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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 13 at 8:52 a.m.
Thread:
Keeping Palat
why would guentzel even consider that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 12 at 8:43 a.m.
Thread:
oilers next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>TB passes rather easily.</div></div>
what if I change the 2nd to a 4th
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mar. 12 at 8:42 a.m.
Thread:
oilers next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>Don't see any reason for the blues to do this</div></div>
it could be any team I just used them
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Mar. 7 at 10:21 a.m.
Thread:
Karlsson Returns
take out the goalie swap and its a deal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 22 at 8:34 a.m.
Thread:
sick of losing screw the future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>Hot take, the Pens should trade Crosby as the opening move to their rebuild.</div></div>
I mean it would make sense where he still has excellent trade value but I do not think you will ever see Crosby out of Pittsburgh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 22 at 8:26 a.m.
Thread:
sick of losing screw the future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahRighttt</b></div><div>Hawks say no thanks on Carter. A 4th for 5th swap is not enough to take him on.</div></div>
how about a 4th and 7th swap
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 22 at 8:26 a.m.
Thread:
sick of losing screw the future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JacketsComrade</b></div><div>ngl u cooked, idec if it is realistic or not, u put together a 12 trade acgm and im proud of u</div></div>
Thank you. just sick of this team man. they should not be losing
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 22 at 8:15 a.m.
Thread:
sick of losing screw the future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Bruh.</div></div>
let me have dreams im just tired of under performing
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 20 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
devils
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>I want to point out to everyone...this is a PENGUINS fan...not a Devils fan pushing this.</div></div>
i just like seeing how upset people get, im just messin with ya
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 19 at 12:24 p.m.
Thread:
stars
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>That ferraro deal is a joke.
Undercover PIT fan trying to get more for Guentzel than he's worth</div></div>
that is a pretty even trade for guentzel
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 19 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread:
Canes get a top 9 forward with some term
joseph is for sure a good trade target but i think the price would be two 2nds and maybe another late pick like a sixth
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8 at 9:18 a.m.
Thread:
Jenner - What will it take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>I'm assuming this discussion pops up again because of Dreger's report, where he <em>explicitly stated</em> Jenner isn't available. Welcome to the never-ending discussion.
The long: he's a captain on a sweetheart deal with term who's producing well with a unique, valuable skillset. The keys to his value are:
1) he's a decent 2C, great 3C, which every playoff team needs
2) He's on an amazing deal that every playoff team could accommodate
3) His great deal has term, so he's not a rental, which every playoff team with aspirations of competing beyond just this year loves.
4) His current team signed him to said sweetheart deal specifically to keep him around, and has no desire to move him.
Each of those bump his value up since you have to convince Columbus to move him, then beat out every other contender's offer. It's not like he's a depressed asset we have to move that only has a handful of landing spots. The argument is never "Jenner is one of the best centers in the league, pay us for him!", it's "Jenner has a huge market and fills a need for tons of teams, and that spikes his value regardless of his (still good) production, that's what you're overpaying for."
He's a Horvat style player who wins faceoffs like Lindholm and scores goals like Pavelski, but you can have him for this year and the next two at current Evan Bouchard money if you make a good enough offer to convince Columbus it's worth moving their unicorn.
You'll see people argue anything ranging from "expiring 3C UFA with 15 points" offers to "star 1C for the rest of time" demands. I think in reality, the Horvat deal + ??? is a decent comp: 1st, roster player/pick, good prospect. If Columbus deals him, we need a legitimate shot at replacing him soon coming back, so center prospects are preferred. Because of the deal, roster player/pick -> 2nd-equivalent, and good prospect -> top prospect.
So, IMO, it takes: 1st, 2nd, A+/top prospect to land him.
For Pittsburgh specifically, I don't think there's an A+ prospect in the organization, and we <em>definitely </em>don't want to see him in Pittsburgh ever (main rival in-division), so the price goes up more...so 2024 2nd, 2025 1st, and 2026 1st, all unprotected.</div></div>
Oh lord where to start, for one the pens and blue jackets have never really had any rivalry because the blue jackets have not ever been consistently in the playoffs or really even played them in the playoffs. you are not getting a high first maybe if he was traded to someone like the Avs you could get a 1st and 4th because their 1st is not worth as much. you are not getting any great A+ prospects. for sure not getting 2 firsts. Jenner is a good player on a good contract but you are going overboard. There are better players that you would get for the package. I'd say the package the pens would have to give for him is 2 second rounders a fifth rounder and maybe like alex nylander.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8 at 9:08 a.m.
Thread:
Does This Make Sense
wow this trade is brutal Sens would want a much better package and graves would not be included
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8 at 9:06 a.m.
Thread:
Calm Down
Love guentzel and he is an amazing player but you gotta look at the stats. Reinhart is on pace for an insane season
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 5 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread:
CBC316
Pens pass
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 5 at 10:00 a.m.
Thread:
preds
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>I mean he loves stl. He came back, has a house here and we like him here. It's more likely we sign him to a cheap extension so he can be a vet in our bottom 6 than trade him.</div></div>
That is very possible too
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 5 at 9:58 a.m.
Thread:
preds
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>herzausstein</b></div><div>So you are going to give up multiple 1st round prospects, a 1st round picks, and multiple other picks, and go all in with you 2C being Colton sissons whose single season high production is 30 points? Seems like a fools errand to me</div></div>
Sissons play this year has been very good and he is on pace for 40 points so if the lines are shaken up his production could increase even more, I think it would work out fine.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 5 at 9:55 a.m.
Thread:
preds
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>Think the blues would rather just stick with their guy</div></div>
You could be right but I doubt it. his contract is ending and he is almost 30, plus they are a rebuilding team so I doubt he is in the plan
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Jan. 15 at 10:02 a.m.
Thread:
dont think jake will be moved but if he does this is the best move
guentzle is better in the playoffs and is just a much better player, i just think you would need to get this kind of return for jake
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