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MitchJr

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Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 11:26 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 2:04 p.m.
Thread: Retaining Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>Look at the Leafs lineup and then look at Chicago. You put Robertson in Chicago and his numbers drop significantly. Factor in the frequent injuries and we can quantify his value to Chicago, which is nothing. Its been said repeatedly on this forum, Chicago has zero need for another undersized winger. Robertson might have value to another team, but he does absolutely nothing for Chicago.</div></div>

No offense, but pretty much anyone would be an upgrade on the roster you have currently. But I get it - you’re rebuilding you have young prospects coming similar to Robertson - so trade makes no sense for Hawks. And agree to disagree, Robertson will be a scorer (25-30) in this league - assuming he can stay healthy 🤞.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:54 p.m.
Thread: Retaining Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>Young cost controlled RFA sounds exactly like something the Leafs should be hanging onto considering their cap problems. Yet, you guys keep trying to dump these players in every ACGM. So maybe they don't have the value you think they do.</div></div>

Leafs nation is big - think Blackhawks fans and multiply by a lot - so there is a wide range of opinions.
Always weird to me that rival fans reference Leaf fans like we are a collective - there is no consensus amongst Leaf fans on almost anything; just too big a group and then you throw in the frustration of recent playoff exits, well… you get a lot of different opinions. I like Robertson and don’t think the leafs should move him but stating that some Leaf fans do and claiming that is somehow an indication of his value is pretty weak. Some Leaf fans want to dump Marner for FC, some have advocated trading Matthews and/or Nylander 🤯. Like I said the bigger the fanbase, the more individuals you get with extreme opinions
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:34 p.m.
Thread: 24-25 Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Murphy is easily worth what is likely to be a late 1st two years from now, and there are protections that can be included for that. Especially if there is retention involved. This has long been a consensus between fans here on CF.

As for JT, I think there is a chance that, if they sit down with him and have a frank conversation about him, his contract and his future. They could convince him to waive the last year of his contract so they can make the changes they need to make and for the opportunity to play with a young budding star and then come back and retire as a Leaf on a discount contract. If he doesn't waive and help the team out, I could see that souring their relationship and them moving on from him entirely. Then he would have to make the choice to either retire or move to a new team anyway. Which is a decision I think he would like to avoid, with his family being so established in TOR.

Should TOR blame him for not waiving? No. They signed him, it's a contractual obligation that he has every right to uphold and stay put. You can't blame any player for exercising their clause firmly. But, for the good of TOR's future and if he wants to finish his career there while strategically helping them, it might be a smart move.</div></div>

No such thing as consensus on cap friendly 😂; I’d rather herd cats. For example - in no world is Murphy worth a 1st; he’s bottom pair on a competitive team. Even with retention, why would anyone burn a 1st - let alone a team like Leafs who have so few draft picks. Just sign a comparable (or better) player in FA
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:06 p.m.
Thread: 24-25 Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Obviously you just ignored my response. You are still operating under the guise that the trade is JT for Murphy. It isn't. They are two separate trades taking place within the same transaction. Tavares does not have positive value at his full cap hit and TOR cannot afford to retain and still make the changes that they need to make.</div></div>

I responded to another user, before your response so 🤷🏻. Tavares is still a very good nhl player but not worth his cap hit - we agree. To a team like Hawks - where cap doesn’t matter, he would be a great addition - similar idea to (but even better than) overpaying Foligno or Perry. Especially when you consider his actual salary is significantly less than cap hit.
But he’s most likely not waiving to go to Chicago and there is no chance Leafs retain, so moot point.
Murphy is in no way worth a 1st, Leafs can simply sign better or comparable player in FA