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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 4, 2017 at 4:14 p.m.
Thread: Preying on Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xanderK</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyNM1510</b></div><div>Your not getting Silfverberg he is UNTOUCHABLE. The Devils are just trading some random players. Not even close lol.</div></div>

You might want to look at your Expansion List because unless something changes, he is very much available.</div></div>

No he's still untouchable. Worst case scenario is they don't trade anyone from the defense before the list is due (which I highly doubt), they still protect the 7 forwards and let someone on the defense go. They can pretty easily replace the back end. The same can't be said for the forwards, and if you look just a little deeper than the Expansion List you'd see he's very much not available.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2, 2017 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread: Drouin Rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>scarbrow21</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kiekenapp</b></div><div>

As i would normally agree with both of you I am going to disagree. The only reason why is Fowler is going to receive a large pay raise in 1 year. Tampa can't afford another top tier contract. This is the reasoning they would most likely elect to take on Vatanen over Fowler.</div></div>

Sorry to disagree with you but as a non-biased fan, Vatanen is not getting you Drouin. You're trading him because he's expendable and because ANH is already going to have expansion draft issues and every team knows this. More realistic deals are Josh Manson+2nd or Theodore/Montour+1st (keeping in mind that 1st is anywhere from 23 -31)</div></div>

Manson+2nd is a step backwards from Vatanen, so if Vatanen plus whatever isn't enough I have a hard time seeing how Manson and a 2nd is a step up
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30, 2017 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread: Kovy ****( Please Read the Description to understand the moves I have made. You
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilersFanGM</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brian_gull</b></div><div>

I agree they come at a premium but theres is the expansion draft (!!) this year and that changes a whole lot. Would you rather lose Vatanen for nothing or something. Im also curious as to what type of return you are expecting. Why ask for prospects when you can just draft your own with the picks you acquired. Plus, I really don't think any team is going to give up a first round pick for a guy that is titled "offensive" defensemen and posted his worst stats of his career in 2017...To go along with that, the team has too many defensemen to protect and other GM's know that. They are going to play Anaheim out and wait for them to accept something smaller because in the end, something is better than nothing.</div></div>

The expansion draft may low his value and ANA may fill the need to move him before the draft, but 28 other teams are willing to give more then that get get him.
So Jersey will need to give ANA more to get him.</div></div>

Bob Murray is nothing if not stubborn and will wait until the last second. I personally believe that one of the other GMs will blink before Murray would need to get something done. And as for the fact 2017 was his worst season to date his production wasn't too far off from what he did the year before when he signed his deal, and spent a good chunk of this year hurt or was playing hurt.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 21, 2017 at 11:34 p.m.
Thread: Guess which player were taking from Buff
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>

Yeah but if everyone knows that they have to expose a strong defender, the trade value goes way down. Look at the Philadelphia 76ers and their center debacle two years ago. Three talented centers that they could get a lot for if they were a different team, they just couldn't get it done</div></div>

But the 76ers are also a poorly run organization.</div></div>

I don't believe the correlation between the two is appropriate in this case. It doesn't matter how poorly run they are the 76ers didn't <em>have to</em> trade one of those centers, while ANA <em>does</em>. This is a game of chicken that the ducks can't win because when time runs out the other 30 teams aren't hurt if nothing happens, the ducks do. The ducks have almost zero leverage, and leverage is everything.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 21, 2017 at 11:25 p.m.
Thread: The worst case scenario
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jccamps18</b></div><div>For some reason I was thinking about this today, I think Vatanen still has more trade value with a different team, but he would be far and away the best player available for Vegas if left unprotected, so maybe Ducks could make a deal with Vegas where they'll leave Vatanen unprotected if they take on the Despres and/or Stoner contracts</div></div>

The problem with that is that the asking price to do something like that would be astronomical. I think that the asking price to not take him would be more painful to swallow then getting less in trading Vatanen, or whoever they would leave exposed. So I think Murray will accept the best offer, even if it is less than he wanted, because that is an easier sell then just letting him go.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 3:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade with Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Idris</b></div><div>Guys, you do realize that the ducks are in the worst place in the league because of the expansion right? They have 5d and 5f that need to be protected, they need to get rid of at least 2 good players. Manson will not be a duck after the expansion and they are going to accept either fair value or an underpayment</div></div>

I'm assuming the 5d you're talking about is Lindholm, Vatanen, Bieksa, Manson, and Fowler. It's already reported that Bieksa said he'd wave his NMC for the draft, so they only need to trade one. And I've always been of the position that they want to trade Vatanen because he'd get the best value, whatever that is. They are too high on Manson to accept less than an overpayment and they're kinda low on Vatanen so that's who I think will be gone
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 1:46 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade with Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARIK7700</b></div><div>

I've seen other people offer Dermott as part of deals for other ducks Dmen, but I don't think they would be greatly interested. They already have 3 young, good LHD in Lindholm, Theordore, and Larsson (assuming they lose Fowler). And I'm not sure really what kind of player Hyman is. From what I've heard people want him off Matthews' line because they think Matthews is propping him up. So I personally think this is a step backwards from the first proposition.</div></div>

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large sum of money that we'll see a Fowler extension this summer. He's already said that he wants to stay (It's SoCal...who wouldn't want to stay?). If not, it'll be interesting to see how long they hold onto him.</div></div>

If they don't think a deal could get done then there is a good chance he's the guy they trade before the expansion draft. I think they want to keep him and prefer to trade Vatanen, but it's all so far up in the air it is hard to tell.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 1:43 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade with Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARIK7700</b></div><div>

I've seen other people offer Dermott as part of deals for other ducks Dmen, but I don't think they would be greatly interested. They already have 3 young, good LHD in Lindholm, Theordore, and Larsson (assuming they lose Fowler). And I'm not sure really what kind of player Hyman is. From what I've heard people want him off Matthews' line because they think Matthews is propping him up. So I personally think this is a step backwards from the first proposition.</div></div>

I'd be willing to bet a fairly large sum of money that we'll see a Fowler extension this summer. He's already said that he wants to stay (It's SoCal...who wouldn't want to stay?). If not, it'll be interesting to see how long they hold onto him.</div></div>

I've heard that, so it just reaffirms the position that the ducks wouldn't want another Dman in a trade
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade with Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>orignalsix</b></div><div>Leipsic and Johnson are questionable NHLers. Ducks would like NHLers or near ready NHLers who are protection exempt. Leafs apparently have "excess" forwards and LHD prospects. Ducks will be getting offers for their fourth Dman.
Hyman and Dermott and second rounder for Manson.</div></div>

I've seen other people offer Dermott as part of deals for other ducks Dmen, but I don't think they would be greatly interested. They already have 3 young, good LHD in Lindholm, Theordore, and Larsson (assuming they lose Fowler). And I'm not sure really what kind of player Hyman is. From what I've heard people want him off Matthews' line because they think Matthews is propping him up. So I personally think this is a step backwards from the first proposition.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17, 2017 at 1:02 p.m.
Thread: Leafs trade with Anaheim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BadgerMustache</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARIK7700</b></div><div>The Ducks probably don't want defense as a return in their trades. Dermott from what I understand is a pretty good prospect, but ANA already has enough of those, so the return would have to have a forward be the centerpiece of a return. Also the Ducks are really high on Manson, so you would probably have to pay over value for him.</div></div>

Good to know. Do you think Kapanen + a 2017 1st-rounder would be the asking price? I'd hate to give up on Kasperi so soon.</div></div>

It is a good start. A question that needs to be answered is how does Bob Murray view the 2017 draft. I think he'd want more if the pick is from 2017. Murray never doesn't pick in the 1st round, and he traded away our first for a rental in Eaves. Which tells me how much he thinks of this draft, so he probably would want more.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 14, 2017 at 3:01 a.m.
Thread: comment
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ARIK7700</b></div><div>

Let's put aside the fact that it's $4.2 million. My greater problem with the trade is that it's only for one year. If we run with the assumption that the line would be as good as some believe it would be, then we would have to shell out a hell of a lot of money (in an offseason when we'll have at least 5 RFAs who will need raises) to keep him for any extended period of time.</div></div>

Vermettes underlying numbers are terrible. Bozak is a huge upgrade over him. And yes fair analysis. But what if leafs sign him to a cap friendly deal and then trade him to the ducks? It's all hypothetical of course but I'm just trying to illustrate fair value</div></div>

Let's say that a team friendly deal is made, in 2018-19 there's a good chance he becomes the 4th line center if Sam Steel has the progression he had this year (which I believe he will). So then the question becomes is trading Manson for one year of an above average 3rd line and then a 4th line center worth it. I'm not sure that's a deal I'm comfortable with if I can stop gap the 3rd line with an average center for a year.