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Forum: Armchair-GM29 minutes ago

Thread: Ehlers to LI 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cory</b></div><div>I don't know much about Pulock so please someone enlighten me why Winnipeg would want a 29 year old with 6 years left on a contract of 6+ mil. Is he that good? I am not against it, just seems like while it address a need. They may be able to find someone a bit younger.</div></div>

Finding above average RHD are extremely hard to come by, especially when they’re younger. I also think the long contract benefits the Jets since they wouldn’t have to worry about him leaving in free agency since Winnipeg isn’t the most attractive destination.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Has this idea been explored

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>That's great and all but their time has passed. Barzal, Dobson and Sorokin are about all that should be left of this roster. Other teams are just going to pass them by and they're never going to be legit contenders again. They don't have any prospects coming up, no cap space to make a big signing, basically just stuck being a mid level team who will only luck into a playoff spot just to be gone 5 games later.

Next season you likely see NJ, Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit all pass them. Two years and Columbus is likely passing them, Montreal likely passes them the year after. In three years they're likely a lottery team anyways, why waste Barzal and Dobson's prime years</div></div>

I agree that the Devils should pass us but for the other 3 teams everybody’s been saying this for the past 3 years. At some point those teams need to prove it instead of people just looking at their roster before every season and saying they’ve improved. Not to say it won’t happen this year but more likely than not I’d have the Isles making the playoffs then the other teams.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 hours ago

Thread: Can Ehlers fit

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>Ehlers and Pionk for Pulock and Pageau...adds 800k for your cap but gives you a top 6 winger vs a bottom 6 player</div></div>

Would love this trade for the Isles and I think it’s a pretty fair deal overall. The only thing that could stop it are the NTC’s but maybe Pulock decides it’s for the best

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 12:45 a.m.

Thread: 2024 Outline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Flames pass. Need incentive to take on JGP's contract</div></div>

I don’t think Mangiapane is worth a full 2nd round pick’s value, so I was thinking with that excess value + Wahlstrom should cover any of JGP’s negative value.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1 at 2:18 p.m.

Thread: Rolling

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Winnipeg should and would say no to the first one. Too much for one year of a player that won't resign and doesn't fill a need.

The Jets consider the 2nd one but most likely Pulock and the Islanders don't.</div></div>

As an Isles fan I’d definitely take that for Pulock but maybe I’m too optimistic for Perfetti. I think this is a perfect deal for both teams with the only thing in the way being the Pulock NTC, and even with that he’s from nearby so it’s reasonable he may wave. If Lou is in office is probably the deciding factor, because if he’s gone there’s most likely going to be a lot of movement within the team, and Pulock might think it’s for the best to leave.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 1:31 p.m.

Thread: if you are going to trade with the Islanders

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>So let's make a deal:

Pageau ($5M × 2 years - 31 years old)
82GP, 11G, 22A, 33P, 55.4 FO%
EV: 12:29, 44.16 GF%, 46.54 xGF%
PP: 1:31, 1.0 P/60
PK: 1:54, 7.94 GA/60, 8.40 xGA/60

Evans ($1.7M × 1 year - 27 years old)
82GP, 7G, 21A, 28P, 52.2 FO%
EV: 12:42, 44.74 GF%, 44.07 xGF%
PP: n/a
PK: 3:10, 9.32 GA/60, 10.74 xGA/60

You get a cheaper and younger replacement for Pageau (frees up $3.3M to invest elsewhere).

We get a local player and some sort of compensation for the contract.</div></div>

I’d be fine with a trade like that but what would the trade compensation be?

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 9:46 a.m.

Thread: What If Not Horvat

Holy overpay, I know Peterson is amazing but Dobson, Horvat, AND a first is a little much

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9 at 12:12 a.m.

Thread: Expensive players who could go for below market value comment extra players

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>If you can get Dubois but don't really want him Calgary might be willing to swap Huberdeau for him. The problem is he has a full NMC so that probably won't happen. In fact all 3 players have a full NMC.</div></div>

Yea that’s the problem with these types of players, cause when they’re contracts become an albatross the teams become willing to move them but the player probably doesn’t wanna move again. It’d probably have to be a player from a bad team so he has an incentive to move and win.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8 at 6:45 p.m.

Thread: My dream short term retool DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

I’d do a Pelech for Chychrun swap

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8 at 11:50 a.m.

Thread: Sabres next year

I think Isles management would rather just hold onto Brock than take that package. I honestly doubt they’d move him this off-season but if it’s for a good package I wouldn’t be opposed to it.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 6 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: Islanders

As much as I’d love Gaudreau, he’s already getting older and the contract is not looking great. At this point Idk if you’re gonna get any serious assets back but trading him would save money for the future. I could maybe see a Lee & Paguea trade for him, or Lee for Gaudreau with a couple mil retained.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 12:55 p.m.

Thread: Summer dreaming I know its a long stretch

Isles are already 3 deep on RHD so there isn’t really a need for Kovacevic at the moment

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 2 at 4:34 p.m.

Thread: unrealistic offszn

Islanders aren’t trading Romanov, and especially not to get older at the position. We already gave up assets to get him and he’s been a good paring with Dobson

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24 at 9:06 p.m.

Thread: Reinbacher youre a stud

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Who_is_Jimmy_Stu</b></div><div>no chance the Islanders do that</div></div>

Agree, would rather just hold onto him

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22 at 11:56 p.m.

Thread: Optimistic retool with Lou gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Lee for 2x$4 gets more than that 100000%. Statistically the unluckiest player in the NHL this season. If we cant get a 1st for him at that much retention then I don't want to move him. Many easier ways to dump cap</div></div>

I think he’s just not the skilled player he used to be and part of his unluckiness is just being slower to pucks around the crease. Value wise I think we might be able to get a 2nd, but I don’t think teams are gonna be begging to get him so he probably gets a 3rd. Plus we’d be signing Duclair with the free money so I think it’d be well worth it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 5:26 p.m.

Thread: My Take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>ya pulock has bad defensive metrics. no thanks picks are meaningless 3rd and 4th round.
Norris is far far better than pageau when he is healthy</div></div>

Norris is also getting paid 3mil more for 5 more years than Pageau. Plus he's extremely injury prone. I wouldn't want to touch him at all

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: reset for roy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>joshelkin</b></div><div>I'll take it a step further. Why trade Palmieri at all? He's been fantastic under Roy. Best forward not named Barzal or Horvat. There are guys in the top-9F group who should be moved on from. Palms is not one of them</div></div>

Completely agree. Palms fits Roy system perfectly and he's one of the guys who brings energy every night. If we make drastic moves this offseason, which we should, we should keep Roy vision in mind.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 10:45 p.m.

Thread: Just annoyed

Value wise I'd be fine with this trade for Chychrun, but if we're picking 10-13 I think it'd be smarter to keep the pick. I'd think Roy still wants to win next year though, so everything else is up for sale

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19 at 10:43 p.m.

Thread: Get rid of lee and pageau

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CM_Insane</b></div><div>Can I ask a honest question (I'm not trying to troll)to islanders fan how is Wahlstrom worth a 1st round pick? I know he's young and a high pick but his best season is 13 goals and 24 pts while playing in the NHL for 4+ years I know goal scoring numbers are lower and did like Beauvillier on the Canucks but I would think his Value would be a 2nd round pick at best</div></div>

Yea I'd probably say he's worth about a 3rd so idk if that gets Laughton

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 18 at 7:44 p.m.

Thread: Off-season marner trade

Isles probably accept

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 17 at 9:04 p.m.

Thread: OffseasonPracticeNYI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>isn't JGP a cap dump?</div></div>

I wouldn't necessarily say so. He's been playing very well recently and I don't think Lou would move him as a cap dump. He definitely won't fit certain teams but he's still a valuable player, maybe at neutral value.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 12 at 2:14 p.m.

Thread: Alter the DNA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JDHockey</b></div><div>I would agree. But I think this makes Pulock (higher cap than Carlo) expendable for forward help, and the possibility to flip the picks if need be.</div></div>

The Isles will never trade barzal, and especially to the Bruins. I don't get this logic of trading Barzal, to then trade Pulock for another forward who would just have to fill Barzal's spot. The Isles aren't entertaining any trades for Barzal, Horvat, Dobson, or Sorokin

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 7:18 p.m.

Thread: NYI Draft Day Blockbuster

I feel like the Isles would have to take this but I don't know how realistic it is that Winnipeg trades Connor. This is one of the more realistic ones since we'd be getting a Pulock replacement in return.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 4:04 p.m.

Thread: Jets next year revised

Isles aren’t realistically trading Pulock, at least for the next few seasons when his NTC ends plus they’re still trying to win now. Just doesn’t make much sense especially when they don’t have a replacement waiting

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 1:14 p.m.

Thread: pens rebuild time just making them young

Islanders easily decline, and I doubt that contract ages well at all.

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