round pick here, but the idea is good. Mrazek is coming off a horrid season, but has shown solid goaltending in the past. If you could do a 2018 3rd, it'd be worth considering for Boston. I understand he's retained.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 7:41 p.m.

We_Want_The_Cup

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Edited Aug. 9, 2017 at 7:58 p.m.

Quoting: Willian_Cardoso

Your trade for Maatta is a joke. Compare him with Helm is an offense to any Pens fan.

I don't know bud. I constantly see Maatta be compared to a bag of pucks in Pittsburgh... At least you got someone who can experience a rebirth as Bonino did.
EDIT: It's also a cap dump in your favor. Got rid of 4M, got veteran 3C at 2.5M for only 2 years. If you would prefer Maatta for Nielsen with no retention, I'll give it to you in a heartbeat.

Quoting: BreKel

You do realize the difference between a BOS 2nd and the DET 3rd you're getting back with Mrazek will be around 15 picks or so? I think it's fair to nab Mrazek at 2M for a 15-picks drop in the draft board.
The alternate, of course, is to trade Mrazek (50% retained) for a 3rd and 4th, but then DET will easily be on the losing side of that trade.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 8:39 p.m.

BreKel

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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup

You do realize the difference between a BOS 2nd and the DET 3rd you're getting back with Mrazek will be around 15 picks or so? I think it's fair to nab Mrazek at 2M for a 15-picks drop in the draft board.

The alternate, of course, is to trade Mrazek (50% retained) for a 3rd and 4th, but then DET will easily be on the losing side of that trade.

I completely missed the pick coming back. My apologies!

Aug. 9, 2017 at 9:02 p.m.

Willian_Cardoso

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They are not real Pens fans and thank god none of them are our GM. I'm sure that a great GM like Rutheford is far from think like them.

Maatta had some injuries indeed, but most of the time he's lost was because of a tumor. It's cruel with a so talented kid that breaks through a terrible disease like cancer be treated this way.

He's 22 talented, resilient and poise d-man with a great upside and dump him now it'd be one of the stupidest things that our team could do. As I said, a great GM like Rutheford certainly won't do that.

Maatta really deserves credit and time to keep developing all his potential.

Aug. 9, 2017 at 9:10 p.m.

We_Want_The_Cup

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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso

Hmmm, that's actually interesting to know, thanks!
In that case, if your GM feels the same way, modify the trade to Helm (1.35M retained) for a 2019 4th.
FYI I just realized Helm has 4 years left, not 2. That does lower his trade value considerably... Would make a Maatta trade impossible, even with 50% retention and even if he had lost PIT's trust. Hence why in the trade correction above, I ask for a 2019 4th instead of a 2018 3rd.

Quoting: BreKel

I completely missed the pick coming back. My apologies!

Don't sweat it buddy!

Aug. 9, 2017 at 9:41 p.m.

We_Want_The_Cup

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Just modified things and did a few more major moves. What do you think? Too ballsy?

Aug. 10, 2017 at 9:15 a.m.

JuniorGM

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The Dallas trade would never happen. Dallas is over cap and contracts taking on another contract they can't do right now. Plus they need cap space next summer which you don't get on LITR. Also no team pays to take on cap hit. You pay to get rid of it. I get what you were trying to do but it just can't work like you think.

Aug. 10, 2017 at 9:41 a.m.

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We_Want_The_Cup

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Edited Aug. 10, 2017 at 9:59 a.m.

Quoting: JuniorGM

I just checked the numbers here: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/86344
You're right. I was mislead by CapFriendly's depiction of the Stars cap space, because they iced 24 players instead of the maximum 23 here: https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/stars
Thus, we can completely cancel that trade and assume it never happened. Doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things (we move back to 2019 draft but much higher pick, and we don't get Bystrom)

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