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Jake_H

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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 17, 2018 at 1:05 p.m.
Thread: Sens - Pitts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ThatGuy</b></div><div>You're kidding? Duchene and Brass are two complete different players.

Also, Maatta is terrible. He is one of those players who benefited from playing on a stack Pitts team. As soon as Maatta leaves pitts and joins a team like Ottawa, his play would get exposed.

From an Ottawa perspective, <em>"Pass hard"</em></div></div>

The last four seasons Duchene had 222 points to Brassards 203. Duchene had 44 points on the power play, Brass had 53. Whatever your feelings about Maatta are, and mine are decidedly mixed, Duchene won't bring a whole lot more than Brassard at the cost of what's been a Top 4 defenseman for the Pens. This trade would cost the Pens another d-man they can't afford to lose just to be a little bit better at a position they're already deep at, and for that alone its unrealistic.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 7, 2018 at 4:00 p.m.
Thread: Stolarz and maatta trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>The penguins are right back where they left off last year after trading cole. 2 defense men that can't play their system. There is 1 real easy fix and that is to put Riiiiiikooooooooooooollllaaaaa in.
Then trade the other two idiots out for a serviceable dman.

I have to say as a Pens fan I'm getting kind of PO at the team constantly short changing fans to appease people. They did this same bs with Sheary giving him way too much money to please Sullivan. Now they cough up a horrible contract for JJ. I don't care two craps if he's friends with Crosby. Suppose to be a professional team, not a bunch of friends. When you don't take the game seriously why should the fans.</div></div>

Where are you getting this about Sullivan and Sheary from? Sheary was coming off a 53-point regular season in just 61 games. It wasn't and isn't a bad deal and I have no idea where Sullivan comes in, unless this is more nonsense about his niece.

Riikola's preseason success is nowhere enough evidence to say that we can start trading away Top-6 defensemen. If the team keeps playing like they did opening week he'll get his looks, but the call for trades are reactionary and shallow.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 30, 2018 at 10:58 a.m.
Thread: 1 transaction to round out the team
quote=Hamburglar44;597799]Oh, I pay attention. How many times must you see him getting blown by or making piss poor decisions with the puck when under pressure to realize he's not as good as you think? And for 4mil per year, it makes it worse. Maybe his salary is my focal point bc I expect more for that price. Imo he's a 3mil player and yes that 1mil makes a difference in a cap restricted league. That list of defensemen isn't a good comparison bc a lot of them are offensively minded and a few are straight trash and/or are on awful teams.
You don't classify Maatta as an elite defenseman yet you lumped into a group of defenseman where around half are to try n prove a point. Then say he won't get pushed out for a warm body (Duchesne isn't a warm body). Apparently you didn't the trade. All you Yinzers are ridiculous with the hometown views on players. Every single Pittsburgher adores all their players no matter how good or bad they are. You guys probably all have a Craig Adams bobblehead on your mantels. Maatta is the second coming of Rob Scuderi. Fyi, I don't think Hagelin, Johnson or Oleksiak are worth their contracts either so bring all the hate ya want, It'll be more of a proving point.[/quote]

I didn't lump him in and say, "See!?! He has better shots than Karlsson therefore he's better than Karlsson!!!" There are differences in system, strength of team, and talent that account for a lot of the disparity, so if you wanna take the shallowest glance at what people are trying to say and turn it into, "lol yinzer dumb" then go ahead. Maatta is a solid 2nd pairing defenseman that given his contract, age, and on ice production is worth a UFA like Duchene almost by himself, but you throw in the entire top of a draft along with him. Then you turn around and imply, "oh you better not wait or he'll only get what Pouliot got" when Pouliot couldn't crack the roster and Maatta is an established five-year NHL vet at 24. Your valuation on Maatta as a player and a trade chip is terrible.

Also I've never lived in or around Pittsburgh, so there goes your yinzer argument.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 29, 2018 at 8:53 p.m.
Thread: 1 transaction to round out the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>awesome</b></div><div>if he realized that he probably wouldn't have suggested the trade. But that would take him actually paying attention.</div></div>

Right? I'm not trying to say Maatta is an elite defensemen or that he's not a bit pricy for what he brings, but everyone is so fixated on the one bad year in five he's had, plus the bad moves that stick out for all defensemen if you're staring. He's averaged 0.34 points per game over his career minus the atrocious 2016 season, and here's a list of players he beat in shot attempts at 5v5 over the last three years: Shattenkirk, Schmidt, Karlsson, Trouba, Kelfbom, Hamhuis, Cole, Schultz, Brodie, Ekblad, Suter, Carlson, Vlasic, Provorov, Vatanen, Dumba, Brodin, Barrie, and McDonagh. Now almost all of those guys have a heavier workload and tougher assignments, but that doesn't change the fact that Maatta has a top 50 SAT differential the last few seasons (including his garbage year). He's a good defenseman who isn't a perfect fit but is still valuable to the team and system.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 28, 2018 at 11:31 a.m.
Thread: 1 transaction to round out the team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hamburglar44</b></div><div>It's bad enough Maatta was the ones who gave up the game winning goal vs Washington last year in the playoffs because he's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow and is an easy target to apply pressure on which leads to hasty decisions and more than 50% are liable. The pre-season games he's in been in so far this year see him get blown by from guys that aren't even NHL regulars. Like I said previously, his best days are behind him. He has had numerous seasons to work on his foot speed. He's nothing special and he's overpaid. His advanced statistics make his D-partner worse and if Gonchar hasn't fixed him by now, it's never gonna happen. All of you who think he's worth keeping are gonna wish you traded him while he's worth something instead of waiting around like they did with Derrick Pouliot.</div></div>

You do know that he's coming off a season where he played all 82 games and tied his career high in points, right? He's not gonna get pushed out the back door for a mid-round pick and a warm body.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 1, 2018 at 9:51 p.m.