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Brannstrom

Created by: gavinray
Team: 2020-21 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 3, 2020
Published: Dec. 3, 2020
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I'm a sens fan and I wouldnt do this trade as Ottawa but Im curious if fans think its a fair deal
Free Agent Signings
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2$4,500,000
Trades
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  1. Cernak, Erik [RFA Rights]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TBL)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (TBL)
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    Is it fair now?
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    20$81,500,000$80,076,757$0$450,000$1,423,243
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    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.
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    I don’t know if you’d get a 2nd from Killorn,maybe a 4th and a 5th or something though.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:08 p.m.
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    TB would likely do it, but it'd probably fall on TJ not waiving.

    Although considering OTT lost Stone for Brännström, one might assume that he's highly revered in their roster.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: justaBoss
    TB would likely do it, but it'd probably fall on TJ not waiving.

    Although considering OTT lost Stone for Brännström, one might assume that he's highly revered in their roster.


    I'm a sens fan and I wouldnt do that trade lol but I'm curious if TBL fans would
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    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:15 p.m.
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    IMO no Ottawa does not do this deal. Brannstrom will be better than Cernak. Plus your adding 4 years of Johnsson's contract which IMO will cost at least a 1st + one of Foote, Raddysh or Katchouk minimum. All this to say you are basically taking Johnsson's contract for 1st + 2nd while not getting full value on Brannstrom.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: gavinray
    I'm a sens fan and I wouldnt do that trade lol but I'm curious if TBL fans would

    A 1st, 2nd, and Cernak to move Johnson? No thanks. Brannstrom does nothing for us either.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: CoopsTroops
    A 1st, 2nd, and Cernak to move Johnson? No thanks. Brannstrom does nothing for us either.


    Is brannstrom right or left? I think he's a right which case he could be a good future top four on what's a bit of a weak side for Tampa
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: Theozler
    Is brannstrom right or left? I think he's a right which case he could be a good future top four on what's a bit of a weak side for Tampa


    Hedman would be better off with Rutta since we're in win now mode.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Hmm, I think it's good for Tampa, but I doubt Ottawa parts with Brannstrom.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:32 p.m.
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    It's already been reported that Tyler Johnson will not waive for Ottawa, And yeah fat chance that Julien BriseBois would surrender a 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick plus Erik Cernak to move Tyler Johnson's contract this is a totally delusional trade and both Tampa and Johnson decline.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 2:40 p.m.
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    a lot of people here putting a lot of faith in Brännström.
    It's not like we haven't seen him at the NHL level already. And it didn't go well.
    Not nearly the value people want to put on him here. He has another outing like that at 21 and you can consider that value killed.

    The NHL is bringing in defense men younger and younger. 18-22 is your window. If you ain't showing what you got by then, you probably ain't got it.
    Brännström window is starting to close for this insane value people want to put on him. He struggles this year, that value is tanked.
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    Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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    I tagged a few posts here, not disagreeing per se, just comments


    Quoting: justaBoss
    TB would likely do it, but it'd probably fall on TJ not waiving.

    Although considering OTT lost Stone for Brännström, one might assume that he's highly revered in their roster.



    A lot of Sens fans don't understand what they have in Brannstrom. Think Torey Krug but with fewer goals and more assists.

    At age 21, Krug was heading into the AHL for a full season, age 20 was in college
    At age 21, Brannstrom needs about half a season in the AHL, age 20 was 50%/50% in the AHL/NHL


    Quoting: Campabee
    IMO no Ottawa does not do this deal. Brannstrom will be better than Cernak. Plus your adding 4 years of Johnsson's contract which IMO will cost at least a 1st + one of Foote, Raddysh or Katchouk minimum. All this to say you are basically taking Johnsson's contract for 1st + 2nd while not getting full value on Brannstrom.



    Brannstrom is very different than Cernak, like really really different. Brannstrom is more valuable in a trade, but both are necessary pieces of a good team.

    Brannstrom is a 5'9" 180lbs offensive D and PP wizard
    Cernak is a 6'3" 233lbs shutdown RD and PK mainstay


    Quoting: Theozler
    Is brannstrom right or left? I think he's a right which case he could be a good future top four on what's a bit of a weak side for Tampa



    GM Dorion and coach Smith want left shot Brannstrom to enter the NHL as a LD, and in a year or two, if he wants to play the right side, it is an option.


    As for the trade;

    Cernak's ceiling is a 2nd pair shutdown RD
    Foote's ceiling is a 2nd pair shutdown RD

    I don't think Foote is the right add to this trade. Gabriel Fortier might work better, for both Ottawa and Tampa Bay, since they keep Foote.

    TBL
    Brännström, Erik
    OTT
    Cernak, Erik [RFA Rights]
    Fortier, Gabriel
    Johnson, Tyler
    2021 1st round pick (TBL)
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    Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
    It's already been reported that Tyler Johnson will not waive for Ottawa, And yeah fat chance that Julien BriseBois would surrender a 2021 1st round pick and a 2022 2nd round pick plus Erik Cernak to move Tyler Johnson's contract this is a totally delusional trade and both Tampa and Johnson decline.


    I don't read the trade like that at all. I see it as the 1st and 2nd are to move Johnson, and it's Brannstrom for Cernak and the add. 21 year old Brannstrom is a 2nd year pro and exempt from the expansion draft. Brannstrom also immediately becomes the TBL number one prospect, ahead of Foote and ABB.

    I think Cernak has been overhyped a lot this off season, but he's expected to sign for about $2MM. He's a good D, but he's never going to be a teams #1 or #2 D.
    Dec. 3, 2020 at 3:43 p.m.
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    I don't think I'd do it if it was Max Lajoie. To my mind, the deal reads as a 1st + 2nd to move Johnson (they've supposedly already offered a 1st and had no takers) then what you're asking for a top 10 D prospect for a who is a 4/5 D who is capable of playing on any D pair. Cernak is definitely a nice piece, but he's not close to being worth a piece like Brannstrom especially with the cap crunch Tampa is under. I don't think Cernak's trade value is especially high.
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