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More well rounded team

Created by: TheCrewHQ
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 3, 2020
Published: Dec. 3, 2020
Team: 2020-21 Toronto Maple Leafs
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hamonic, Travis2$1,800,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kadri, Nazem
  2. Bowers, Shane
  3. 2022 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Nylander, William
2.
TOR
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
DET
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Acciari, Noel
FLA
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2021 5th round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
  • Mikhail Grabovski: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
Buried
  • Pierre Engvall: $175,000 ($1,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
COL
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2023
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,975,709$0$0$1,524,291

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
TOR
Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$3,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
$821,667
LW
RFA - 4
COL
Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000
C
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Thornton, Joe
$700,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Simmonds, Wayne
$1,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
FLA
Acciari, Noel
$1,666,667
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Vesey, Jimmy
$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 4
Hamonic, Travis
$1,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
$874,125
LD/RD
RFA - 1
TOR
Bogosian, Zach
$1,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
$925,000
LD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Robertson, N.
Matthews, A.
Tavares, J.
Rielly, M.
Marner, M.
Power Play 2
Thornton, J.
Kadri, N.
Simmonds, W.
Dermott, T.
Bertuzzi, T.
Penalty Kill 1
Hyman, Z.
Acciari, N.
Muzzin, J.
Hamonic, T.
Penalty Kill 2
Mikheyev, I.
Marner, M.
Brodie, T.
Bogosian, Z.

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Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
#1
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That bertuzi trade is hilarious, dude isnt even betrer than kerfoot, let alone adding all that
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:26 p.m.
#2
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Lol at the COL trade...
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:27 p.m.
#3
imawesome
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Florida definitely declines
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
#4
Buffbry
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Wings pass, no to kerfoot for anything and we aren't trading bertuzzi. Change the kerfoot piece to something that helps them on their rebuild.
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:28 p.m.
#5
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in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row smile

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
#6
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Upgrade on C but downgrade on W. Looks like a step sideways.
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
#7
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Uh... Hamonic wants to play in the west
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:39 p.m.
#8
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Uh... Hamonic wants to play in the west


He's also worse than holl
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:44 p.m.
#9
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row smile

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season


*Svdvm beat starts playing*

Lyle Bubas
Lyle Bubas
hit em' with the chart like Lyle Bubas
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:45 p.m.
#10
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row smile

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season


Gotta disagree with that one. Kadri was never given a chance to be a number 1C here. He always had either Bozak or Grabovski playing ahead of him. I hate the narrative of "well he got suspended twice in the playoffs" but in the same breath say well "the Leafs need toughness". I f--kin wish Kadri was a Leaf forever. He's exactly the time of guy you need on a roster. He was just coming into he's own before they signed JT.
2016 32G 29A
2017 32G 23A
2018 16G 28A (JT signs)
The Leafs would be in a much better situation if Matthews was 1C and Kadri at 2C.
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:49 p.m.
#11
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Quoting: buffbry
Wings pass, no to kerfoot for anything and we aren't trading bertuzzi. Change the kerfoot piece to something that helps them on their rebuild.


So Liljegren and a 2022 2nd round pick doesn't help them on their rebuild?
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
#12
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
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in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row smile

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season



Yes dude Kadri and Kerfoot are the exact same player. Statements like this are the reason it's been 53 years...
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:54 p.m.
#13
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Quoting: TheCrewHQ
So Liljegren and a 2022 2nd round pick doesn't help them on their rebuild?


Not at the cost of a good young winger. That's addition by subtraction.
Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:58 p.m.
#14
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Yes dude Kadri and Kerfoot are the exact same player. Statements like this are the reason it's been 53 years...


yeah capfriendly user lyle bubas should've done a lot better with the toronto maple leafs in the past 53 years
Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:02 p.m.
#15
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Quoting: LeafsfanMathews
Gotta disagree with that one. Kadri was never given a chance to be a number 1C here. He always had either Bozak or Grabovski playing ahead of him. I hate the narrative of "well he got suspended twice in the playoffs" but in the same breath say well "the Leafs need toughness". I f--kin wish Kadri was a Leaf forever. He's exactly the time of guy you need on a roster. He was just coming into he's own before they signed JT.
2016 32G 29A
2017 32G 23A
2018 16G 28A (JT signs)
The Leafs would be in a much better situation if Matthews was 1C and Kadri at 2C.


You know what the problem was after Kadri got suspended the first time around? Management failed to sit him down during the off-season and help him understand that him getting suspended did not help the Leafs. The sad thing about this is he was suspended when the Leafs needed him most.

Then he went and suspended again the following playoffs. He didn't learn a thing from that first suspension and very sadly, Leafs' management did not either.

Funny thing is you can see Kadri learned from that trade. I was watching the Col/ARI series and Hall was taking liberties with MacKinon in I think game 3? During the line change Kadri didn't jump in to defend MacKinnon. The old Kadri would have jumped in and gotten suspended.

You may not like what's happened but both the player and management handled that poorly.
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:03 p.m.
#16
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Quoting: mondo
yeah capfriendly user lyle bubas should've done a lot better with the toronto maple leafs in the past 53 years


Quoting: mondo
yeah capfriendly user lyle bubas should've done a lot better with the toronto maple leafs in the past 53 years


Yes Toronto fans are the best. Thanks for Larry Murphy by the way.
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.
#17
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Yes Toronto fans are the best. Thanks for Larry Murphy by the way.


you're welcome. i was the gm of the maple leafs at the time and did that.
Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.
#18
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Quoting: mondo
you're welcome. i was the gm of the maple leafs of the time and did that.


Ah the refrain of the purposefully obtuse. I'm not explaining what I meant because you either know or are too stupid to understand. Good luck winning those cups.
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:13 p.m.
#19
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Quoting: RedWing9119
Ah the refrain of the purposefully obtuse. I'm not explaining what I meant because you either know or are too stupid to understand. Good luck winning those cups.


thanks, i'll let you know how it goes
Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:24 p.m.
#20
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Quoting: Lyle_Bubas
22a38670d46335051c362030555a1b70.png

in a third line centre role, kerfoot/kadri basically played exactly the same, except for getting suspended two years in a row smile

he'd never get the ice time here to succeed like he has in colorado. kadri had his chances here and he blew it. Kerfoot is younger, cheaper, signed longer, better defensively at the price of grit and sandpaper. Didn't do us much good though anyway bc Kadri was never in the lineup or not in the penalty box

also, holl is probably better than hamonic, if not offensively, then defensively. The top 6 also takes a huge hit losing nylander, and bertuzzi is gonna need a new contract after one season


Classic CapFriendly, sending a list of stats with no context and using it to justify your statement, not once actually explaining what the hell is the significance...
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:29 p.m.
#21
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
That bertuzi trade is hilarious, dude isnt even betrer than kerfoot, let alone adding all that


Really?? Back to back 20g seasons and 6 more points in 23 less games. Kerfoot is a bottom 6 forward at best who has had trouble scoring since he left Colorado. Bertuzzi has 29 more points than Kapanen in fewer games and Toronto got a 1st for him. Last season Kapanen and Kerfoot combined for 22 goals and Bertuzzi had 21 but Toronto had 95 more goals than Detroit. Kerfoot isn't better than Bertuzzi and making statements like that make you look like you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:35 p.m.
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Quoting: oneX
You know what the problem was after Kadri got suspended the first time around? Management failed to sit him down during the off-season and help him understand that him getting suspended did not help the Leafs. The sad thing about this is he was suspended when the Leafs needed him most.

Then he went and suspended again the following playoffs. He didn't learn a thing from that first suspension and very sadly, Leafs' management did not either.

Funny thing is you can see Kadri learned from that trade. I was watching the Col/ARI series and Hall was taking liberties with MacKinon in I think game 3? During the line change Kadri didn't jump in to defend MacKinnon. The old Kadri would have jumped in and gotten suspended.

You may not like what's happened but both the player and management handled that poorly.


The one on Wingles was terrible, god I just rewatched it on youtube, but the one on DeBrusk he was sticking up for Marleau who got crushed early. Again, guys who play on the edge will have some bad hits, take bad penalties, get suspended, but they also play a huge role on winning teams. I am soooooo in the minority of Leaf fans on this I know, but I'd take a core of Matthews, Kadri, Maner, Nylander all day.
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Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:43 p.m.
#23
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Quoting: aedoran
Really?? Back to back 20g seasons and 6 more points in 23 less games. Kerfoot is a bottom 6 forward at best who has had trouble scoring since he left Colorado. Bertuzzi has 29 more points than Kapanen in fewer games and Toronto got a 1st for him. Last season Kapanen and Kerfoot combined for 22 goals and Bertuzzi had 21 but Toronto had 95 more goals than Detroit. Kerfoot isn't better than Bertuzzi and making statements like that make you look like you have no idea what you are talking about.


Bertuzzi was playing on the top line with the wings best players while kerfoot was on the third line with engvall and what ever else the wheel of spinning linemates gave him
Dec. 3, 2020 at 4:51 p.m.
#24
Buffbry
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Quoting: TheCrewHQ
So Liljegren and a 2022 2nd round pick doesn't help them on their rebuild?


Yeah it does, but kerfoot is a no, we want something better then that for bertuzzi. Throw in a better prospect or player, or we can just keep Tyler and move forward comfortably with our rebuild
Dec. 3, 2020 at 5:05 p.m.
#25
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Bertuzzi was playing on the top line with the wings best players while kerfoot was on the third line with engvall and what ever else the wheel of spinning linemates gave him


So Bertuzzi faced top line competition and Kerfoot was protected behind two of the best centers in the world and somehow he's better? Yeah..no.
 
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