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Created by: Harford
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2024
Published: Feb. 4, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
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2.
PHI
  1. Batherson, Drake
  2. Søgaard, Mads
  3. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
OTT
  1. Faulk, Justin
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYR)
4.
VAN
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$79,767,379$0$1,850,000$3,732,621
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$838,333$838,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2

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Feb. 4 at 11:57 p.m.
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Don’t think Faulk would waive for Canada
Feb. 5 at 12:01 a.m.
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Harford
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Quoting: AC14
Don’t think Faulk would waive for Canada


I just base on merits of the trade.. thoughts?
Feb. 5 at 12:03 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Canucks pass
Feb. 5 at 12:04 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass


Really eh, Hoglander valued that high?
Feb. 5 at 12:07 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Really eh, Hoglander valued that high?


Yeah, he's already at 14 goals this year playing 4 line mins making only 1.1 and for a team like Vancouver that really values cap space right now it would be extremely hard to replace that production at that age at thay price
Feb. 5 at 12:10 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Yeah, he's already at 14 goals this year playing 4 line mins making only 1.1 and for a team like Vancouver that really values cap space right now it would be extremely hard to replace that production at that age at thay price


It's still just 20 points, but fair for sure. I like him for the grit and speed. A flip over to first would be worthwhile. What would move the needle for ya?
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Feb. 5 at 12:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Harford
I just base on merits of the trade.. thoughts?


I would do it. They’re pretty similar players. Don’t think Ottawa would though
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Feb. 5 at 12:17 a.m.
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Quoting: AC14
I would do it. They’re pretty similar players. Don’t think Ottawa would though


OTT is looking into Tanev right now. Have three LH D-man that play the same role. Need some vet presence on the right side and I think Faulk fills that gap. Grabbing an extra pick is a bonus.
Feb. 5 at 12:36 a.m.
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Future Norris guy
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Dead last Ottawa in the Atlantic aren't buyers, So none of these trades are remotely going down. Faulk doesn't waive for Canada. And fat chance of Travis Konecny being traded to a Non-Playoff team.
Feb. 5 at 12:38 a.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
Dead last Ottawa in the Atlantic aren't buyers, So none of these trades are remotely going down. Faulk doesn't waive for Canada. And fat chance of Travis Konecny being traded to a Non-Playoff team.


Sens should have been a playoff team this year, but they're soft and didn't have Pinto for half the year. Add grit and they're making a run next year.
Feb. 5 at 1:06 a.m.
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I think you're on the right track for PHI but it falls short by a small amount... likely another pick.
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Feb. 5 at 4:16 a.m.
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Ehh okaaay. Now you just need to get Faulk to waive. Good luck.
Feb. 5 at 5:43 a.m.
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OTT is not doing that Flyers deal, the difference between Batherson and Konecny is not a first and OTT best G prospect, hell their values are most likely even or Bath has a little more value do to contract.

OTT is not trading a 26 YO for a 32 YO

OTT has zero interest in Gourde

OTT not trading Joseph
Feb. 5 at 5:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Harford
It's still just 20 points, but fair for sure. I like him for the grit and speed. A flip over to first would be worthwhile. What would move the needle for ya?


Yeah I'm confident the Canucks accept a 1st and reject most packages that don't include a 1st.
Feb. 5 at 6:11 p.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: Harford
It's still just 20 points, but fair for sure. I like him for the grit and speed. A flip over to first would be worthwhile. What would move the needle for ya?

I'm honestly not really sure what Ottawa could give up that would be fair for both sides the issue is Vancouver isn't selling and need Hoglander type players for in the playoffs is Increased the only way I see him moving is in a package for a big fish but it seems like Vancouver has already done that type of move with bringing Lindholm
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