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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 6:03 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>turtlemountain</b></div><div>You move out Girard and Johnson and you still need to fill out the roster with defensemen. It’s not hard to find a cheap guy to play bottom pairing minutes, but part of Girard’s appeal is that he’s on a great contract considering the value he brings.

And EJ’s contract sucks but it’s only one more year and then his money goes to MacKinnon/Byram/Newhook.</div></div>

These are the exact reasons I thought of why COL wouldn't do it. The question is does the pros out way the cons. That's why I love this trade its really debatable and has a lot of different things to consider. I would say not doing the trade is playing it safe but, if you do it you have a really good chance of getting back-to-back cups. You are the first person that agrees that the EJ contract is garbage. Thank you.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:51 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>But what happens after one year? He will make the same as kadri. With Byram and Newhook needing contracts soon, they won’t be able to afford a miller extension making him a rental</div></div>

By that point hopefully, Colorado will have 2 cups. This trade opens up 11 million in cap for COL. Say Miller signs at 8 Millon which is still a net gain of 3 million in cap.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Johnson isn’t a cap dump, Millers a rental no Stanley cup contender is trading 2 of their top 5 dmen for a rental.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>How is Johnson not a cap dump?</div></div>

He is making 6 million next year and he is playing 3rd pair. You don't think the money could be better spent somewhere else? COL is probably winning the cup this year and will want to keep the band together so they can win more. They have 11 players that are UFA/RFA. Several need a large payday. Johnson is the most expendable asset to free up money.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:21 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>I don’t think Miller makes much sense for the avs</div></div>

Colorado and Miller's name has been brought up. I kind of see it as a Kadri replacement.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:16 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>This isn't really blowing it up</div></div>

It's the same core but, you move 7 players out.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>COL isn’t trading 2 dmen for a rental especially one that’s locked up for half a decade. If they hadn’t had moved Barron and Helleson then you put a lot more consideration into it.</div></div>

In the above post, I explain the logic.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>As a fan of neither the Nucks or Avs I gotta think they decline the Miller trade. Girard is a great top 4 d man locked up to a great contract. Miller is a rental. I could see him getting a 1st, great prospect and maybe a 2nd or lesser prospect. I personally don’t think you move a top 4 d man in his mid 20s signed long term for a rental. It’d more than likely need to be a hockey trade for another similar aged player. Thinking of the Johansen and Jones trade a while back.</div></div>

Johnson is a cap dump. COL moves 11 million dollars out and gets a 1C for 2.6 million at 1 year with the extra cap it isn't out of question they could resign him or use the massive amount of money they open up to keep the team together.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: Blow it up

I want to hear Colorado fans' thoughts on the trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2022 at 9:48 p.m.

Thread: Retool not rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>srof12</b></div><div>He’s literally not looped in on Devils news if he’s reporting something like that, that’s been proven to be untrue. I’m not being defensive I’m just telling you the reality of the situation.</div></div>

We will see what happens.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2022 at 8:05 p.m.

Thread: Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Letang resigning does not make Marino expendable as a team needs more than 1 defenseman.
Why would Kapanen be leaving as a UFA? He is a RFA with a QO of $840K coming off of a down year.
The Hagel trade is one of the most panned trades in the last decade, not a benchmark. He then went on to fizzle hard in Tampa.
0-3 in those citings.

Miller has gotten 99 points exactly once in his career. I understand wanting to sell high, but odds are that he will never do that again.

Pens counter: Marino, 3rd for Miller
Best yet, stop trading Miller to Pittsburgh simply because you guys want Marino so badly.</div></div>

We will see what happens.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2022 at 4:10 p.m.

Thread: Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stadel</b></div><div>The 2nd year on the deal is the issue. A lot of teams will want that flexibility, and the teams with cap space have no reason to invest any picks in him when they could get a better player for cheaper in FA.</div></div>

Fair points. Dickinson was traded to Vancouver for a 3rd and I think he must have some value.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2022 at 4:06 p.m.

Thread: Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhyWait</b></div><div>Marino, Kapanen, Poulin, 1st for Miller

Blatant first reaction: LOL
Pens counter: Marino, 3rd for Miller
Vancouver fans REALLY need to stop with the "please give us Marino" trades.

Also, as a side, $4Mx5 for Kapanen is way off. He will get 1 or 2 years around $2.5M per to get his play back up.</div></div>

With Letang resigning probably Marino is expendable. Kapanen will probably walk as a UFA. Look at what Hagel got at the deadline. Miller is a 99-point player. I can see the argument that Kapanen could get between 3-4 million. I went with 4 million to be on the high end.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2022 at 3:14 p.m.

Thread: Playoffs

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stadel</b></div><div>youre gunna have to give someone a pick to take dickinson.</div></div>

I'm sure someone will take him for a late-round pick. I know he had a really bad year.

Forum: Vancouver CanucksJun. 20, 2022 at 2:34 p.m.

Thread: ANDREI KUZMENKO To Vancouver

This management hasn't let us down yet. It's such a breath of fresh air to have competent management at the helm after 8 years of Benning. KUZMENKO has selected Vancouver today! Jim has sold another person on his dream for this team moving forward. While we don't know how good KUZMENKO will be this is the type of smart move that will improve the team. This move is zero risk and all upside. As a Canucks fan I'm very excited for this offseason. I predict the signing of KUZMENKO means Pearson will be moved soon.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 20, 2022 at 2:10 p.m.

Thread: Crazy Cap Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>QJohns62</b></div><div>Why would Van do this? Taking on extra salary with an older player and giving up a pick? Even with OEL's longer contract, (and full NTC, he's not going to SJ) he's still a serviceable d-man, good for 30 points, showed a decent two-way game this year. SJ doesn't want to do this, Van doesn't want to do this.</div></div>

Burns is a right-hand D and has 2 years less in his contract.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJun. 19, 2022 at 7:53 p.m.

Thread: Crazy Cap Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JNoons13</b></div><div>Sharks decline. Burns is a pillar of the franchise. He sells jerseys + tickets and there's almost no cap relief considering Burnzie's contract expires 2 years before OEL's</div></div>

Thanks for the feedback. I'm just brainstorming what could work to move OEL.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 7:43 p.m.

Thread: Sharks 2223

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>Because his last year was kind of underwhelming I opted to go for a 2 year prove it deal before a bigger contract</div></div>

I think the dollar value is fair on the contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 7:42 p.m.

Thread: Sharks 2223

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kjell_Forsman</b></div><div>He is not a top six winger lol. His career high is 36 points...thats third line quality. I feel bad for people that can't read a basic stat line.</div></div>

36 points in 65 games. Puljujärvi was on pace for 45 points and close to 20 goals. I feel bad for people who can't see the bigger picture.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 7:34 p.m.

Thread: Retool not rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>srof12</b></div><div>When both the Devils and Bratt’s agent have said they’re working on it and then Seravalli reports that nothing has started, then I’d say he’s not that reliable.

So is out 2nd overall pick and we’re not moving that either</div></div>

I never said he is for sure getting traded. If you scroll up you can see me saying I'm not sure why NJ would trade him. All I'm saying is Bratt trades don't seem that farfetched considering there are rumours. NJ fans get so defensive. I'm not a hockey insider so yes, I value what one of the most looped-in insiders says.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 4:15 a.m.

Thread: Retool not rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Frank didn't say anything about them moving him. All he did in that video was spew useless nonsense. There is definitely no rush at all to sign him right now considering his is an RFA with arbitration rights. Devils are likely trying to figure out who they are looking to add in the UFA market or via trade before the draft atm</div></div>

Bratt is on Seravalli's trade board at #10 of 30.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:43 a.m.

Thread: Retooling

The Canucks don't need another left-handed D. Garland is worth a lot more.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:42 a.m.

Thread: Leafs

The Canucks trade is good for both teams.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:36 a.m.

Thread: Retool not rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Bratt is <em>definitely</em> worth more, and I'd put good money on the trade rumors being a crock of ****</div></div>

I'm not sure why NJ would want to move him but, Frank Seravalli is pretty reliable.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:23 a.m.

Thread: Retool not rebuild

Bratt is probably worth more.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2022 at 3:08 a.m.

Thread: Sharks 2223

I think you're underestimating the value of Puljujärvi. Puljujärvi is a top 6 winger. I feel bad for Shark fans with all that money tied up on the backend.

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