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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2021 at 9:02 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2021 at 8:50 p.m.
Thread: Lots of space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PD2001</b></div><div>i agree but someone needs to be willing to take maybe a buyout at 1.9M for the next couple of years, saves us 3.85M but i wanna see him gone, lost his touch and can't skate anymore</div></div>

That's kinda what I figure happens. IMO trade him next TDL and make a huge upgrade with that cap space, Holland somewhat eluded to a scenario like this in his press conference today. The team that receives him can buy him out that summer and pay a penalty of $1.9mill for 2 seasons, or hold him for 1 more year at $5.75. It probably only takes a 2nd + a long shot prospect at most to convince someone to hold that bag when you consider what Florida gave up to ditch Connolly. Much better than $1.9mill in cap penalties till 2025 if we buy him out this summer
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread: Lots of space
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zmach</b></div><div>I don’t know how that works. If he doesn’t get his 11 million dollars by retiring he’s not retiring regardless of how bad he is. Either burying him a year or a 3yr buyout isn’t bad.</div></div>

imo the buyout option is awful I'd sooner hold onto him and move him in a TDL deal next year, or in his final year. I agree though he definitely doesn't go anywhere unless he gets his money. I'm not sure how it works either. I figure it's possible to quietly get placed on LTIR when you physically can't keep up with pro hockey, obviously not a likely scenario but I think it's a real possibility (also considering the impact covid had on him, which is speculated by people on Twitter, not sure what to believe)
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10, 2021 at 3:41 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 9, 2021 at 6:33 p.m.
Thread: Oilers 2021-2022 Not actual Cap Hell
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGreatBigMac</b></div><div>Yes things are easing up but with this lineup Oil still need money to resign Nurse, Bear, and Jesse in 2022, which will be at least $4M more. The only cap relief is a Neal Buyout.</div></div>

A Neal buyout isn't exactly "cap relief". Oilers would have $4.2mill in cap penalties till 2023, and an extra $1.91mill in penalties till 2025 with a Neal buyout added to our current buyout and retention penalties. Only 1 playoff team this year has more than our hypothetical $4.2mill in penalties, Montreal with $4.3mill in penalties, which becomes only $1.9mill next year. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to add another $2mill to our current penalties with a Neal buyout. Teams don't succeed with $4.2mill in penalties. We'll continue to have an awful bottom 6, and get nowhere. I would much rather hold onto Neal and unload him in a TDL move in his 2nd last, or final year to make the money work, it would cost extra picks but is entirely worth it. We're supposed to be winning cups with McDavid and Drai, not get anchored down by more cap penalties
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 2:17 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 12:44 p.m.
Thread: Juggernaut
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arab05</b></div><div>Youre not dumping Neal though. 2.875 million is being retained for 2 years which equals 5.75 million still being owed over the two years.

If you buy him out you pay him 1.916 million for 4 years which equals 7.666 million. by Trading him you save 1.916 million thats it. So you are going to trade Benson and a 1st to save 1.916 Million?</div></div>

I am arguing we save $5.75mill against the cap by trading Neal's entire contract. Compared to a buyout ($1.916mill), we save 3.834mill extra

This post is arguing that we trade Neal with $2.875mill retained, saving us $2.875mill. Compared to a buyout ($1.916mill), that saves us 959k extra against the cap

Trading Neal with retention doesn't even save us $1mill. If the argument is that it saves ownership some money, then yea, it probably does
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 12:20 p.m.