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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
Thread: Mid-season form
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Unless Pesce is willing to extend, this is an unwise move.</div></div>

My thoughts exactly. I see him maybe in the Hampus Lindholm / Damon Severson range... likely slightly lower... but I imagine him wanting $5.5-6 mil per season for 7-8 years.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Fabbro and a 2nd is the most I'd be willing to spend on Pesce too.

He's already at an age where an extended Pesce could be an unwise move too</div></div>

A 2nd and Fabbro would be the most I'd consider. Preferrably a 2nd and Carrier... but it would make sense Carolina would want the RFA over a UFA.

... Even though Pesce would want 7-8yrs, I think I would be okay giving him $6mil x 4/5 yrs. But I doubt he accepts that.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
Thread: Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AEcho</b></div><div>That package isn't getting you Saros. Saros is a top 5 goalie in the league and is on a steal of a contract right now that still has term left. He will likely get paid a similar contract to the one Sorokin just signed earlier this off-season. On top of that Lebrun reported a few weeks ago that Saros is likely going to stay put. This means NSH will have a 1A-1B thing with Saros and Askarov in a couple of years.

If you want Saros that badly you have to blow Tortz away with an offer. Something like taking the current package and putting Ostlund on top of that. There aren't really comps to a Saros trade because it doesn't happen, and NSH is perfectly content to hang onto Saros because trading Saros means full rebuild for NSH, not just a retool</div></div>

This...

Saros isn't going anywhere with Trotz's latest moves. The Re-build/Re-Tool is over and the goal is to make the playoffs this season.
Forum: NHLJul. 5, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
Thread: The New Nashville
My understanding of Trotz's plan so far:
- Hire new Coach (sure!)
- Have press conference about getting younger and taking a step back in order to move forward (I'm okay with this idea, the young guys showed promise)
- Trade Johansen to the Avs with 50% retention for literally nothing (dang, couldn't even get a pick with that much retention, but its okay, it was a lot of money and opens up a spot for the youth)
- Draft a lot of players with high upside (swing for the fences, why not try to take a few flyers as our AHL is stocked)
- Buy-out Duchene on final day of buy-out window (REALLY... you couldn't move him? he was our top point scorer last year and still puts up numbers... but now 6 years of buy-out... ugh, I hope this one pans out... but the plan is to make space for the youth... so... okay!)
- Free Agency Window Opens.... Signs O'Reilly, Schene, Nyquist (all 33 yr olds) on 4 / 3 / 2 year term contracts respectively... (You lost me Trotz. Winning culture, sure, these guys can do that... but I guess we are back to win now mode?... WTF IS HAPPENING!!!)

That's how I see it. So taking a step back was the time between he was brought on to day one of free agency... we are back to win now it seems! So yeah, WTF is the plan!
Forum: Nashville PredatorsJul. 5, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
Thread: Trotz's Plan? Culture Change?
Hey Smashville!

So with the recent events of new coach in Brunette, Duchene being bought out, Johansen moved with 50% retention for nothing, O'Reilly / Schene / Nyquist (all 33yr olds) being signed to 4 / 3 / 2 year contracts respectively... what do you all think the ultimate plan of Trotz is? He is on record talking about bringing in a winning culture, but maybe I'm reading the words in between the lines in that the culture that was there to begin with wasn't that great? From what I read Johansen was a great locker room guy, but maybe just couldn't keep up? I've also read that Duchene can be a bit of a trouble maker in a room as well, is that the case here?

From these moves, Saros isn't going anywhere, and hopefully these moves make Forsburg and Josi happy enough to work through potential growing pains with the influx of youth coming up.

I guess time will tell, but is it reasonable to expect this team to make a push for the playoffs?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
Thread: 1 Too Many RD - Odd Man Out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Livingston will almost certainly play in the AHL, sitting him on the bench would be a complete waste of his potential and only hurt his development</div></div>

Yeah, as much as I would want him in the big club, it makes more sense to have him play more in the AHL.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>NSH seems to always overload on defensemen, eh? I thought it was weird when they got Schenn, I thought that meant they'd move on from Carrier, but then they signed him, too. NSH can only retain on one more contract for this season, would it be worth it to retain on Barrie? I doubt there'd be much interest for him.

I think the most likely scenario is they either bench or trade Lauzon, since they'd probably actually get something for him. They did just sign Carrier so it's not like they'll trade him. Fabbro does have upside. I think they have Lauzon ride the bench/trade market and play one of the righties on LD for now.

I'd also definitely get Sherwood in the lineup, he was good down the stretch in their little run last year.</div></div>

Maybe if things look bleak come trade deadline time, retention and a trade for Barrie could be had... but I don't think trading him with retention now makes sense. And agreed, getting Sherwood some time would be great as well.

As for putting Carrier or Fabbro on the left side over Lauzon... its an option, and if an injury happens in the top 4, it is likely required for someone to move to the left side.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>I see Livingstone in MIL, until there's an injury. It would be best for his development, and he's waiver exempt.</div></div>

Yeah, that makes sense. So he goes down to the AHL, who then becomes the healthy scratch? Lauzon? Fabbro? Carrier?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I just don't see the logic in thinking 4 NHL RHD is too many. Injuries happens and what ever side they play regularly, having 7 or 8 NHL capable Dmen is necessary for the season .
Not that object to trading Barrie....but your logic is incorrect when who say the Preds have "too many" RHD.</div></div>

I guess I would feel better if one of Carrier and Fabbro had some time spent on LD. But maybe that is what gets looked at this year. I agree that 7-8 NHL capable Dmen is necessary, it is just usually number 7 &amp; 8 are $1 mil a year players, not $2 mil. That's more my thought of maybe having 'too many'.