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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 5:32 a.m.
Thread: HARF- Sens 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Except the defense isn't "in shambles". Lilleberg has been an excellent call up, Raddysh has been playing great, and even Fleury has elevated his game. Losing Serg hurts, of course, but it's no time to panic ans throw away a top 6 C for 1 or 2 years of improvements. Chych is much worse playing the right side as well, and Tampa rarely has dmen playing their off side anyway.

Tampa's prospect pool isn't as stacked as it once was of course, having late 1sts and making (mostly) smart trades to move other futures will do that (although winning 2 Cups and nearly a 3rd has been worth it). Even so, Tampa has had multiple call ups contributing greatly this season. There are also some very promising prospects in the system (Howard, Gauthier, Duke, Goncalves, Huhtanen, Thompson etc).

Tampa also doesn't move core guys that just signed 8 year deals. If Cirelli was near the end of his deal or on a short term contract,magbe; however, he is seen as an integral part of not only this current core, but also a key part of the next. The value is more than fair in a vacuum, but the fit for Tampa does not.</div></div>


I'd agree with that. Fair value and a partisan choice to go after Cerelli. A move for the Gourde may be an easier move and bring in someone who came through the Tampa system.
I do think that Chyrcun could fit well now, and provide a key piece if a push was made this year. I don't think that Raddysh and Fleury provide the D depth that Tampa needs, but that can be shored up with a lot less.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 4:02 a.m.
Thread: HARF- Sens 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>The average age of Tampa's core is around 28-29. They should, with careful management, have several good years left. There are more cost-effective forwards and dmen that Tampa can acquire without moving Cirelli. Tampa also has the Stamkis and Hedman contracts coming up this offseason and next. If they go after a rental F, that's fine, but it should be one that maybe they could re-sign. If LD moving ahead was a glaring weakness, then maybe they consider losing Cirelli for Chych. Since it's not, they shouldn't. They should be looking at someone like Seeler or maybe Ferraro for the left, and one of Walker, Lyubushkin, Fabbro, Carrier, etc, on the right. Players that are either affordable with term moving ahead or would be more likely to be extended, all without giving up Cirelli.</div></div>

That's a good analysis. However, their D is in shambles. Hedman, Cernak, Sergachev is a descent three-pack, and a key year for their window is slipping away without Serg. And Hedman is getting up there. Chycrun can play on the right if the LD is solid as well. A top of four of Hedman-Cernak, Sergachev-Chycrun is lethal, and this trade keeps a push this season open to some extent. I can see the second being flipped into a first--likely the Boston pick because the Sens pick will be a lottery. Cirelli would leave a hole, no doubt, and I'd want him for partisan purposes. But the "core" being at 28-29 takes the aging of the team out of perspective. Stammer is 34, Hedman is 33, Kuckerov is 30. Point, Cirelli, and Cernak are in their prime. To keep the window open some retooling will be required. The shelves are bare and the depth is faltering fast.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10 at 11:54 p.m.
Thread: HARF- Sens 3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTBF81</b></div><div>Tampa declines. Not saying that the value isn't there, but Cirelli is too valuable both in the present and for the future. Tarasenko would be a straight rental, a 2nd is a 2nd, and while Chychrun is a good player, Tampa doesn't need another LD after Serg gets back. Additionally, Chychrun is basically a 2-year rental, as Tampa most likely wouldn't be able to afford his wants on hos.next deal either.</div></div>

How many more cup pushes do you think Tampa has left? Two years is hardly a rental, look at the Hagel deal and how that played out. Tarasenko is a rental for the current year. If you're trying to sneak in and do damage he slides in the top 9. Word on the streets is already saying that Tampa is looking to make a splash to fill in Serg's spot. Chycrun fills that gap.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5 at 11:56 a.m.
Thread: Harf-Sens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>oh wow. that's a tough one. honestly i think it's a pretty big gamble for both sides.
On the one side: While we're seeing pretty linear progression from Frederic, there's always the concern that it's situation, or a hot streak. the sample size is pretty small, but he's playing so well right now. With him, there's going to be the benefit of having him at a contract that should accurately represent his abilities, but then again he's a UFA after next season.
On the other side: we've seen a much higher ceiling for Norris, but right now that's looking like it might have been an outlier season. He was signed to a deal when he looked like a 40 goal scorer, and now he's looking like an overpaid 20 goal guy.
Personally, I would say a trade like this would have to wait for a year to figure out:
-Is Frederic a center? He was drafted as a center, but has struggled on the dot in the NHL, leading to him being deployed mostly as a winger.
-What Frederic's next extension looks like.
-What the heck is Josh Norris? dynamic scorer or overpaid 50 point guy.</div></div>

Good breakdown. I think another big component to bring in would be that Norris has had some serious injury concerns. Can that shoulder hold up? However, I like Freidric to go on the wing for the Sens. We have so many pure offensive guys and I see Freidric as a Gourde/Cirelli-type character on the wing. For the Sens, our 1/2 can be Stutzle/Pinto.

But for the Bruins as well, Norris is a definite top 6 centre. If he can remain steady at a 60-70 point pace, it would help shore up the middle for the foreseeable future.