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ItsTheCracken
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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2023 at 3:30 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2023 at 11:38 p.m.
Thread: Holland Masterclass
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldSchool</b></div><div>That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. So according to "Rob32sjsharks" a 30 goal scorer isn't a 30 goal scorer unless he's a multi-time 30 goal scorer. Let me break it down really simply for you. A guy who scores 30 goals is a 30 goal scorer, especially one who did it in 60 games. A guy who scores 30 goals 2-3 times is a multi-time 30 goal scorer. This is literally factual information.

As for the rest of your points which fail to include any context or the other things you left out which don't suit your narrative.

TK was 25 when the season start and he wouldn't be the first or last player to have his breakout season in his mid 20's. Not even close in fact as most guys take a few years to get that point. Second he had a bad season in 21-22 and yet he still managed 52 points. The year prior where he had 11 goals was in a 50 game covid shortened season which you just happened to leave out of the equation. You also left out that the three years prior while in his early 20's he had three straight 24 goal seasons/45+ point seasons including 24 goals and 61 points in 66 games in 19-20.

So if we want to take the entire picture into consideration and not just cherry pick what suits the narrative. TK is a 30 goal scorer. TK has several 24 goal seasons in his early 20's. TK was a first round pick so there is pedigree and upside to think that his last season was indicative of where he will be moving forward, and he is just entering his prime having turned 26 in the spring so his best f ew years are yet to come.

In case you are wondering, yes I did just drop a mic.</div></div>


Let me pick the mic back up!
A guy who scored 30 goals once is not considered a 30 goal scorer. Does he have that potential? Yes! But until you have more than one season doing it you’re not a 30 goal winger. You’re a winger who had a 30 goal season. When you call a guy a 30 goal guy that means he’s done it multiple times and it’s what you should expect! A guy does it once and you don’t know for a fact if he ever gets back there.

That’s not dumb it’s logic? Is Karlsson a 100 point defensemen or is he a defenseman who scored a 100 points once? Now he does it again next year and he is considered a 100 point D man.

As for TK is he a very good winger? Absolutely, but for your reference yes players popping off in their 25/26 seasons is very typical! Its most athletes peak prime years. Do I think TK will score 30+ in a season again? I would bet money on it! Is he a ppg guy, not quite but still a top line guy.

As for your ask of a top prospect and 2 1sts that’s a tad high is all I said. And justifiably Meier IS a 30 goal guy who just scored 40 last year, and Debrincat is a 35+ guy who also has a 40 goal season (see how I’m. It calling them 40 goal guys, cause it needs to happen more than once to be considered one) and both got about the same to slightly less than your asking. A 1st plus a 2nd and a good prospect is more realistic.

I’ll hand the mic back for your rebuttal
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2023 at 9:55 p.m.