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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2020 at 4:22 p.m.
Thread: Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>if Tom Wilson's game was so important it would show up in stats. play would swing a certain way when he was on the ice and his team would generate more shots, chances and goals for.
Except the stats dont show that, at least not in any way that makes him more of an impact than Nylander.</div></div>

what a bunch of pure BS.
Have you ever even watched the caps team play. Wilson leads the fire on that team, and when they start smacking people around the game changes. It's why even though they lack "skill" they continue to be a 1st place team no one wants to play. Think for one moment he doesn't sway games. He starts going and then other people pile on like Hathaway, and next thing you know, there is a caps goal.

Yeah, wilson didn't get the goal, but don't even come over to me about what happened on that ice. Stick with your box scores, you clearly know F all about hockey.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2020 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread: Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Lol, Tom Wilson is worse at everything than Nylander except punching and getting suspended. Leafs wouldnt even do this straight up</div></div>

Except single handedly changing the momentum and feel of a game. Because when Wilson comes on the ice and lays 7 hits in like 45 seconds and crushes guys, someone on the caps score. Wilson might not get credit for the goal, but make no doubt he caused it.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div><img class="for_img" src="https://i.gyazo.com/3847c6fe6d0d5fae0adde69df2549c59.png" alt="3847c6fe6d0d5fae0adde69df2549c59.png"></div></div>

when you are measuring wilsons game in points and +/-.

No one has any respect for the person who does that, at all. His game can't be measured by stats.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2020 at 4:41 p.m.
Thread: Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>1- Lol that the caps dont have skill
2- i never said he didnt sway games or that his attributes did nothing, i said that if they did, they would show up in the stats
3-the fact that you think they exists, means they DO show up in the stats
4-the stats still show that Nylander brings more because his stats are better
5-A player can be good, spark fire do the physical stuff and all that and STILL not be as good as William Nylander, crazy i know
6- You're the one talking about goals and box scores, if you re-read my post you'll see i mentioned shots and chances against, something YOU said that Wilson generated because he went out and smashed some dudes. So is he firing his team up to go and get the offensive chances or is he not?</div></div>

Like I said, you have to watch games. You aren't going to capture what he does in stats. It's not an every game thing. If he does that every game the whole league cries and he gets suspended.
It's a when it matters thing.

So no, you can't put that in stats. It's not measurable in that way. Period.
And none of this was ever about being a "better player" That was never what I said.
Your direct quote was

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Lol, Tom Wilson is worse at everything than Nylander except punching and getting suspended. Leafs wouldnt even do this straight up</div></div>

which is pure BS. Thank you very much.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
Thread: Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZachArmel</b></div><div>People calling Nylander a floater really do not watch the Leafs. He is not a physical player, he will not go out on the ice and see red like Wilson does. Tom is a great player and what he does is important to teams, but he is not valuable when he is in the press box watching games instead of playing. Willy is top 5 in goals around the net, that means he is in the thick of things, right in front of the net. Which is not an easy place to score in when you have big guys cross checking you and shoving you out of the way. 100 times out of 100 I would take a 30+ goal scorer for under 7 mill than a guy who never reached 25 goals and is in the box for 150 minutes making over 5 million. I prefer my players to be on the ice</div></div>

one could also argue WIlson has single handedly won WSH playoff series. Like when he sent Wennberg out with a concussion and CBJ fell apart after. Also basically wrecked his career hurting the whole franchise as he's never been the same.
But you know, he got a few minutes penalty. Seems fair.
One thing about Wilson that is true that will never be true about Nylander. No one is changing their game for Nylander. No one. But everyone instantly puts their head on a swivel and moves that puck a little faster and gets some shorter arms and legs when wilson is on the ice. You can deny that effect all day. But we all know it's real.
I'm not saying Wilson is a better player than Nylander here. Or that Nylander is a better player than Wilson. All I'm saying here is you really under value what Wilson brings to the ice.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 6, 2020 at 4:53 p.m.
Thread: Tom Wilson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>I watch games too, and yes, the things you claim wilson does well do show up in stats, just because they dont produce the results you see doesnt mean the stats are lying. They sure match what I see.

And Nylander is better at everything except the things i mentioned. He scores goals better, he's a better play maker, he's better defensively, he's a better transition player, he's better at puck recovery.
Wilson can punch and smash better and he's much much better at getting suspended.</div></div>

you'll undervalue his game till you have to play WSH in the playoffs.
Of course you have to get out of the second round usually for that to happen.
But when he crushes your guy, changes the whole momentum of the game, all your players are looking over their shoulders, and your good player is out the series, you'll change your mind on that.
Just ask Columbus.
He'll do what ever it takes to win, and he'll infuse that into a team and they will follow. There ain't a single leafs player who can do that. And it shows.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 3, 2020 at 4:47 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 3, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 3, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
Thread: More well rounded team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lyle_Bubas</b></div><div><img class="for_img" src="https://i.gyazo.com/22a38670d46335051c362030555a1b70.png" alt="22a38670d46335051c362030555a1b70.png">

in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row :)

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season</div></div>


Yes dude Kadri and Kerfoot are the exact same player. Statements like this are the reason it's been 53 years...
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 3, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
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