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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 9, 2022 at 7:46 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 6, 2022 at 2:57 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 6, 2022 at 2:55 a.m.
Thread: GarDaddy Young guns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>Canucks would most likely dump the other assets with 2 of pearson Dickinson or Myers to create the cap room before dumping Garland for scraps, Kerfoot is an ufa at the end of the year being the reason why he isn't worth a high package also most teams would contribute his success on playing with Tavares and Nylander</div></div>

I certainly agree with Kerfoot getting help from those two, but he still produced on the same level as them or even outproduced them at 5v5. 1 year being left on the deal never scared people for asking for 3-4 1st rounder worth of value for guys like Miller/Kane. And in regards to dumping those guys, the cost to dump them would likely balance out in terms of assets than if you were to trade Garland for a package like this (trading lets say a 2nd and a 3rd to clear cap to fit in Garland might not be as ideal for Vancouver as they instead could get a 2nd and 3rd and young guy or whatever the return is, and keep the others while breaking even for cap yk)
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 6, 2022 at 1:52 a.m.
Thread: GarDaddy Young guns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>audiodave</b></div><div>Bjorkstrand isn't a close comparable. Columbus needed to get under the cap after signing Gaudreau. The Canucks don't have that problem. So, there's no comparison.</div></div>

Canucks aren’t in that issue this year, but this mock trade is for Next Year. If they resign Horvat and want tk fix the d core, which I can’t see them not doing; then cap needs to be cleared one way or another. It would either need to be cap dumped via Myers or a collection of others, which would cost assets, or trade Garland for below average value. If they go the Garland route, the return won’t be high. Niemela+++ is a bigger return than what Kevin Fiala got my guy. Kerfoot had 43 5v5 points; is he worth a 1st + now? And again, this isn’t a knock on Garland. He’s a really good 2RW. This is the league we’re in rn, just look at trade values and how they’ve been. It’s really stupid, but don’t take it out on me for mocking a trade that is built similar to what we have seen around the league
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 6, 2022 at 12:48 a.m.
Thread: GarDaddy Young guns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>Canucks pass</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>Easy pass from Vancouver</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>Not even close. Garland was 31st in even strength scoring. Let’s see what this deal accomplishes.

Can’t miss prospect- no
2023 first- no
D man to play with Hughes- no

It accomplishes nothing. In no world does Vancouver do this.

And Vancouver is not that worried about cap. They maybe need to clear up 1-2 million.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nucksfan40</b></div><div>dont think canucks have to trade garland but leafs would have to add something as it isnt enough</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vapodz</b></div><div>that doesn't get garly</div></div>

Bjorkstrand trade is a close comparable, this is far more than that. I love Garland but his value just isn’t that high. Unless they pay a team to take on cap dumps next year they need to move Garland (if they want Horvat to stay and to build a competent d core). I hate to say it but trade values are screwed rn, it’s the same reason a guy like Kerfoot is worth far less on the market than he actually is. Also, Garland wouldn’t even fetch a 1st at the deadline apparently, his value hasn’t gone up with one less playoff run. And, the cherry on top, Canucks have been rumoured to be looking for a “lockerroom change” and have been shopping Him.
I hate to say it, his value isn’t insane. Kerfoot was a 50 point player, almost entirely all at 5v5, and he’s worth barely anything. Bjorkstrand was a really good 2nd liner and got a 3rd and a 4th. Kulikob got traded for FC. This value totals up to close to a 1st, I don’t know how much you Nucks fans want for Garland but you aren’t getting full value
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 5, 2022 at 11:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 5, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 5, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.
Thread: Nick Robertson breakout year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CoachCoach</b></div><div>There are a few reasons they won't do it:

1) Leddy &gt; Holl

2) The Wings had literally zero defensemen of value, and traded Panik's contract with a second for Leddy to be a top4 mentor. Leddy was still a solid contributor, as proven by his re-signing this summer for 4 million for 4 more years (not sure why it was that much).

3) This season the Wings have Chiarot and Seider, Maata and Hronek in their top four. Walman/Lindstrom/Oesterle/Haag/Pysyk are all fighting for the 5-6 spots. Add in Edvinsson and Johansson possibly having an outside chance of making the big club creates chaos on the bottom pair. Even though its not a perfect top 6, Holl lumps into the logjam of 5-7 D. He either blocks the kids from getting a chance, or he loses value sitting up in the press box. Either way, it doesn't make sense.

4) Detroit isn't going to help Toronto (a division rival) who has stomped them the past few years get cap compliant by taking their most expendable and least important dman.</div></div>

I understand if Holl takes a spot from the young d men, but all those young guys you mentioned were all Ld except for Lindstrom, and when I made the comment I thought he was an LD, not a RD. In a world where Lindstrom was an LD, than Holl would make a lot of sense to acquire for the 3RD role, as he is a lot better than any of those older guys you mentioned who play RD, and Holl would be flipped for more than what he would cost to get
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 4, 2022 at 12:15 a.m.
Thread: Young blue line switch up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>You forgot to take into consideration the Rangers are a defense first team, the Leafs an offense first team and the Rangers have a better defensive core than the Leafs. Lundkvist would make the Leafs and unlike Sandin he'll probably stick in the NHL for years. The only reason Sandin played some games with the Leafs last year is they couldn't afford anyone better.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EatMyScoobySnack</b></div><div>One of the reason Lundkvist want to go out of Ranger is because he don't have a good spot to play all is game. Ranger have a solid defense line up which leave the young with less time and opportunity that he should receive.

Like moxnix have say Leaf are more offensive then Ranger and they are more defensive then the leaf are so stats may differ from one other but I found them quite similar if not I have a preference for Lundkvist who could be more I think.

Even if he's good, Sandin would probably be the fifth or six defense player on the team so he won't as productif as he could at Toronto right now.</div></div>

The Rangers were statistically an average team at both preventing shot attempts and quality chances against last year. The Leafs ranked in the top 7 best for both, and in the more important of the stats (quality) they ranked 4th, behind only the Bruins, Wild, and Flames, 3 notoriously great defensive teams.
The idea that the Leafs are a bad defensive team today is complete BS; there is no evidence supporting it rn
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 4, 2022 at 12:04 a.m.
Thread: Young blue line switch up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>You forgot to take into consideration the Rangers are a defense first team, the Leafs an offense first team and the Rangers have a better defensive core than the Leafs. Lundkvist would make the Leafs and unlike Sandin he'll probably stick in the NHL for years. The only reason Sandin played some games with the Leafs last year is they couldn't afford anyone better.</div></div>

That is probably the worst take I’ve ever seen on this site. You’re not worth the effort bro I’m sorry. Fox is a stud, would easily be the best on the Leafs, but after him the Rangers 2nd best defenceman are average 2nd pair guys at best. The Leafs had 8 NHL top 6 quality defenceman last year, all of which were better than Lundqvist and some of the other plugs the Rangers deployed full time. The Leafs have been a good defensive team for the past 2/3 years
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsSep. 3, 2022 at 9:06 a.m.
Thread: Young blue line switch up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>No he isn't. It isn't all about who scores the most points. Lundkvist is more valuable due to size and being a right shot rather than a left shot. And while it might be a difficult concept for some to grasp but when a defenseman actually plays decent defense he won't score as many points . Plus Lundkvist has 2 years left on his contract at 925k while Sandin is an RFA fringe player who thinks he's worth more than 2.4 mil per year (tip: he's not even worth that).</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>No he isn't. It isn't all about who scores the most points. Lundkvist is more valuable due to size and being a right shot rather than a left shot. And while it might be a difficult concept for some to grasp but when a defenseman actually plays decent defense he won't score as many points . Plus Lundkvist has 2 years left on his contract at 925k while Sandin is an RFA fringe player who thinks he's worth more than 2.4 mil per year (tip: he's not even worth that).</div></div>

Sandin is the same height as Lundqvist and only a few pounds less (Sandin also uses the body quite frequently). Sandin is also a modern defenceman speaking on the defensive side of the game, the same way Lundqvist is. Lundqvist is not a DFD, he is a puck moving offensively talented guy just like Sandin, except Sandin is better offensively and puck moving wise (analytically was a dominant play driver this past year too, ranking at over 2 SD for stats that show how a player improves his team quality and quantity chances, while also posting decently better results defensively than Lundkvist did in his NHL time). This might be a difficult concept for some to grasp, but the defenceman who posts much better NHL results, is the same age, and actually cracked the team full girl last year (prior to the March injury he played every game but 1-2) is the better defenceman