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Quoting: TabooPenguo

You could use Clutterbuck as a temporary 3RW until you can acquire an actual 3RW then move Clutterbuck to your 4th line.

Burrows is an okay 4RW

Quoting: krakowitz

I don’t, but if you need to send him as a cap dump, that’s what I will value him as. He has zero actual value to me

What would you be interested in? Forsberg+?

Quoting: DavidBooth7

@rangersandislesfan just for additional reference, Clutterbuck alone has as many goals as Mitchell and Burrows combined, and has as many points as Mitchell and Burrows combined.

We aren’t demanding anything extraordinary, just picks.

Also, it gets rid of cap space for us

Quoting: flamesfan419

I'll give ya 3 options.

1. 2018 1st + 2019 2nd

2. 2019 1st & 2nd

3. Also have Reimer as a cheaper option. 2019 2nd & 3rd

He was spotted wearing socks with sandals at the beach, and that's just wrong.

Not interested in Reimer and not interested in trading picks ... prospects and/or current NHLers and/or other picks?

Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:33 a.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

Also, it gets rid of cap space for us

Not sure I understand

Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:39 a.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

What would you be interested in? Forsberg+?

I’d more be looking for picks

Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:20 a.m.

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Quoting: DavidBooth7

Not sure I understand

I'm saying we'd have to take his cap hit.

Quoting: krakowitz

I’d more be looking for picks

We're not giving you 1sts or anything though ... we're not too interested in moving higher picks at the moment. We might but not 1sts just so you know.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:05 a.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

I'm saying we'd have to take his cap.

Okay now I understand.

You could add a piece like Clarke MacArthur (who’s eating up a bit of salary from you), so that we could balance it out. It only means that his price would increase a little, again in terms of picks.

Basically

New York Islanders

Picks
Clarke MacArthur

Ottawa Senators

Cal Clutterbuck

The picks are for you and I to negotiate on

Mar. 20, 2018 at 11:29 a.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

We're not giving you 1sts or anything though ... we're not too interested in moving higher picks at the moment. We might but not 1sts just so you know.

Id need your 2019 2nd, 2018 4th and 7th. If you want me to take Anderson’s contract from you, you’re gonna have to add something else as well

Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:30 p.m.

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Quoting: DavidBooth7

Picks
Clarke MacArthur

Ottawa Senators

Cal Clutterbuck

The picks are for you and I to negotiate on

Once again though, Burrows is a decent 4th line RW. This makes me more interested but still not too interested ... what picks are you looking for? We might give you a later pick but that's about it.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 12:31 p.m.

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Quoting: krakowitz

Id need your 2019 2nd, 2018 4th and 7th. If you want me to take Anderson’s contract from you, you’re gonna have to add something else as well

Yeah, we're not gonna give you three picks for one guy, sorry. Any interest in prospects?

Mar. 20, 2018 at 1:06 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

Once again though, Burrows is a decent 4th line RW. This makes me more interested but still not too interested ... what picks are you looking for? We might give you a later pick but that's about it.

Allow me to explain. I didn’t want to do this, but I’m just trying to help you understand why Clutterbuck is much more valuable than Burrows or Mitchell. I’ll do that by comparing the three players. I will bold the player who wins each category.

Goals:
Clutterbuck: 8
Burrows: 5
Mitchell: 3

Assists:
Clutterbuck: 9
Burrows: 7
Mitchell: 2

Points:
Clutterbuck: 17
Burrows: 12
Mitchell: 5

Time On Ice:
Clutterbuck: 12:42
Burrows: 11:47
Mitchell: 10:36

Hits:
Clutterbuck: 215 (5th in the league!)
Burrows: 56
Mitchell: 25

Blocked Shots:
Clutterbuck: 47
Burrows: 21
Mitchell: 11

Then there’s also the simple fact that Clutterbuck brings lots of leadership, which you’ve said many times may be even more important than stats. As far as I’m concerned, Burrows has been suspended for ten games this year in addition to being waived - Im not sure how such a player can be a leader.

Clutterbuck gives you the leadership, physical prescence you need on your third line. He can score. He can chip in defensively. And heck he can hit. I’m sure he’s worth more than a late round pick, especially if we are taking MacArthur’s contract back as well.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 1:18 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

Yeah, we're not gonna give you three picks for one guy, sorry. Any interest in prospects?

RAIF, I’m done. You make me an offer and go from there. I’m not playing this guessing game as to what you are willing to give up, which is nothing basically

Mar. 20, 2018 at 5:49 p.m.

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Quoting: krakowitz

RAIF, I’m done. You make me an offer and go from there. I’m not playing this guessing game as to what you are willing to give up, which is nothing basically

Not too interested in Lehner unless the price isn't too high ... maybe something like Chlapik+?

Mar. 20, 2018 at 5:50 p.m.

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Quoting: DavidBooth7

Yeah, no, not saying Burrows is better, i'm just saying that he's an okay 4th liner ... Clutterbuck is a good player but still a 4th liner. He's a good 4th liner and Burrows is an average 4th liner ... if we can get a 3rd line RW that would be great. If you're taking MacArthur's contract we might give you a later pick or a prospect for him but that's about it.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 6:02 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

I don’t think we have a deal to be made here then. Thanks for replying

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Mar. 20, 2018 at 6:57 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

Not too interested in Lehner unless the price isn't too high ... maybe something like Chlapik+?

Make a full offer and I’ll evaluate it

Mar. 20, 2018 at 7:12 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

if we can get a 3rd line RW that would be great.

What about Ryan Strome as a 3 RW/C. Bonus is he can also play center.
He's far superior to either of the guys you have on lines 3 or 4 right now.

Think about it and get back to me.
Chances are I already know the answer, but have to ask anyway

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Mar. 20, 2018 at 8:18 p.m.

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Quoting: krakowitz

Make a full offer and I’ll evaluate it

I'll talk to my AGM.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 8:19 p.m.

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Quoting: flamesfan419

What do you want for him?

Mar. 20, 2018 at 9:23 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

What do you want for him?

On April 1st I could let you have him for....

2018 4th + 2019 2nd

Simple and cheap.

Mar. 20, 2018 at 10:57 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

I'll talk to my AGM.

Get back to me ASAP

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Mar. 21, 2018 at 3:39 a.m.

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Quoting: flamesfan419

So rumor has it that you feel Craig Anderson is getting "old".

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3. Also have Reimer as a cheaper option. 2019 2nd & 3rd

Another rough night for Anderson (pulled....again) and Condon.

You sure you don't want to reconsider upgrading yourself in net??

Reimer has 18 WINS this year, and Condon has what, 5.

Mar. 21, 2018 at 10:17 a.m.

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Another rough night for Anderson (pulled....again) and Condon.

You sure you don't want to reconsider upgrading yourself in net??

Reimer has 18 WINS this year, and Condon has what, 5.

We have Forsberg now, and we don't plan on waiving and losing him.

Quoting: flamesfan419

On April 1st I could let you have him for....

2018 4th + 2019 2nd

Simple and cheap.

Maybe, i'll talk to my AGM.

Mar. 21, 2018 at 12:34 p.m.

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Hey man, this is your team. If you want to make an offer on a guy, just make the offer. You’re allowed to negotiate on your own bud

Mar. 21, 2018 at 12:38 p.m.

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Quoting: krakowitz

Hey man, this is your team. If you want to make an offer on a guy, just make the offer. You’re allowed to negotiate on your own bud

I know, but on some things i want to hear what my AGM has to say, because otherwise, what's the point of an AGM?

Mar. 21, 2018 at 1:15 p.m.

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan

We have Forsberg now, and we don't plan on waiving and losing him.

And yet you're considering making an offer to get Lehner.

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Maybe, i'll talk to my AGM.

@HoffmanisKing @rangersandislesfan

Given your comments in your communication thread, you don't think you need Strome.

I also can't figure out why you'd need him either.
He is.....12 yrs younger than Burrows, that's 1/3 his age
He has....more goals than Burrows has points
He can....play either RW or C which gives you more options on where to use him.

If you can't see this or frankly ANY of the offers that have been made to you as a chance to upgrade you team in certain areas, then you clearly don't want to improve your team no matter what the offer.

Don't forget, I offered you Martin Jones a few days ago and you didn't like it. Yet again last night your 2 goalies were awful again.
It's not like I targeted your best players in return. I never said I wanted Stone, Hoffman, Turris, Karlsson, and you still didn't like the idea.

This is going to be hard for me because there are players on your team I'd like to work with you and try to make deals, but it's finally become clear to me that you have ZERO intention of wanting to make any deals or improvements to your team.
So for those reasons this will be my final offer, and you won't hear from Anaheim again.

Mar. 21, 2018 at 1:20 p.m.

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