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Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago
Thread: Calgary starting their rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bast</b></div><div>Actually no, <strong>FLA is already giving the Flames their 25' pick</strong>. Since FLA had the 24' pick lottery protected from another trade(Tarasenko maybe?).

MTL gets the better of the 2 x 25' picks CGY has, unless CGY's pick is in the top 10(most likely scenario), in which case they get the FLA pick.</div></div>

That hasn't been decided yet. It's the condition from the Tkachuk trade, and its dependent on if FLA make the playoffs next season. If FLA miss the playoffs, they keep their 2025 1st and give CGY their 2026 1st.


EDIT: I said this in another thread yesterday, but if you're a Habs fans just wanting to know what to cheer for with all the confusing conditions of the Monahan trade, do this:

#1 - Cheer for both CGY and FLA to have terrible seasons and miss the playoffs, and hope CGY doesn't get 1st overall. MTL probably ends up with a top 5-10 pick here.
#2 - If FLA are playing well, cheer for CGY to finish with the 11th overall pick after the 2025 draft lottery.


and if you're a CGY fan, cheer for the opposite lol
Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago
Thread: Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Florida is likely good next year and as you said CGY is likely bottom 10. That would mean the Flames picks belongs to Calgary and Montreal gets Florida's pick</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingMurray</b></div><div>So, let it play out and see where it goes?</div></div>

Also, of all the most likely scenarios (With FLA making the playoffs next year, thus transferring their 2025 1st to CGY), MTL could still get <strong>the better</strong> of CGYs and FLAs 1st rd picks <strong>if the Flames don't have a top 10 pick</strong> LOL Which means MTL could get, at best, an 11th overall pick from CGY.


So, if you're a Habs fans just wanting to know what to cheer for with all the confusing conditions of the Monahan trade, do this:

#1 - Cheer for both CGY and FLA to have terrible seasons and miss the playoffs, and hope CGY doesn't get 1st overall. MTL probably ends up with a top 5-10 pick here.
#2 - If FLA are playing well, cheer for CGY to finish with the 11th overall pick after the 2025 draft lottery.


All this to say, Habs really shouldn't be trading the pick lol
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:12 p.m.
Thread: If Utah is a buyer this offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I don't think an offensive defenseman going into his 30s is worth more than a physical two way forward entering his prime. I get Matheson has played quite well while in Montreal and has been a good leader and all that, but his defensive play isn't great and honestly they probably give PP1 to Durzi. Or if they really wanted to, sign Gostisbehere again to play a similar roll. Arizona has alot invested in Crouse and I don't think they want to move him at all.
Also with Barron, just because he is "NHL ready" doesn't mean they are going to trade a very good, very big, young RHD for an older lesser version.
Utah can easily sign a LHD if they want to go that route. They also have Kolyachonok who seems ready, that's 3 LHD on the roster.
It's very difficult to find players like Crouse, teams covet them alot.</div></div>

Literally every ACGM I'm seeing has teams signing freakin Brady Skjei to $6-$7mil aav deals (complete overpayment imo). The free agent market for offensive LD is incredibly weak this year. Which will most certainly lead to teams overpaying for Gostisbehere as well. If MTL make Matheson, with his $4.8mil aav, available for trade, there will absolutely be a highly competitive market for him. I have no idea where the whole "Matheson has defensive issues" thing came from, but it's false. Matheson literally was top 5 in assignment difficulty this year, and MTL defensive struggles were definitely not due to Matheson. Is he a shut down Dman? no, granted. But he's certainly not a bad defender.

You make a fair point for Crouse, and I said as much in my description. Crouse if available would be highly sought after if made available as well. But Matheson is still a much more valuable asset for what both provide at the salaries they make. Paying $4.3mil aav for Crouse I'd say is market value or at most a slight overpayment. Matheson at $4.8mil aav is a bargain.

Lamoureux hasn't proven any more than what Barron did at the same levels... Is he bigger and younger? yes. but to say Barron is a lesser version is false. If anything, there should be injury concerns from Lamoureux. The difference in value is simply due to age and waiver exemption.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:25 p.m.
Thread: If Utah is a buyer this offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>i dont think bill armstrong is in any rush to trade lamoureux</div></div>

True, I'm just going off the assumption that the owner in Utah will want to speed up the process to be competitive. Barron and Lamoureux are actually fairly similar prospects (both former 1sts, both played for Canada at the WJ), but Barron is older and more NHL ready. The big difference is Lamoureux is waiver exempt, Barron isn't. But the difference in value between Crouse and Matheson more than makes up for it imo.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>Matheson isn't worth that.</div></div>

The only reach is the early 2nd rd pick. Matheson is way more valuable than Crouse. Tried to make up the difference with swapping Barron with Lamoureux and adding a pick. If anything, the pick should be downgraded or removed.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:57 a.m.
Thread: Habs should at least consider trading Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Truthfully, they'd be better off going for Marco Rossi whom has a connection to DR. He's already in the trade rumours according to Michael Russo, beat reporter of the Wild, and said it's a high chance that Marco gets moved for more scoring/size.
Marco would be a cheaper price and would fit a need in the center of the ice instead of relying on Dach's health and Beck to make the immediate jump. The Wild need scoring so one of Mesar/Farrell could easily be included with a Dvorak so this would fit the same model as the Newhook trade as the Habs get their promise and the other team Avs/Wild have the more established player Ross Colton/Dvorak</div></div>

Rossi is definitely a prime candidate to be the next Dach/Newhook trade of this offseason. But for sure another Center or two would have to move out of MTL to do it (Dvorak probably being #1 on the list, but I think there will be a better market for someone like Evans. And Habs might want to keep some Left-handed Centers around like Dvorak, with Suzuki, Dach, even Beck all being righty's, although Rossi is a lefty...)

Not sure how much Rossi would cost... I hope it's not similar to Newhook, although I'm very happy with Newhook, looking back, a late 1st and early 2nd still feels rich.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:47 a.m.
Thread: Habs should at least consider trading Guhle
If Guhle could get someone like Boldy, then sure I'd be ok trading him. I just don't see it happening. Boldy is (or at least should be) one of MINs untouchables. Conversely, I'd say Guhle should be as close to untouchable for the Habs too... MTL has a plethora of LD sure, but Guhle is far and away MTLs best two-way player they have at that position. He's for sure their best skater (even more than Matheson), has a physical edge (where Guhle even admitted is going to be his off season focus to bulk up without losing any of his speed...), and is their most defensively reliable LD.
Comparisons are never 1 to 1, but Habs essentially have a younger version of Jacob Slavin with Guhle. Contending teams keep those players around, they don't trade them.

It's become a controversial topic among Habs fans (and it's a pretty even split), but if Habs move a Dman, it really should be Matheson... for a lot of the same reasons given here for moving Guhle.
On top of that, Matheson's value is at his highest right now, not just from his play this season, but from the fact that this offseason, the LD free agent market is very thin. Apart from maybe Skjei and Gostisbehere (I'd argue Matheson is better than both), there's really not much for offensive dman on the market. Not only that, but it also looks like there will be a new buyer on the market...Utah. and a vet LD would be exactly what they'd be looking for. Matheson probably doesn't get the same value as Guhle, but if Hughes can trade Matheson to Utah for a forward (my eyes would be on Lawson Crouse, who's 3 1/2 years younger than Matheson, and a pick/prospect added to him, I'd target Maveric Lamoureux). I'd prefer that over moving Guhle.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 3:42 p.m.
Thread: It will come between Lindstrom or Catton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I think based on 6th OV finish and Habs management and drafting history, its going to be Iginla and its not even going to be close to being Catton unless they trade down to 10-14.

Lindstrom/Demidov if they're available are the top realistic options but doubt they will be. If neither are available at 6 and Iginla too which I doubt, It'll be a dman. Seems like Parehk or Yakemchuk being the likely candidates.

I still think its Iginla though when it's all said and done.</div></div>

See my other replies in this thread about Iginla, I have concerns. I could be totally wrong, but I think the concerns are valid.

Listening to the end of season press conference from Hughes and Gorton, the priority will definitely be on selecting a forward. But I guess you can never rule out picking another dman.

I think your expectations of where Catton drops is wrong. If some teams buy into the Cooley comparisons, he's long gone by 10th overall.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 3:34 p.m.
Thread: It will come between Lindstrom or Catton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>I've scouted Lindstrom, Catton, Iggy, and although I'm not necessarily putting Iggy as the best of the 3, he is definitely in the same tier. I think the hype is pretty deserved. Using the rankings of the past isn't really valid imo: Kiviharju was supposed to be the 1st OA pick, but now he is probably not a 1st round guy. Slaf was a late 1st, and became the rightful 1st OA pick. Cameron Allen was projected as the best D in the 2023 draft but fell to the 5th round.</div></div>

Also, players dropping in the draft is pretty common, it's players that climb in the draft that needs to be looked at. Slaf is a good example, Kotkaniemi is another, in both cases they were still considered 1st rd talent. It's almost unheard of that a player is barely making the 3rd rd one year, and is then considered a top 5 pick the next. Hence, my apprehension. Add the whole "his last name is Iginla" hype, and alarms are starting to go off.
Could very much be an extremely high risk, high reward pick. But when you have guys like Lindstrom and Catton posibily available, it's kind of hard to justify <strong>that much</strong> risk taking with Iginla.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 3:26 p.m.
Thread: It will come between Lindstrom or Catton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jobob77</b></div><div>One of Celebrini, Helenius or Demidov should be available when MTL draft. If they are all gone I guess I would go for Catton then Lindstrom.

They didn’t pick Michkov because of his attitude. He fought his teamate or ex-teamate twice (Miroshnichenko and Remezovsky). He kicked a teamates in the locker room because he was in his way. He’s getting loaned from SKA even if he is one of the best scorer in the KHL. There are a lot of off ice red flags.

I prefer Demidov as a prospect and as a human being.</div></div>

Nah, that's just a bunch of rumors. And if they were true, PHI probably wouldn't have picked him either.

Reason they didn't pick Michkov, imo, is because they didn't have access to him, to scout him in person, and to be able to develop him with their own staff, until his contract is up in a few years. Development seems to really be a focus with MTL. Even with Reinbacher, they had full control on if they wanted to send him to Kloten or keep him in Laval. And even in Switzerland, they were sending their own guys to work with him throughout the year (Ramage, Bouillon, etc.). Same will apply with Demidov, they have zero access to the player, until he would sign and come over.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 2:40 p.m.
Thread: It will come between Lindstrom or Catton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>I've scouted Lindstrom, Catton, Iggy, and although I'm not necessarily putting Iggy as the best of the 3, he is definitely in the same tier. I think the hype is pretty deserved. Using the rankings of the past isn't really valid imo: Kiviharju was supposed to be the 1st OA pick, but now he is probably not a 1st round guy. Slaf was a late 1st, and became the rightful 1st OA pick. Cameron Allen was projected as the best D in the 2023 draft but fell to the 5th round.</div></div>

True, and admittedly I've only watched the scouting videos of Iginla on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWoc6PkCI7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOw24rIvlLo&amp;t=324s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUz2rMEA4tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU3x9BCj7CQ

From what I see, nothing (apart from his compete level and wrist shot) screams "elite" to me. And you can't deny, especially recently, that too many articles are hyping him up due to his last name. It definitely has me second guessing, which I don't have for Catton or Lindstrom.
I could totally be wrong though!
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread: It will come between Lindstrom or Catton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>I think it's gonna be Iginla. He looks like exactly what we need honestly</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>darz</b></div><div>1. Celebrini
2. Lindstrom
3. Levshunov
4. Iginla
5. Demidov
6. Parekh
7. Catton

honestly I'll be happy with whichever one we get</div></div>

Really not buying into the hype for Tij Iginla. Especially if we are comparing him to Lindstrom. He had a fantastic playoff run, no doubt. but this is a guy that was barely getting ranked in the 3rd round last year (Elite prospects had him 87th less than 12 months ago)... And I believe a lot of hype is getting added due to his last name... There are always late risers in draft rankings, but never to this extent. If there was ever an overrated prospect in this years draft, it's Iginla.
Lindstrom has been falling in the draft rankings, but it's mainly due to him being injured, and scouts being sour that he turned down going to the U18s...
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 2:07 p.m.
Thread: My best Guess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yes anyone who doesn't agree with Montreal fans and their obviously biased evaluation of their players is a Habs hater. Just keep the blinders on instead of actually trying to make a rebuttal based on factual information instead of emotion.</div></div>

Ah yes, I use examples such as the Monahan trade of you being a hater, and brought up Sakic's comments regarding your stance that both COL and MTL gave up on Barron, but sure let's go with anyone who disagrees with you must only be doing it from an emotional perspective...

Or it could just be that, every single Habs post that you engage with, you've disagreed and degraded Habs players and the Habs fans commenting on it.
Just own up to it, you're a hater, nothing wrong with that. It adds to the fun on here.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread: My best Guess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>If he had top 4 potential, he might be of interest. He obviously doesn't as this is the 2nd team to give up on him and Barron can't crack the top 4 of an awful team.

Bottom pairing defenseman are plentiful, easy to find and never require a high second in return.</div></div>

Dude just stop, we get it. You're a Hab hater. The PLD shenanigans on here from Hab fans must have bothered you on some personal level or something. You kept calling Monahan a "4th line center on the Jets" for months, then got eerily quiet once WPG gave MTL their 1st rd pick for him, which looks to be a bargain at this point.

Barron most certainly has top 4 written all over him. He already has that skill offensively, and just needs to continue improving on his defensive game. Saying both COL and MTL gave up on him is just wrong, even Sakic said he didn't want to trade Barron when he acquired Lehkonen and continued by saying (I'm paraphrasing) you have to give quality to get quality. Habs simply have better prospects with higher all-around potential that makes Barron expendable.
As for this trade, MTL would be the ones refusing, they have too many bottom 6 forwards already, adding Kupari does nothing for them, and although MTLs 2nd is a nice asset, MTL have zero need to be adding more draft picks, unless they plan to flip it. but at that point, MTL could just use Barron to include in a package deal for what they are looking for.