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Armchair-GM
Mar. 1, 2017 at 9:01 p.m.
Thread:
Exploring Fleury Buyout + Expansion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>Sprong isn't going from the QMJHL to top 6 NHL time especially after his injury.</div></div>
why not? whats a better spot than next to malkin or crosby? Hes a scoring wing and hes clearly out grown the q. hes got all summer to fully recover from the injury
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2017 at 9:22 p.m.
Thread:
Third year continuation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>claysbar</b></div><div>I'm a Pens fan and you are high with the contracts you are giving.</div></div>
Such as?
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2017 at 9:20 p.m.
Thread:
as Steve Dangle would say, "WEEEEEEEEEEEE"
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>No way in hell you get Duchene for 2 defensive bust prospects, a 3rd liner, and a late 1st round pick, let along getting salary retained.
Niemi is similar to Fleury, you aren't getting him WITH a pick and salary retained. PIT would have to throw in the pick to do that.
ARI deal might be possible, but again, would have to probably give up a 2nd or another late pick to get salary retained.</div></div>
Fleury is superior to niemi, despite his poor year that's not a question. According to reports that's basically what the avs are asking for, maybe pouliot hasn't progressed optimally but he isn't a bust yet. Michalek isn't even in the NHL on a horrible Arizona team. I thought a third was being generous, a second would just be stupid. Arizona is more than happy to get even half his salary of the books
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2017 at 5:33 p.m.
Thread:
trade puljuarvi
OEL is a top 5-10 dman in the league and with the price on dmen this seems like not nearly enough. Maybe add a 1st or two im not sure.
More importantly, why are you giving up on pulj? Sure he hasnt been everything you would want so far but hes a teenager and has room to grow. I think seeing what Laine and Matthews are doing may make pulj look worse than he is, but he shouldnt be compared to them. they are a rarity.
btw, Hanzal on EDM makes them look scary in that pacific division. three solid lines.
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Armchair-GM
Jan. 16, 2017 at 3:25 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic Pens
flower isnt worth half of that. goalies have always had a hard time getting could value as they are so hard to compare to skaters. plus the goalie market is saturated and the impliactions of the expansion draft make goalies even less valuable. Id say they should be very happy if they get a second and a backup for flower.
From the Jets pov, I dont see why they would acquire an aging veteran goalie. yes their goaltending has been poor, but the entire team has been. They are young and in no position to win, especially this season.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2016 at 10:01 p.m.
Thread:
deadline moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div><i>Enstrom has to know he isn't going to be claimed. For the good of the team he should waive his NMC and the Jets can protect either another Dman or two forwards.</i></div></div>
enstrom isnt worth what hes paid but most nights hes the second best dman on the ice. a lot of people knock him on his size sometimes and that massive stick but more often than not he is solid and doing some good things. the jets would be crippled on the left side without him. and why should he waive his no move?? I think its crazy talk thinking about asking for him to waive it. I dont see how in any event that enstrom isnt a jet next year.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 6, 2016 at 3:54 p.m.
Thread:
Fleury to Calgary for Elliott + who else?
Im not sure it would make sense for calgary to do that at the deadline. I expect them to be out of it by then. even now its questionable given how poorly flower has played and how well johnson has filled in for elliott while he struggles. lets say they are in it at the deadline, I think they would only have to add a third or fourth and maybe a depth guy. Fleury doesnt have much value given his poor play, saturation in the goalie market, and the situation the pens are in with their goaltending. Expansion aside, they have 2 quality goalies and will be paying them 9+ million next year. Flower would be on his way out without expansion, expansion is just going to expedite the process and lower his value.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 24, 2016 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread:
Fleury to Big D?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>npalley98</b></div><div><i>I think pens say no. Faska is someone who we have a million of in the minors. Nameth is a good peice but no where near enough for fluery. The 2nd is usless sense dallas with a goalie will most certainly make the playoffs and the pick will basically be a third. Plus we take on lehtonen's contract which does us no good. Obviously lehtonen or niemi would have to be included but pens will want more if you are including him.</i></div></div>
I think you are under valuing faksa. I could see him as replacing bonino if he isnt resigned. Yes that pick could be a late second but look at some of the pens seconds and thirds. Guentzel, sprong, if you want to go back to letang you can. what im saying is second and thirds arent nothing, its another asset and another lottery ticket on an nhler. draft picks are more valuable than ever. With how saturated the goalie market is and the implications of the expansion draft, I would be very pleased with a return like this.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 17, 2016 at 5:26 p.m.
Thread:
Trades
definetely not a realistic gm
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 4:59 p.m.
Thread:
Healthy and Happy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueNorth</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CL8771</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuniorGM</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CL8771</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuniorGM</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueNorth</b></div><div><i>I'd rather have Chariot on the ice than Stuart.</i></div></div>
Numbers from jets games say Postma, Melichoir, Stuart and then Chairot in that order and the gap between Stuart and Chairot is sizable.</i></div></div>
I think most people recognize he is bad, but all of those guys are bad and chairot is something new and younger and might still imrove. Postma is 28 and always looks scared and hesitant when on the ice, dont even mention it when he touches the puck. stu is near the end and does what he does alright. melchiori is still an ahl guy.
youre right every number you can look at says chairot is bad, but the bottom line is he still has the unknown quality to him. he did seem competent with buff last year but anyone can</i></div></div>
Chiarot is 25 turning 26 and has close to 300 professional games played. You know what he is. Postma might look scared but he has better offensive and defensive numbers. Next time people watch a jets game just take a notice how much of the game chairot spends in his own zone its a crazy amount.</i></div></div>
i agree with everyone your saying, I would be playing melchiori over him and send chairot down its almost perplexing that management is still putting him out there. I just said what I think others think</i></div></div>
Anyone think that getting Jack Johnson off Columbus (reportedly available for peanuts if you are willing to eat his contract...) makes sense then?</i></div></div>
thats a monster of a contract. Jets arent in a place to win I dont see the point
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 4:57 p.m.
Thread:
Las Vegas Expansion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs1967again</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wolford16</b></div><div><i>Whats up with reinhart being on defense?? and the Ducks are protecting Silfverberg</i></div></div>
I have heard very different opinions on Silf.</i></div></div>
its basically protect rakell or silf and Im taking the yougner centre signed long term all day.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 1:33 p.m.
Thread:
Las Vegas Expansion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs1967again</b></div><div><i>Sam Reinhart obviously a mistake?
I believe Bishop isn't part of the draft? Or is he? He will be a UFA. I would think they lose Killorn.</i></div></div>
vegas has that window to sign players about to become fa's and if signed it counts as the player selected in the draft. so everyone is apart of the draft
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 1:17 p.m.
Thread:
Las Vegas Expansion
theres seems to be some issues with the crowd sourcing. It may be because its to meet exposure requirements but we can bet that situations will change and allow for players like brodie and barrie to be protected. 0% chance players of that calibre are available.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread:
Healthy and Happy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuniorGM</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CL8771</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuniorGM</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueNorth</b></div><div><i>I'd rather have Chariot on the ice than Stuart.</i></div></div>
Numbers from jets games say Postma, Melichoir, Stuart and then Chairot in that order and the gap between Stuart and Chairot is sizable.</i></div></div>
I think most people recognize he is bad, but all of those guys are bad and chairot is something new and younger and might still imrove. Postma is 28 and always looks scared and hesitant when on the ice, dont even mention it when he touches the puck. stu is near the end and does what he does alright. melchiori is still an ahl guy.
youre right every number you can look at says chairot is bad, but the bottom line is he still has the unknown quality to him. he did seem competent with buff last year but anyone can</i></div></div>
Chiarot is 25 turning 26 and has close to 300 professional games played. You know what he is. Postma might look scared but he has better offensive and defensive numbers. Next time people watch a jets game just take a notice how much of the game chairot spends in his own zone its a crazy amount.</i></div></div>
i agree with everyone your saying, I would be playing melchiori over him and send chairot down its almost perplexing that management is still putting him out there. I just said what I think others think
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 12:59 p.m.
Thread:
Healthy and Happy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuniorGM</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueNorth</b></div><div><i>I'd rather have Chariot on the ice than Stuart.</i></div></div>
Numbers from jets games say Postma, Melichoir, Stuart and then Chairot in that order and the gap between Stuart and Chairot is sizable.</i></div></div>
I think most people recognize he is bad, but all of those guys are bad and chairot is something new and younger and might still imrove. Postma is 28 and always looks scared and hesitant when on the ice, dont even mention it when he touches the puck. stu is near the end and does what he does alright. melchiori is still an ahl guy.
youre right every number you can look at says chairot is bad, but the bottom line is he still has the unknown quality to him. he did seem competent with buff last year but anyone can
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 10, 2016 at 12:41 p.m.
Thread:
cap wizardry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i>MTL will give you a draft pick for Killorn if you want? That way you can lose someone else less good for nothing instead. Losing Killorn for nothing bad management. Losing Brown, Paquette or Condra is perfectly fine.</i></div></div>
If its not Killorn it will probably be a decent young dman (nestorov) and I think the cap space, like letting Bishop walk is reason enough to let him walk. Thats a long deal for a middle winger and Im not a big fan of the contract, especially at the time when there was bigger fish to fry. Trading him does make some sense tho, but the exposure requirements then become more complicated and could change quite a bit. thanks tho!
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2016 at 5:28 p.m.
Thread:
whats the trade value of ovi backstrom and orlov?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFan</b></div><div><i>Is he the guy to go then? With Kuznetsov and Oshie and Burakovsky coming up is he the one going to Free Agency?</i></div></div>
I dont see how they can resign Oshie unless Johansson is traded. Even then it could be tough if Kuz has another great year. That Orpik deal looks even worse now as they are stuck with him instead of being able to resign Alzner and/or Orlov.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 27, 2016 at 5:24 p.m.
Thread:
I'm sick of the Trouba trades, but here is one.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DD67</b></div><div><i>That's interesting. I'd rather have Connor than Lemieux but I doubt WPG is giving him up. Don't the Pens risk losing Hellebuyck to Vegas just like Murray?</i></div></div>
Yes they do. But I'm thinking, it causes less goalie disruption on the Pens now and they get upgrade on defence immediately. Lemieux is the wild card...is he going to be an NHLer? Heck if Hellebuyck shows he is a #1 Pittsburg, maybe the Pens trade him for assets before the draft.
In the meantime, the Jets settle their # 1 goalie issue for few years, and if Maata regains his form even as 3/4 it's a bargain for them too. And the Jet don't have the Trouba RFA scenario over their heads, and thank goodness either does CapFriendly.</i></div></div>
I dont think the question is Lemieux an NHLer but is he a top 6 (second liner) or is he just going to be a physical 3rd/4th liner.
Jets would have take someone like fehr or cole to make the cap work. Youre still over the cap and you made the jets retain more than is allowed on both helle and lemiuex.
I am interested to see what helle could over the long run behind a competent team.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 18, 2016 at 12:30 p.m.
Thread:
Size and Gritt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div><i>Ok I was writing my response but I messed it up and it got erased. I'll just summarize. Yes the isles don't really need this trade if u look at it from the surface. They're not better than last year after losing Okposo and Neilson. Ladd is not enough. They only have about 2.5 mill in capspace. Lee is not a proven 25 goals scorer, he's done it once and last year was just he's second full season. 26, not THAT young, 3 yrs left on his 3.75 mill. Gut tells me Lehkonen just needs a bit of time to adjust and DLR is also only 21. Big boy also. I can't write him out just yet. The little they save on capspace IMO can still help them if they need to sign someone or make a trade or 2 on deadline or earlier . I really think Lehkonen can shine playing with Tavares.
Stone. 80 ppg last year playing with Turris (upgrade on Pleky offensively). Top offensive D-man Karlsson. Gallagher. 75 ppg. Stone 3.5 mill 2 years left to Gallaghers 3.75 mill 5 yrs. I can't give up on Ghetto just yet. I haven't seen him play with real top 2 centers to see chemistry.
Petry should not have a problem moving to a state with no income taxes. IMO he'll not waive his NTC to go to a better team than the Habs. Dallas is 1 to 2 pieces away from a cup. I think their D is a bigger problem than goalies. Niemi won a cup with Chicago. They know their close so there's that desperation factor that will force them to overpay.
Oleksiak 6'7 . 260lbs. LD. Still pretty young. They're thin on LD. still has room and time to improve his game. Along with Buff and Myers, that's a scary D core. Redmond was Avs best possessions player. With Trouba gone the 3rd RD spot is his . Obviously they didn't need him before cause they couldn't fit him anywhere on RD. A 1st rnd pick is a nice cherry on top even if it's a late one.
Beaulieu and Carr for Fowler: stoner and Lindholm are the only other full time nhlers on LD. Ya Theodore is there but stoner has 1 more year after this. Beaulieu is a late 1sr rounder. He's got size speed and hands. Carr was doing pretty decent before he went with an injury. In Anaheim he gets the chance to play with real centers if he was given a shot at top 6. IMO MT misused him just like he does with all young players. That's why he was playing 3rd line in MTL.
For kindl I wasn't sure for the buyout deadline. But yes I would do this deal just to buy him out. I really don't know what else I can get in return if I really hustled but I just want to create capspace. Markov highly doubtful he'll waive NTCs. It sounds cruel but as a GM I'm not here to make players happy, I'm here to make my bosses and fans happy.
<strong>Kim Jung un...really ? C mon bro. That's really offensive!! Not nice</strong></i></div></div>
Lol don't take it so seriously. It was a play on words. Your diplomacy is similar to that of Mr " Best Korea".
Anyways, thanks for the analysis but ultimately I can't agree with most of it. For the points you use to make your point, the same can be said about mine. Blah... blah.... blah.... "immovable object meets a unstoppable force" scenario so lets just agree to disagree.</i></div></div> thanks for the compliment lol. Ya it's one of these scenarios of different views, nothing new around here. Thanks for taking the time though . As for CL8771, where are your manners?</i></div></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Architect</b></div><div><i>Ok I was writing my response but I messed it up and it got erased. I'll just summarize. Yes the isles don't really need this trade if u look at it from the surface. They're not better than last year after losing Okposo and Neilson. Ladd is not enough. They only have about 2.5 mill in capspace. Lee is not a proven 25 goals scorer, he's done it once and last year was just he's second full season. 26, not THAT young, 3 yrs left on his 3.75 mill. Gut tells me Lehkonen just needs a bit of time to adjust and DLR is also only 21. Big boy also. I can't write him out just yet. The little they save on capspace IMO can still help them if they need to sign someone or make a trade or 2 on deadline or earlier . I really think Lehkonen can shine playing with Tavares.
Stone. 80 ppg last year playing with Turris (upgrade on Pleky offensively). Top offensive D-man Karlsson. Gallagher. 75 ppg. Stone 3.5 mill 2 years left to Gallaghers 3.75 mill 5 yrs. I can't give up on Ghetto just yet. I haven't seen him play with real top 2 centers to see chemistry.
Petry should not have a problem moving to a state with no income taxes. IMO he'll not waive his NTC to go to a better team than the Habs. Dallas is 1 to 2 pieces away from a cup. I think their D is a bigger problem than goalies. Niemi won a cup with Chicago. They know their close so there's that desperation factor that will force them to overpay.
Oleksiak 6'7 . 260lbs. LD. Still pretty young. They're thin on LD. still has room and time to improve his game. Along with Buff and Myers, that's a scary D core. Redmond was Avs best possessions player. With Trouba gone the 3rd RD spot is his . Obviously they didn't need him before cause they couldn't fit him anywhere on RD. A 1st rnd pick is a nice cherry on top even if it's a late one.
Beaulieu and Carr for Fowler: stoner and Lindholm are the only other full time nhlers on LD. Ya Theodore is there but stoner has 1 more year after this. Beaulieu is a late 1sr rounder. He's got size speed and hands. Carr was doing pretty decent before he went with an injury. In Anaheim he gets the chance to play with real centers if he was given a shot at top 6. IMO MT misused him just like he does with all young players. That's why he was playing 3rd line in MTL.
For kindl I wasn't sure for the buyout deadline. But yes I would do this deal just to buy him out. I really don't know what else I can get in return if I really hustled but I just want to create capspace. Markov highly doubtful he'll waive NTCs. It sounds cruel but as a GM I'm not here to make players happy, I'm here to make my bosses and fans happy.
<strong>Kim Jung un...really ? C mon bro. That's really offensive!! Not nice</strong></i></div></div>
Lol don't take it so seriously. It was a play on words. Your diplomacy is similar to that of Mr " Best Korea".
Anyways, thanks for the analysis but ultimately I can't agree with most of it. For the points you use to make your point, the same can be said about mine. Blah... blah.... blah.... "immovable object meets a unstoppable force" scenario so lets just agree to disagree.</i></div></div> thanks for the compliment lol. Ya it's one of these scenarios of different views, nothing new around here. Thanks for taking the time though . As for CL8771, where are your manners?</i></div></div>
I think I had the exact same point as "If you prefer i could of commented " Yeah i don't like the trades either. The trades are all over the place and a show lack of value going back and perspective of the other teams cap." instead? Either way the message got across and I'm not the only one who thinks it." I guess I wasnt in a good mood and needed to take it out on a bad post?
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 20, 2016 at 7:24 p.m.
Thread:
Size and Gritt
lol what nonsense
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 20, 2016 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread:
Team USA that I would have rooted for
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs1967again</b></div><div><i>I'm OK with Kessel being left off. But I agree with a few of these changes.
Abdelkader does not belong in this tournament, neither does Jack Johnson.
I completely disagree with Erik Johnson being left off above. He is very underrated.</i></div></div>
are you sure its not just the effects of playing primarily with Barrie? I think Eric is good but not anywhere close to the other RHD USA has to offer.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 20, 2016 at 4:03 p.m.
Thread:
It's all about knowing when to sell
I completely understand the idea of trading Murray as he will fetch a greater return, but not if you trade malkin too. If your gonna keep the older goalie you might as well keep the core(malkin) and try to keep winning cups.Malkin will always be better than nuge and probably more impactful than pulj for at least a couple years. Your malkin trade has an eye on the future but to trade murray would be a full commitment to winning in the next 3 or so years, which is all the window that is really left with crosby anyways. I dont mind either trades youve done here on there own but not together. I think they contradict the direction of the team.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 8, 2016 at 10:41 a.m.
Thread:
Brodie trade options (Ottawa)
okay ive seen both your options now, and both are absoulutely insane, especially the one for Josi. If you think Brodie is that good why are you even trading him. it doesnt make sense. Dont get me wrong im a fan of Brodie and Id take him over Gio but this is nonsense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 23, 2016 at 10:35 p.m.
Thread:
Blockbuster
lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 8, 2016 at 8:34 p.m.
Thread:
Leon for Pie?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ivanthebad</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CL8771</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div><i>Why would STL do this trade? They are a cup contender and Pietrangelo is one of the best D in the league.</i></div></div>
Best D in the league? <strong>Hes not even the best on his team. </strong>Shatenkirk does much more. If Parayko takes anonther step forward I might be making the case Pie is the third best on the team.
Dont get me wrong, Im a big pie fan, I loved the guy when he was playing for Canada at the world juniors and he is a great player, but one of the best D in the league is a bit of a stretch.</i></div></div>
You know little about defense</i></div></div>
then you know little about offense.
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