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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 12:58 p.m.
Thread: Mitch Marner Middle-Man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>As a Hawks fan...Leafs aren't doing this, BUT I will say...you're right that the Hawks can absolutely be a 1 year middleman to help assist in a trade.

This is actually one of the things I very much like about this site. This is a horrible idea, but it might lead to a good one eventually. We can 100% take 1 year of cap space for the right price. Open up options for TOR to make something happen for Marner because of this NMC.</div></div>

A bare minimum 100% of the made-up nonsense I post on this site are exactly those horrible ideas I am absolutely sure make no sense on their face but feel might contain some buried nugget of genuinely interesting possibility. If I can't get something out of my head but I also can't make it work, that's when I show up here to throw it out and see where it goes.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread: Mitch Marner Middle-Man
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>1 year of Marner at 50% would have absolutely massive value. The bulk of which would go to TO. Of course no one will agree with that. But this is cap friendly, so the Hawks fans in this instance likely think they should get a top prospect and a 1st to retain while TO gets a 3rd for Marner.</div></div>

I understand how you feel. I was absolutely furious when Patrick Kane got a 2nd round pick because he was able to choose his destiny and he used the rights he earned. I was upset because the other side didn't give the value that I thought my player was worth. Marner at 50% would be one of the best contracts in the NHL. The NYR paid Patrick Kane a WHOPPING ~$168k for his services. And a 2nd rounder is all we could get?!?!

It's a tough spot. Toronto Media is doing you/him zero favors. The fact that Marner wouldn't take the presser and that market keeps rubbing it in by replaying over and over again Nylander (of all people...talk about ironic) yelling at Marner about This isn't Juniors Bro! Hawks can play a role. Treliving will go shopping for partners if Marner is actually the one going...he does have a full NMC and can stay if he wants. I actually think that's what should happen. Value will be very hard to find right now for either JT or Marner.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 2:43 p.m.
Thread: Cleaning
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Elias_Sedin</b></div><div>what about Tavares helping Bedard and showing him the defensive side of the game? what if you got him for a 2nd. The guy is a great leader and you get him at a good price for one year. he had 65 points last year. how Is that not a good add for the Hawks. would you do it for a 2nd and 3rd instead?</div></div>

I wouldn’t pay for Tavares as I have said in multiple threads now. The Hawks have enough veterans on the roster to “show the young guys the way”, they need talent. If JT comes to Chicago with draft capital attached to him I would consider it because I can then draft talent or trade that draft capital for younger established players who may be around for the long haul. If not, I use that cap space to try and acquire someone like Teravainen in FA.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
Thread: Kane and Toews 1 last cup run
-Vegas doesn't feel like a landing spot for Jarnkrok - they've got some room with Lehner on LTIR, but devoting 60% of that space to a 3rd liner feels like a weird use of assets.

-I don't see the sense for Chicago to pay this much for a veteran in his walk year. Vancouver's pick is likely to be in the first half of the 2nd, and Ottawa is probably mid-3rd - would you give up a low-40s and low-80s pick for the *possibility* that you might get a late-20s pick? Because, remember, Brodie could turn into a pumpkin and completely tank his value playing on a rebuilding team at 33 years old - or worse, he could get injured. The difference in value between picks #40OA + #80OA and #28OA is the equivalent of a mid/late-4th rounder - wouldn't it just make more sense for the Blackhawks to sign a guy like Nick Ritchie or Tyler Motte for $1M and flip them out at the deadline for that type of draft capital instead?

-3rd for retention works, but think you need more than just a warm body with that 2nd to get the Flames to move Zadorov. Nothing big, but someone with more NHL potential than Rifai.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
Thread: Core Four is NOT It
-I'll leave the argument on value for this trade to those who want to have it and just say Edmonton couldn't do this trade because of the cap - McDavid &amp; Draisaitl: $21M AAV; Matthews+Marner+Brodie: $26.5M, with the Oilers currently only having $5.6M in space *and* needing to extend Evan Bouchard.

-Again, no need to talk about the value. Chicago has Corey Perry, Nick Foligno, and Taylor Hall on hand as veteran mentors for Conor Bedard. They're not going to pay premium assets for the ass end of Tavares' contract.

-I can see the argument that Nylander and Guentzel are similarly valued players; this would come down to how the Pens feel about their odds of extending Guentzel, and if they think giving up a 2nd/3rd for Steeves/Robertson/4th is fair value. I'd pass if I was the Pens, but that's just me.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.