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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 5, 2021 at 5:22 p.m.
Thread: Dubois next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jambo</b></div><div>Few things here:

-Columbus wants to trade PLD the same amount Tampa probably "wanted" to traded JT. Nobody wants to trade a young, dynamic 2 way 50 point forward making 5 mill per year for a few years to go. Nor does a team want to trade a young, number 1 center. It was solely cap. Needing to shed cap is the same amount of reason to move someone as a player requesting a trade.

-I admit JT isn't the best comparable player wise, but I mean in terms of return value ratio in a recent trade. Mark Stone (contingent on extension)? Elite prospect and a 2nd. The Hall trade was for less than what NYR would be giving here. If Columbus wants Kravtsov and a second instead of this offer, be my guest. Im sure you'd scoff at that too, but these are just the way these deals usually unfold. The armchair GM's typically expect a lot more than what actually happens. If PLD really wants out, these are things to consider.

- Aren't a lot of players getting traded by fans on this website recurring? Is your logic that good players don't get traded? I admitted Strome isn't half of what PLD is, but Tony brings offense and CBJ needs that, especially if PLD is leaving. 4th in points by d-Men is bad now I guess? Come on man, they get traded because they aren't essential to our core and still carry value across the league. Thats how damn near every NHL trade happens: non-core players with value get moved in an attempt for both teams to improve roster strength and depth. I know you know that. Are you being ignorant or just trying to get under a Rags fan's skin?

-Is the only way CBJ can win a Dubois trade if they get Laine for him, one for one? Helps both teams' needs if they both play to their maximum potential (and if WPG is big enough a stage for PLD)</div></div>

Okay, well i think there’s some disconnect here, and i guess it could be language based. The difference between this scenario and the others are pretty big. The biggest one is reason. The second is age.
The devils had a reason to trade Hall. They were bad, his deal was expiring, and he was unlikely to re-sign. Tampa had a reason to trade miller. They had a lot of forward depth, and a desperate need for cap space. He was a player they could get an asset for, while shedding cap. Stone was leaving after a few more meaningless games in UFA. All these teams had legitimate reasons to be willing to move the player. Also the players were all either on the verge of going UFA, or on the verge of being UFA age.

What possible reason could columbus have to move PLD? The rumors that he wants out? So what? Shea Weber wanted out of Nashville forever, he still played great. Let’s say he does want out. Cool, that’s a reason to move him two years from now where he’s an arb eligible RFA. Until then, they’re a competitive team, and he’s a number one center on a good contract. The standard, “well, here’s a bunch of futures,” won’t work like with the trades you mentioned, because all of those teams had a reason to trade that player, and specific need for futures.

Think of it this way. Let’s pretend the US and Canadian dollars were worth the exact same. They’re not, but let’s pretend. You’re in the states, with no plans to go to canada, and i offer you a canadian dollar for a US dollar. You say no obviously. I offer $1.25. You still probably say no. What are you going to do with that? It’s more of a bother than it’s worth. But then your boss says, “hey Jambo, you’re going on a trip to canada for a month.” Now all of a sudden you need CAD. That dollar for dollar trade is looking great. Hell, if you had to you would probably take 80 cents. You have a reason to want that CAD.

Columbus ain’t going to canada.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15, 2020 at 8:38 p.m.