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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 13, 2020 at 1:07 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2019-2020 Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>It's always great hearing from an outsider where my team is in it's "life-cycle", especially when they're wrong. We are not "rebuilding", we are going through a re-tooling phase as we transition past the Getzlaf/Perry era.</div></div>

I may not live in Anaheim but I am a Hockey fan first and I understand Hockey very well. According to your teams GM and every professional analyst Anaheim should be rebuilding with youth. Anything less will land you where Detroit finds themselves right now. May not be what you want to hear or choose to believe but it is the FACTS.

"Ducks GM Bob Murray wants to be busy before trade deadline." (<a href="https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/anaheim-ducks-general-manager-bob-murray-wants-to-be-busy-before-trade-deadline" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/anaheim-ducks-general-manager-bob-murray-wants-to-be-busy-before-trade-deadline</a>)

"Anaheim Ducks: Keeping John Gibson Fresh and Focused Through a Rebuild" (<a href="http://nhl.nbanewsnow.com/anaheim-ducks-keeping-john-gibson-fresh-and-focused-through-a-rebuild-national-hockey-league-news/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://nhl.nbanewsnow.com/anaheim-ducks-keeping-john-gibson-fresh-and-focused-through-a-rebuild-national-hockey-league-news/</a>)

"Anaheim Ducks Rebuild Should Proceed with Speed" (<a href="https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/12/04/anaheim-ducks-rebuild-should-proceed-with-speed/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/12/04/anaheim-ducks-rebuild-should-proceed-with-speed/</a>)

"Forget Retooling, It’s Time For The Anaheim Ducks To Rebuild" (<a href="https://www.spectorshockey.net/2019/12/forget-retooling-its-time-for-the-anaheim-ducks-to-rebuild/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.spectorshockey.net/2019/12/forget-retooling-its-time-for-the-anaheim-ducks-to-rebuild/</a>)

"The Anaheim Ducks, a team in transition, hoping that new coach ... Basically, the Ducks are going full rebuild" (<a href="https://the4thlinepodcast.com/anaheim-ducks-2019-20-nhl-season-preview" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://the4thlinepodcast.com/anaheim-ducks-2019-20-nhl-season-preview</a>)

Bottom line is Anaheim is having a fire sale to get as many draft picks and prospects under 24 yrs as they can manage. That means anyone 24 to 30 is their prime trade bait.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>Hey, I like Ritchie ... He's not a superstar and he's not going to have a noticeable impact TORs play</div></div>

I like Ritchie too. He just hasn't reached his potential in Anaheim and a lot of players respond to being moved. So he does have a scoring upside still. Specially if were paired with Matthews and Marner on the first line AND with the like of Kyle Clifford there to help school him along. As a hockey fan first I'd like to see him get that chance and make something of it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>Lindgren, Timashov, Hollowell are throw-ins for me and have no real value.</div></div>

I beg to differ that they have no "real value". A young prospect that has been filling their potential is worth much more then any draft pick where the question remains if the prospect will perform at the NHL level. For proof of that look at how many 1st overall picks bust as NHL'ers.

"Dmytro Timashov, LW, Shawinigan Cataractes (QMJHL)
Drafted by the Toronto Maple Leafs
5th Round, 125th overall, 2015

The Toronto Maple Leafs may have themselves a keeper in Dmytro Timashov. The offensive dynamo was in the spotlight this season for his standout play in the QMJHL as well as internationally at the World Junior Championship. Overshadowed by the big names at the tournament, Toronto’s Director of Player Personnel Mark Hunter suggested Timashov would be a sleeper in the tournament. He was correct. Timashov had a two-goal, five-assist performance for Sweden in a tournament where that country failed to medal. Upon returning to North America, he was traded to the Cataractes, bringing with him his playmaking ability, skating, and experience in the postseason. Timashov produced 32 points in 28 games for the Cataractes and finished the regular season with 85 points in 57 games overall. He has maintained his top form in the postseason where he has been especially dangerous with the man advantage."

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>Keep it simple.

Manson + Ritchie + Holzer &lt;----&gt; KK + Sandin/Liljegren + Ceci + 2nd

A deal to consider at least.</div></div>

So, I've read your comments and fully considered them. I will tweak the trade one more time to what I fully feel is a fair deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2020 at 11:51 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2019-2020 Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>Silfverberg is better than KK. Kase is also a play driver. We also have Terry coming through on the RS. If necessary, we could also move Jones to RW. KK isn’t a bad player, but he’s not NEED by any stretch of the imagination and certainly not a significant upgrade on what we already have.

Ceci is terrible. There is no point in trying to sugarcoat a known bad asset. You’re paying to dump him. He does nothing for us and would be gone by next season.

Lmfao at Lindgren have higher potential than Manson. Get real! You keep him then and we’ll keep Manson if you truly believe he has that kind of upside. Just stupid.

Ritchie hasn’t met expectations, but he brings a lot of intangibles that other players don’t. Big body, hits hard, good net presence on the PP. He’s the type you need more of during the playoffs, not less. He’s not a throw-in and someone I would prefer to keep around. We’re in the no rush to move anyone. We have a wealth of young wingers. We should keep them all and give them and opportunity to impress. The ones that fall short can be moved, but we’re a while away from needing to make that decision. It’s not a sure thing that Comtois or Jones will end up better than Ritchie. It’s likely on Comtois, but Jones is looking more and more like a grinder. Ritchie brings more for me right now, but Jones needs longer to develop.

If you’re changing the trade, remove Ritchie and start with Liljegren + 1st and keep adding.</div></div>


First off I don't think you understand where your Ducks are at in their lifecycles of an NHL team. They are currently in a rebuild phase. That means only draft picks over the next 2 to 3 years and players under 23 actually have face value to the team. Everything else is trade bait. That said Anaheim and Toronto have a long history of being good trade partners. Furthermore Anaheim is currently on the "in debt" side of that equation.

Kapanen (23 yrs 31 pts) isn't an immediate upgrade to Silfverberg (29 yrs 31 pts). But Silfverberg is going to be in his decline and Kapanen is only getting better. Not to mention Kapanen has done all this on the 3rd line in Toronto. Bumping up to the 1st line would see him excell far beyond Silfverberg in points. And you obviously haven't see him play if you think he doesn't "drive the play" as much. Kase (<a href="http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/ondrej-kase/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/ondrej-kase/</a>) doesn't even come close to Kapanen (<a href="http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/kasperi-kapanen/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/kasperi-kapanen/</a>) in potential or probability of reaching said potential. Manson has had one good year and the rest have been decent. He's be expected to have at least 2 more years as good as his best in TO to make him worth anything. So Kapanen for Mason requires more on the Ducks end of the deal by far.

Cody Ceci isn't going to replace Manson by any stretch but he does fill in the gap on the right side one line down.

With Ritchie, you have to give to get. Anaheim has enough of his player type that trading any one based on the "toughness" aspect doesn't carry weight. And based on who else is coming up, their comparative ages and giving them ice time to "bloom", Ritchie is odd man out and with lower than face value.

Lindgren is 22 yrs old with a projected 7.0 talent score and a D rating of reaching that potential (so likely to end up a 6.0 to 7.0) with offensive potential Manson just doesn't have
Manson is 28 yrs old with a projected 6.0 talent score (already reached but one season only) and a C rating of reaching that potential (age would indicate unlikely to be as good as his best season again)
Lindgren is exactly the good potential prospect R-handed D that Anaheim wants right now for a rebuilding team. Manson is completely expendable and trade-fodder. Add Mac Hollowell 21 yrs old R-handed D that plays solid D like Manson and now you have two good young D men to grow with over the next decade.

But again I will take your comments into consideration and rework the trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 7, 2020 at 6:31 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2019-2020 Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>Ducks pass. AJ/KK do nothing for us. Would need one of Liljegren/Sandin + for just Manson alone. Holzer could be had cheap, but Ritchie has some serious value to us because of the intangibles he brings (I.e. grit, hitting, net presence, etc.).</div></div>

Kapanen (23 yrs old with 30 points) does a lot for an aging Aneheim that is at the beginning of a rebuild phase. He arguably becomes their top RW with as many points as Silfverberg (29 yrs 31 points) has. If not now then soon.

Ceci still has a potential upside and Aneheim has plenty of cap space to take on the short contract with a good argument to resign him for much less if he doesn't respond to two trades in under 2 years.

Meanwhile Jesper Lindgren has a potential higher then Manson and is only 22 yrs old. So he has a full 6 years to get there. Along with a 4th round pick that is 2 rounds higher then Manson was taken at round 6.

As for losing Richie. He hasn't really performed up to his potential in Aneheim and a location change might be exactly what he needs. Meanwhile moving him gives space for Max Jones and Max Comtois (both 21 yrs and similar style players) to show their potential. Dmytro Timashov meanwhile brings good potential for a solid two way player to the LW.

But with all that said I will change the trade giving your comments some consideration.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 7, 2019 at 3:41 a.m.
Thread: Fix for Stanley Dynasty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Stanley Cup destiny? Let's just win a playoff round.
Those trades really don't make the Leafs much better this year and certainly hurt long term.</div></div>

These trades make the team exponentially better. They fill in exactly the BIG obvious gaps in exactly the right places the team needs.

Right now teams have no fear out muscling the Leafs. Parayko is 6'6 240 that hits, skates, and has a blasting point shot. Most importantly he clears traffic in front of the net. Something only Muzzin does now.

Folingo brings grit, scoring, plays both wings, and he will defend teammates. Plus the allumni factor of his father. Ritchie is exactly the same. Suddenly on line 1 and 2 we would have tough scoring threats that get in front of the other teams goalies and cause mayhem. They also create room for guys like Tavares, Mathews, Marner and Nylander.

Hayden is like a poor mans Wilson. But Wash ins't trading Wilson anytime soon.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2019 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Team Fix 2019 summer moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>Marner doesn't accept, that's probably what he's worth, but he's already said he's not signing for less than 10, especially for 8 years,</div></div>

Ok so add 250k to the Marner contract and bring it down to 7 years?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>ANA rejects bc they're giving up a top 4 defenseman, and a solid young third liner for 2 cap dumps and an average 2C</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>Not to mention Stephen Johns is unlikely to ever play an NHL game again due to extreme post-concussion syndrome. So probably not a great trade target.</div></div>

Did not know that about Johns. That does indeed change things. So how about forget the Dallas trade all together. Add Moore to the Anaheim trade, change Kapanen in the St.Louis trade instead of Johnsson and sign him to the Leafs for 3 years at $2mil (give or take a few hundred k).

I'll edit the team to show these changes. Now what would you think?
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 26, 2019 at 11:14 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Summer Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brocklesnar</b></div><div>Alright you keep thinking that, Manson is miles better than Kadri.</div></div>

And you are simply wrong according to these 3 professional scouting report rankings.

This is a report that pro scouts use when dealing with trades. It takes into consideration all kinds of data. First it gives and overall talent grade analysis 1 through 10. Then it gives a probability of reaching that level and playing consistently at that level. And yes it changes as the players pro stats/play evolve.
Kadri is a 8.0 with a B consistency (<a href="http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nazem_kadri/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/nazem_kadri/</a>)
Manson is a 6.0 with a B consistency (<a href="http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/josh_manson/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/josh_manson/</a>)
Kadri is ranked 2 full points above Manson in overall value. End result Kadri is worth Manson AND a 3rd, possibly 2nd, round pick

These are fantasy sport rankings. Not as legit as the one above but still worthwhile. The ADP is the average draft position these players are taken at in fantasy drafts.
Kadri's ADP is 139 (<a href="https://www.fantasypros.com/nhl/adp/nazem-kadri.php" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.fantasypros.com/nhl/adp/nazem-kadri.php</a>)
Manson's ADP is 177 (<a href="https://www.fantasypros.com/nhl/adp/josh-manson.php" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.fantasypros.com/nhl/adp/josh-manson.php</a>)
Manson is an average 38 picks after Kadri. In a fantasy league with 10 players that means he is picks a full 3 to 4 rounds after Kadri (if Manson is picked at all)

Another Fantasy ranking.
Kadri is an A- (<a href="https://dobberprospects.com/nazem-kadri/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://dobberprospects.com/nazem-kadri/</a>)
Manson is a C+ (<a href="https://dobberprospects.com/josh-manson/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://dobberprospects.com/josh-manson/</a>)
Manson is ranked 4 full levels below Kadri. Not even a contest.

I suggest you learn your hockey.

So in this light how about Kadri and Johnsson for Manson, Richie, Dotchin AND a 1st or 2nd round pick? Toronto will hold on to Hollowell cause that would be way overkill. Thanks for making double check this trade.