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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 4:25 a.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>That's a horrible take. Calgary wasn't moving Vlader for a 3rd last summer if they'd been willing to accept that he'd be long gone already.
When Vladar got to start more than the odd game every once in a while he was just fine. He's quicker than Marky with better reflexes and glove too. He'll be fine after getting surgery and with more practice as a starter / tandem goalie instead of getting thrown in on short notice most of the time.
You need to stop believing trash talk from the homers around here. When the worst trash talking homers like a trade involving their team it's because they're robbing the other team blind. The simple fact is most trade proposals that are good value for both teams and meet both teams' needs/wants are hated by the majority of both teams' fans.
For all the others who will undoubtedly feel the need to comment on this. I don't bull**** and I don't fall for your bull**** either. I tell it like I see it. If someone doesn't like it that's his problem. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but I don't respond to people who repeatedly resort to ad hominin attacks or post walls of text full of lies and logical fallacies trying to rationalize why bad trades are actually good trades for anyone but their own favorite team(s).</div></div>
Let's agree to disagree here then.
Here's how I see it - every team knew that CGY was looking to move a goalie in the offseason. CGY had the best goalie in the AHL for 2 years running, and both Markstrom and Vladar were bad under Sutter. Conroy even said as much. At some point he even commented(fan960) on only being offered a 5th or a 6th for Vladar.
I agree that Vladar looked better than "I just suck at hockey right now" Markstrom in spurts. Vladar would have 2 great games followed by 2 stinkers. That lacking consistency is why I don't value Vladar as highly as you do, especially at a $2M caphit.
PS: I base about 70% of my player evaluation of a Flames player on watching a player play. 20% on analytics to show me things I'm missing, and 10% on talking to oposing fans that don't watch that player as consistently as I do.
I would defer to analytics and other fans a lot more when talking about players I don't watch as much (like in the eastern Conference).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 11:30 p.m.
Thread:
MLSE blow up
So instead of having dvorak at 4.45m for one more year montreal will have Järnkrok next year at 4.325m and he has a longer contract at 2.1m ?!?! And montreal will be using their last retention slot ?!?! Help me make sense of it
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Armchair-GM
Sat. at 10:43 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Dvorak is overpaid by about half or 2.25 mil which isn't much more than 2 mil. Vladar on the other hand isn't overpaid, he's a good goalie as will be proven when he comes back after surgery next year. Selling low on Vladar while he's out would be poor asset management. Vladar was worth a 2nd before the injury which according to Markstrom Vladar has been playing with for more than a year.
Exactly Calgary has no need for Harris. If Calgary trades for a defenseman it'll be for a top 4 or a big mean hard hitting guy similar to Zadorov or Gudbranson both of whom have been missed for the physical presence they bring.
Owen Beck is worth a mid 2nd and that's it. With 50% rentention that makes it Sharky + Vladar for a late 1st + late 3rd a B/B+ prospect + 2 players who add no value for Calgary. In fact one of them is a 2.25 mil cap dump (negative value) and as Flames fans know very well Murray Edwards would frown on that.
Sharky is a bit of a wildcard. The smart thing for Conroy to do is wait until well into next season to see how he performs before deciding if the team should extend Sharky again and for how much. Unless of course he gets an offer so good it just can't be refused.</div></div>
Delusional but cute. Vladar worth a 2nd. How adorable.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>
For all the others who will undoubtedly feel the need to comment on this. I don't bull**** and I don't fall for your bull**** either. I tell it like I see it. If someone doesn't like it that's his problem. I don't expect everyone to agree with me but I don't respond to people who repeatedly resort to ad hominin attacks or post walls of text full of lies and logical fallacies trying to rationalize why bad trades are actually good trades for anyone but their own favorite team(s).</div></div>
Chill. You are going to have a stroke.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 3:31 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Dvorak is overpaid by about half or 2.25 mil which isn't much more than 2 mil. Vladar on the other hand isn't overpaid, he's a good goalie as will be proven when he comes back after surgery next year. Selling low on Vladar while he's out would be poor asset management. Vladar was worth a 2nd before the injury which according to Markstrom Vladar has been playing with for more than a year.
Exactly Calgary has no need for Harris. If Calgary trades for a defenseman it'll be for a top 4 or a big mean hard hitting guy similar to Zadorov or Gudbranson both of whom have been missed for the physical presence they bring.
Owen Beck is worth a mid 2nd and that's it. With 50% rentention that makes it Sharky + Vladar for a late 1st + late 3rd a B/B+ prospect + 2 players who add no value for Calgary. In fact one of them is a 2.25 mil cap dump (negative value) and as Flames fans know very well Murray Edwards would frown on that.
Sharky is a bit of a wildcard. The smart thing for Conroy to do is wait until well into next season to see how he performs before deciding if the team should extend Sharky again and for how much. Unless of course he gets an offer so good it just can't be refused.</div></div>
How did you come up with "Vladar was worth a 2nd"? I guess the same logic can apply to Huberdeau since he brought back Tkachuk. Yet somehow I wish we could trade him for FC now. If there was an offer of a 3rd for Vladar this summer Conroy would've traded him.
Vladar had some of the worst analytics out of the entire NHL over the last 2 years. IMO, he's worth a league min contract, since he was playing at a replacement level, despite showing occasional Flashes of brilliance.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 10:10 a.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>Yes they both are obviously but i think Catton style of play won’t translate to success in the NHL. But for Iginla i have him as high a Greentree since he is my fourth best forward on my list. Iginla will score a lot of goal would be shock if he jam a couple of 40 goals seasons.</div></div>
If Catton goes top10, I'd be shocked with all those high promising D available. Not every team will target a defenceman, of course, but Demidov/Iginla are in a class of their own imo and according to a lot of other scouts. There is a lot of momentum on Iginla right now.
I don't even think Lindstrom goes top10 with the injury concerns.
Catton size and defensive awareness questions make him a risky play. You dont draft those guys top10.
Zach Benson had a better floor and is a 200 foot player yet fell dramatically from a projected top5 pick.
The examples are endless, you don't draft these kind of players that you can acquire through trade or free agency.
The big, power forwards dont get traded and they get extended. It's simply a matter of scarcity.
Too many of these high scorers at that size just simply can't produce much or at all in the NHL then the playoffs come around and you can see guys like Marner that are ineffective.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 7:09 a.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>If you are looking for pure talent then Catton is far and away the best forward prospect after Celebrini and Demidov</div></div>
Catton also isn't BIGGER. Which is this thread name, no less.
Don't think he's a target of a lot of teams. The guy is another midget type at 5'9" or 5'10".
Probably, very good, like a Stankoven but we see how Vegas can easily deal with a team lacking size at the forward position.
Greentree is a monster!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 11:46 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
Flyers would accept that I would actually really like that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 11:52 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Stop pretending Dvorak is anything but a cap dump. He might be worth something with 50% retention but don't expect another team to do that for you. Even if you take him out Calgary declines and Sharangovich extends with the Flames.</div></div>
Great comment to show you have no idea whom Owen Beck is. He aint available so you'd never get this offer and Dvorak can be easily moved at 4.5M and being his last year. FAIL
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 10:51 p.m.
Thread:
Turning every team into a playoff team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>Defensive pairing are off,
Guhle was playing is offside with Matheson
Savard will likely mentor Hutson
Xhekaj Harris , Struble and Kovacevic will compete for the last spots</div></div>
Thank you for correcting me, wasn't too familiar with the proper pairings. Much appreciated.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 9:43 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
Philly would take that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 9:46 p.m.
Thread:
Bigger
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Stop pretending Dvorak is anything but a cap dump. He might be worth something with 50% retention but don't expect another team to do that for you. Even if you take him out Calgary declines and Sharangovich extends with the Flames.</div></div>
Beck is a good prospect, Calgary should absolutely consider this if Markstrom isn't moved
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread:
A trade I saw EK65 back to OTT
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>That Mtl trade is useless. If they absolutely want to get rid of Anderson then they will bought him out.<strong> Xhekaj is not getting traded</strong> for piece who doesn’t improve MTL top 6.</div></div>
You could've stopped there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 2:10 p.m.
Thread:
A trade I saw EK65 back to OTT
Or since the Habs have the cap space and don't need to move Anderson, we keep everything
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread:
Could Chytil be a fit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>My point is more about that 7 millions contract. He definitely doesn’t deserve that much. Necas is a fine player but not a game changer.</div></div>
Yah the $7m contract is ridiculous... I'd never give him that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 22 at 10:44 a.m.
Thread:
Joshua Yes Hronek Nah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>We got the point you are a habs hater! Everyone have noticed it, that’s fine but come on. Stop with the bull****. Matheson under 5 millions is a massive bargain. No mather what you think, if you look at contract giving to defenseman around the league he make a lot less than what he should. Hronek is younger and that about it. He will cost a lot more then the 4,85 that matheson make.</div></div>
It's simply intellectually dishonest to say anything other than a top4 D making 4.8M for 2 years at ages 30-31 and on a Jeff Petry like upwards trajectory is anything but a steal. Just ignore these people, Matheson, he could win the Norris and the haters will still say he sucks in a vacuum.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 18 at 9:50 p.m.
Thread:
Pens
Why???
A soon to be 37 year old with 4 years left after this season at a $6.1 million cap hit. This trade is just not it
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 17 at 12:08 a.m.
Thread:
Top 6
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Sharks pass</div></div>
I don’t know, I feel like this could be a solid option, he fits the timeline and size Grier is looking for and already has some NHL experience. And range 13-25 is not a huge drop off right now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 12:38 p.m.
Thread:
Would anyone be interested
Canes fans have too high a value for Necas.
He's worth a low 1st round pick.
Why? Because we know Carolina wants to trade him for cap reasons.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
Would anyone be interested
Can't see any of those teams even remotely considering trading their pick this year for Necas.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
Would anyone be interested
Chicago isn't giving up that pick for Necas.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 15 at 8:31 p.m.
Thread:
On the off chance McGroarty wont sign hows the value
One was drafted 5h and the other one 14th
One is a RD, the most coveted position, and the other one is a winger, the less coveted position.
One is signed and the other ... well....
Sooooo, nope 100%
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 15 at 8:57 p.m.
Thread:
McGroarty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>This is pure ignorance that is talking. Mtl is one of the best place to live in the entire North America. There been a history of American born player coming to Mtl and signing. That bullsh*t, you have absolutely no idea about Is intention.</div></div>
Caufield and Hutson are Bulgarian now
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 15 at 7:38 p.m.
Thread:
McGroarty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joblow</b></div><div>This is pure ignorance that is talking. Mtl is one of the best place to live in the entire North America. There been a history of American born player coming to Mtl and signing. That bullsh*t, you have absolutely no idea about Is intention.</div></div>
Mo's a troll, don't engage.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 14 at 9:21 a.m.
Thread:
Mathesons a stud and moves his NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Gostisbehere went for a 3rd after putting up 31 points in 52 games on a historically bad Arizona team, and Barrie was literally traded with a 1st+ attached 1.5 years after leading all defensemen in scoring. Power play specialists that suck at 5v5 aren't worth nearly as much as you think.</div></div>
Except… Matheson has among the top 5 toughest competition among defensemen. He plays real minutes at 5v5 not just munchkins unlike the others you named.
Suggesting he’s not worth more than a 3rd is not knowing anything about the player sorry.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 14 at 9:03 a.m.
Thread:
Mathesons a stud and moves his NTC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You have to be a fake fan if you are trading anything more than a 3rd for Matheson</div></div>
Is this your latest shtick? Troll Matheson trades with asinine comments like that?
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