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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
Thread: Domi but not for brodin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>The only part about Domi in their assessment that I agree with is that they don't NEED to move him. However, I would have to say his value has peaked and will be on the decline, so I make these trades actually for their benefit. Domi is a 2nd liner at best... a 40 -50 point support guy... he isn't carrying a line.

His value should be around the same as what VGK traded Tatar for... a first, second and third. Greenway holds the value of a first, Stalock a 3rd (and fills a desperate need for MTL), and potentially a pair of 2nds if he lives up to the supposed value he carries.

It's funny how if a mediocre to average player spends any time with the Habs their value suddenly skyrockets. If MTL was BUYING Domi from any other team, I bet they'd be doing it for a pair of 2nds and that's all.</div></div>

Glass houses man, you talk about MTL fans overvaluing players while saying Greenway, a 23 year old bottom 6 winger, is worth a 1st. And Stalock doesn't really do much, at least until part way into the season considering Primeau and the signing of Demchenko.
Also, Domi has, based on points per game, been on pace for 50 every season but 1, so saying 40-50 point guy comes off as an undersell, even if it's accurate do him having some injury issues. I mean he was on pace for 50 this season and even non MTL fans are saying it was a down season, not just a regression but a down season. Domi is better, younger, and an RFA when compared to Tatar at the time of the Vegas trade, so he would be worth more.
A comparison would be Lehkonen, Juulsen and a 2nd for Brodin, Wild fans would be rightly insulted.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2020 at 3:50 p.m.
Thread: Big center shuffle BUF MTL EDM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>truculence67</b></div><div>Davies is an nhl-ready puck moving LHD. He’d slot in very well on Montreal’s third pair. Afanasyev is a fast 6’4” 200 lb winger who can also play center. Not really sure how these prospects don’t fit positional needs for Montreal.</div></div>

MTL has plenty of young C right now, and if they are trading for Hertl like your trade desription says then that's another. The fact that you are trying to use size as a selling point either means you can't sell Afanasyev based on his skill and potential, or that you think size somehow equals value. Either way he doesn't fill an organizational need so he doesn't move the needle much. MTL also has plenty of 3rd pairing LD what they need is a legit top pairing LD. They also have a nice pool of prospects at LD.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2020 at 11:27 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18, 2020 at 6:45 a.m.
Thread: canes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>See, a reasonable habs fan. I knew in such a big fan base one had to exist. There's stats to back that up, but since EH made their RAPM charts patrons only, I cannot display it like I used to. All I can say is that when he was put in the top 4 after injuries, he flourished majorly, including becoming 2nd on the team (among the active defenders, so not above Dougie or Pesce) in xGA only to Slavin, and really started to put in solidified defensive performances. He also broke his goal duck this year, which is a useless stat for defenders, but it's a good achievement. He's done all this with a really low PDO. His offensive output would probably have been higher if Carolina had any form of offensive depth scoring this year. His xGF was really good, not Dougie or Gardiner good, but above someone like Pesce or Slavin still. That being said, please take this with a grain of salt, his sample size isn't the largest.</div></div>

Thanks.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2020 at 9:22 p.m.
Thread: Next SZN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Set as an 18 / 19 and injured 20 year old. A lot of guys don't even get a sniff at the league until they're 20+. I wouldn't put too much stock into his teen scoring rates.</div></div>

True, but that is his proven on ice value as an NHLer right now. My offer based on that is what I stated earlier a late round pick, and his potential and a strong showing in Europe boost it to a conditional 2nd. If he gets more good for EDM.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Carolina offered a 2nd + a prospect last fall. The deal didn't happen because the two sides couldn't agree on the prospect. Safe to say Puljujarvi's value has risen since then.</div></div>

Like I said if EDM gets more good for them.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13, 2020 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread: Next SZN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>firezfurx</b></div><div>Did you read my post on Liiga-NHL equivalincies? He is also quite a bit older and more mature then his last NHL game, and that would be the natural progression for a young kid. He likely won't be great, and will probably max out at &gt;50pts in 3-4 yrs but 30 pts this year is a fair guess.</div></div>

I did read that post, however I was looking at his history at the NHL level. It's besides the point though, since this conversation was started by me stating he wasn't an NHL 3rd liner and at this point he isn't. Would you trade a 2nd+ for a 22 year old prospect that's currently playing in Europe and projects to maybe be a 3rd liner? Most teams have guys like that in their system already, the only difference is that most of them were picked in later rounds and Puljujarvi was 4OA.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
Thread: Next SZN
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>Puljujarvi doesn't have an attitude problem. This is the part you're making up. Edmonton's management and coaching staff jerked him around for the entirety of his ELC and it's left Puljujarvi never wanting to come back to Edmonton. Nobody associated with this team helped him: the team didn't hire him an English tutor until halfway through his second year here. Through his agent we know that he's willing to take a very cheap deal to play anywhere else BUT Edmonton. He wants to be in the NHL and believes he's ready for it, he just has no intention of playing somewhere that did it's best to try and ruin his career.

Imagine having an opportunity to establish yourself in your chosen career. Problem is, you have to go somewhere far from your family and you don't speak the language. Now imagine the group that hired you continuously interferes with your ability to work and they refuse to offer any assistance to help you adjust to your new home. Imagine not being qualified or lacking the skills to effectively perform your tasks, then being reprimanded by the company for not having those skills. After all of this, then the company sends you to a different location to develop those skills, demolishing everything you're working on in the place you just moved to. You also need to take a 90% pay cut due to this transfer. Imagine excelling in that second place and knowing you're more suited for the challenge that you were initially advertised and deserving of more pay, but the management group thinks you're a lost cause now and won't bring you back to full pay at the place they asked you to move to.

If you wanted to keep working for that company, you'd be insane. That's Jesse's situation. Even thinking that he could be remotely faulted for it is asinine</div></div>

If your so sure Puljujarvi is an NHLer, then lets say MTL gives up a 2021 5th round pick, which move up one round for each of the following, he signs with MTL, he plays 50 games at the NHL level (or prorated amount if the season is shortened), he scores at a better than .5 pts/gm pace (a 40 point pace). That's an easy 2nd round pick for EDM if Puljujavri can make an NHL roster, it's a 3rd even if he gets hurt. MTL can even throw in a 2020 5th if needed.
Forum: NHLMay 7, 2020 at 7:32 a.m.
Thread: Matthews vs Eichel settled
The Leafs have score 942 goals in 282 games with Matthews in the lineup, which works out to 3.34 goals/game. Matthews has 285 points which works out to .3 points per goal the team scores.
Without Matthews the Leafs have scored 110 goals in 34 games, or 3.24 goals/game. The difference between having Matthews and not having Matthews is .1051 goals/game ,or over 82 games 8.62 goals.
The Sabres have scored 932 Sabres goals in 354 games with Eichel, 2.63 goals/game. Eichel has 337 points which is .36 points per goal the team scores.
Without Eichel the Sabres have score 90 goals in 43 games, 2.09 goals/game. The difference between having and not haing Eichel in the lineup is .5398 goal/game, or 44.26 over an 82 game schedule.
Just some interesting numbers, make what you will of them.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2020 at 11:28 a.m.
Thread: PlayoffsThey wont do it but fun idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Pacioretty was underappreciated in Montreal. He was literally like a top 8 winger in the league in his last 5 years there. Its crazy.

Anyway, I think you look at the Muzzin trade, but I think Muzzin was a little better.

So a late first (not this nonsense of an unprotected future first) and two good second tier prospects, but honestly Muzzin is better, so maybe the first and one second tier prospect.</div></div>

Muzzin was also on a team that had admitted defeat and started selling. MTL's management has already stated they believe that injury derailed the season and they can make the playoffs next season, so why would they accept the same value for a similar player when it's outright hurting their goal, instead of helping like in the case of LA. The Muzzin trade can be a good base, but your adding to it, not subtracting, because the teams management groups have different goals and therefore require different returns. The trade I put forward wasn't one that I thought would be fair in a vacuum, I was stating what I believe would be required for MTL to move Petry at this point.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2020 at 10:58 a.m.
Thread: PlayoffsThey wont do it but fun idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Pacioretty was coming off a poor year but was something like 8th in goal scoring over the 5 years before you traded him. Petry is a good but not great dman.</div></div>

I look at Petry's stats, 22nd in goals and 30th in points among all defensmen since 15-16 and what he is doing this season, and see a top pairing offensive defensman at the peak of his career, while Pacioretty was a top line winger who didn't really have the support to show whether he was great or just a great goal scorer. Taking into account the value of the positions and that Pacioretty was more of a gamble than Petry would be, due to needing to bounce back from a pretty decent injury while closing in on 30, I would put their trade value as similar, maybe leaning towards Petry as I said, due to Pacioretty's split with management and MTL's current lack of replacement for Petry when management is talking about trying to make playoffs next season. You view Petry differently, and seem to view the likelyhood of Pacioretty bouncing back as almost a sure thing.
Like I said, I doubt any team, especially one not lacking in scoring like Toronto, would pay what would be required to get him from MTL this season.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8, 2020 at 8:44 a.m.
Thread: PlayoffsThey wont do it but fun idea
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FrustratedToronto</b></div><div>Interesting. What do MTL fans think Petry is worth, exactly? Or, maybe more importantly, what pieces need to be part of the return for Petry?</div></div>

I'd take something similar to the Pacioretty deal, probably on the slightly higher side. I figure he should fetch more considering the extra year on the contract balances out being allowed to negotiate prior to the deal being finalized, MTL could retain to the same cap hit or lower if needed, top 4 RD are more valuable than top 6 LW, Pacioretty was known to be the odd man out and although he was a bit younger he was turning 30 that coming season while coming off an injured shortened season that was already a down year based on his production.
Pacioretty deal was a lesser player with a bit of extra term to act as a fill in, which is what Tatar was at the time, a high end prospect at a position of need (Suzuki) and a 2nd. So comparing that to this trade, Dermott would fill the Tatar role, Johnsson is a 3LW with some term which isn't a huge need for MTL but in relation to their needs he swaps in for the 2nd rounder, so the Leafs would need to add a high end prospect at whatever position MTL feels is the most in need of help (depending on how high they are on their current LD prospect pool, and their confidence in Caufield, Poehling and KK, I would say RD would be the position they'd have the most interest in if that helps).
I doubt a team pays enough to pry Petry out of MTL this season or offseason since they don't have a sure replacement for his minutes, never mind replacing his production, and management thinks they can make playoffs nexts season. This is the kind of deal I think it would take though.