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Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:50 p.m.
Thread: Back to the Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>The pick is the most valuable piece coming from Minnesota. Curious how a top 10 pick is not helpful. Are expectations that CBJ will make the playoffs next year?

I’m curious on Jiricek. He seems to be unhappy with how things are going. I totally understand not wanting to trade him, but I think there is some level of discontent. We might have to swing back around if he ever wants out.</div></div>

Expectations are to be competitive in 2-3 years. Jiricek <em><strong>was </strong></em>understandably frustrated, he dominated the AHL last year (and a lot of this year when he was down there), but was healthy scratched or demoted/promoted quickly for a stretch. He was frustrated about not playing, and it was aimed nearly entirely at the GM who no longer has a job with the team. He was an NHL regular at the end of the season.

The issue is, if we trade Jiricek, we don't have a suitable replacement or prospect of his caliber on the right side, and there aren't any available in this draft aside from maybe Levshunov, who's gone in the top-4. So no, a top-10 pick doesn't do a lot of good if it's at the expense of Jiricek.

Marchenko and Rossi are about the same age and produce about equally, so I'd call them equal value. We're set on the left side with Werenski here and Mateychuk on the way. We don't have anyone on the right aside from Severson and Gudbranson, so that coupled with no desire to move Marchenko makes this a quick no from Columbus.

Total value is pretty close in all likelihood, but it doesn't at all fit Columbus' needs.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:39 p.m.
Thread: Back to the Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>The pick is the most valuable piece coming from Minnesota. Curious how a top 10 pick is not helpful.</div></div>
Because we're largely finished with the "acquire lots of prospects" phase and are now into the "actually develop the kids you have" phase. Same reason we're not trading Jenner anytime soon.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>I’m curious on Jiricek. He seems to be unhappy with how things are going. I totally understand not wanting to trade him, but I think there is some level of discontent. We might have to swing back around if he ever wants out.</div></div>
The news of Jiricek's discontent has been grossly exaggerated to say the least. It's no more than literally any other prospect in any other market who was hoping not to go to the AHL. It's been blown out of proportion into something supposedly more than that entirely on the basis of "but something something Columbus".
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 4:33 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 11:17 a.m.
Thread: We all know it is Chitown or Utah Alpacas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FarhanLuigi</b></div><div>This place is nothing but a toxic wasteland full of tribalism. 99.9% of trades get laughed at and most will just gaslight. Brilliant.</div></div>

The self awareness of this one is zero. You're literally culprit #1.

If you're actually interested in having a discussion (doubtful): this isn't "making necessary changes", this is terrible asset management. Rebuilding teams don't trade likely 2 top-5 picks (KJ and the 2025 1st) for a 3rd liner with one good year and a second $5M+ goalie with term, that's straight-up moronic.

I'd entertain moving every single one of those pieces (but not until KJ is healthy post-surgery recovery) for upgrades, but saying KJ definitively wants out, having Columbus trade for Markstrom given Elvis is still here, and then gaslighting fans that tell you that doesn't make sense is some brainworm s***.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2 at 2:12 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 9:55 a.m.
Thread: Marner and lotta shufflin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MW6</b></div><div>Ok, sorry wasn’t trying to mislead. That’s what I remembered from that situation during the season. Aside from me misremembering, what would be have to added to 10th &amp; Iorio to get it done? From a pure value perspective.</div></div>

Columbus just has so many D just like Iorio in the system already, I don't think he's particularly interesting. Tenth overall and a C-level D prospect just don't net you a team's top prospect, especially when the team losing the top prospect has nothing notable behind him at his position in their own pool. Iorio is not a better prospect than Corson Ceulemans, for example. They're both projected third pairing D in the NHL, and Iorio plays for a far better AHL squad than Ceulemans does. It should hurt to acquire Jiricek, as moving him hurts the Jackets (and we have established that, while disgruntled about the team's mishandling of him this season, he has not asked for a trade). This doesn't hurt Washington at all.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 7:29 a.m.
Thread: Marner and lotta shufflin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Friendly_Cannon</b></div><div>Jiricek did NOT request a trade.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>"asked for a trade during the season"
Actually, no. No he did not. Never got anywhere near that, in fact. He expressed frustration that he was going back to the AHL at one point - y'know, like many prospects on most teams do early on in their development - and some wannabe pundit took that and fabricated a "trade request" out of thin air, and other folks pounced on that and ran with it with no further justification or research beyond "it's Columbus". It's literally completely made up. The guy for whom there's a "made a trade request"/"no he didn't"/"maybe he did" back-and-forth was Merzlikins.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Jiricek voiced his displeasure at getting sent down, but I don't think he requested a trade.

And if you read<a href="https://theathletic.com/5231542/2024/01/28/blue-jackets-david-jiricek-ahl/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">the story</a>, he actually handled it fairly well.

<p class="tar"><em>“I played good hockey in the NHL. I’m an NHL player right now. That’s my opinion, that I should be in the NHL right now. I see guys from the same draft, like Simon Nemec and Korchinski… they get a chance on the power play. They play a ton of minutes in the NHL. Those are different teams, so different situations, but I can compare with them. I just want a chance to play like that. They told me the last game was not good enough for me. I told them I don’t think so, but that’s your opinion. I was out of the lineup after that. A whole month now, it feels like I haven’t played. It’s been most of the month without hockey, so I will play Saturday. After that, we’ll see.”</em></p></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I don't know why that text skewed to the side like that.</div></div>

Ok, sorry wasn’t trying to mislead. That’s what I remembered from that situation during the season. Aside from me misremembering, what would be have to added to 10th &amp; Iorio to get it done? From a pure value perspective.