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Calgary Flames
Dec. 1, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
Thread:
And So I Hear I Was Wrong
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Well looks like my predictions regarding Zadorov were wrong, so I guess I need to apologize…….……............................................................................…... to absolutely nobody lol
Look at the Vultures and Grease Rats coming out of the woodwork at me now lol. It’s hilarious to read the comments. Ppl who don’t even know me have been holding grudges this whole time and are clearly irritated by my existence on this site lol. I’m so far under their skin and obviously live #RentFree in all of their heads. I love it!
Now down to business. We have yet another Conroy L here. It was a horrendous Trade and clearly, 'm not the only one who believes this...
According to Professional Hockey Analysts and the Media, the Zadorov Trade is considered an absolute "Steal" or "Home Run" of a deal by the Canucks....
Consider the Results compiled by CapFriendly's Poll on here too:
<strong>Zadorov Trade:</strong> <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/779130">Zadorov CapFriendly Trade Poll</a>
2% Say it Favored CGY (you 2 guys are ABSOLUTELY CRAZY)
21.5% Say it Was A Fair Trade
<strong>76% Say it Favored VAN</strong>
<strong>Toffoli Trade:</strong> <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/733502">Toffoli CapFriendly Trade Poll</a>
26.5% Say it Favored CGY
20% Say it Was A Fair Trade
<strong>73% Say it Favored NJD</strong>
<strong>The vast majority = 3 out of 4 ppl agree these were Giveaways by Conroy and the Flames got Fleeced yet again….
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Now a bunch of morons are going around absolutely giddy that Zadorov was suggested to go for a 1st and didn’t…. Let’s be clear, any and all trades that had Zadorov returning a 1st+ were if he was Traded at the Deadline with 50-75% Retention. I also said UNRETAINED he was worth a 2nd + 3rd + Sweetener
I figured IF he was Traded. It was going to be at the Deadline when his value would be highest, obviously I was wrong on that part, but I did also point out the progression of Player Trade Values in the Off/Mid-Season=LOW compared to the Trade Deadline=HIGH
Overall this was another Terrible Conroy Trade and the majority agree he should have fetched at least a 2nd Unretained. I’m starting to think Conroy’s an idiot and might have been a terrible decision as GM. Either that or those guys were gonna be so toxic he had to move them out. I don’t know, just sucks. Bad Trade and I hope Conroy has plan for this "Valuable" Cap Space, cause we should have received a return closer to my suggestions</div></div>
That's a whole lot of defensive whining. A smart person would learn from his bias.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 30, 2023 at 6:15 p.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>So nothing then!?... At least, I'm finding some professional opinions to support my argument, you aren't providing a thing</div></div>
Lol. Zadorov for a 3rd in 3 years, and meaningless 5th. Still confident in your comps?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 30, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>So you got nothing to provide or support these claims other than they’re your opinion, thoughts and feelings….
Give me a reason as to why I should believe your guesses are credible…
Lindholm’s > Horvat. His Trade Value is somewhere between Horvat’s and Jack Eichel’s when he was Traded with a Broken Neck, Questionable Future and Huge Contract with Term…
Zadorov’s comps are MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard & Gavrikov Trades
Lindholm is listed as #2 and Zadorov is listed at #4 on The Athletics Top NHL Trade Board List</div></div>
Notw how you're just giving opinions too. And being ranked high on a writers board is their opinion. Plus, being ranked high in a bunch of mediocre players doesn't make you worth a huge haul.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:58 p.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>You’re just guessing aren’t you!? Care to provide anything to backup, support or substantiate your guesses and feelings on the matter!?
Liljegren is a 5th-6th D-Man. He only makes the Top-4 in TOR because they only have 1 good Defensemen = Reilly
Let’s not get carried away with Minten btw, both he and Cowas are still just unproven Prospects
With Retention, a Right Shot 1C is certainly worth TWO 1sts (or a 1st + Top-Prospect) + a 2nd + Decent Roater Player
Keep in mind, TOR’s Pick will be a late one and isn’t near as valuable as one between 10th-20th Overall
Most ppl on here don’t have a clue about Zadorov and can’t get passed the fact he’s looking for More Minutes and is considered a Top-4 Defender who’s improved substantially since going the Flames. Nobody cares to look up his in ice stats because guessing and feelings trump actual research and knowledge on here apparently</div></div>
Lol. Lindholm is not a 1C on a good team. Zadorov is barely a top 4 guy.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 29, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Liljegren’s only worth a 2nd to me, Villeneuve a 5th and Abruzzese has No Trade Value, he’d just be a Sweetener required to take TOR’s offer any others
Lindholm Retained = 1st + Cowan + Minten + Jarnkrok
Zadorov Retained = 2nd/Liljegren + 2nd + Villeneuve + Abruzzese</div></div>
Liljegren is a legit top 4 D and likely top 2.
Cowan and minten both worth 1sts. Lindholm not worth 3 firsts and jarnkrok.
Zadorove not getting a 2nd by itself. Let alone what you say.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 29, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Add Jarnkrok and that gets you Lindholm 50% Retained, but not Zadorov. You’d have to add Liljegren + Abruzzese + Villeneuve for him to be included with retention
Lindholm’s gonna want $8.5-9mil/yr and Zadorov is gonna want $4.5-5.25mil/yr to extend</div></div>
Liljegren a non starter. If want abruzzese and villeneuve fine, but take away one of Cowan or minten. Zadorov a rental.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 29, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
Thread:
Quarter season lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WranglerWranglin</b></div><div>Straps the Leafs future. I don’t think either guy extends at a palatable number. Fits really nice for the Flames as Minten would push for minutes in the near future and Cowan would have time to develop. Don’t see Toronto moving those pieces though</div></div>
At that price I think it definitely requires lindholm extend. Idk that number. But only 1 year of concern bc tavares comes off after it. This team needs to be in win now mode. I think this trade puts them as cup favourites.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Shall we remind you of this extreme lowball evaluation after he fetches far more? Assuming the Flames don't move a few players from the rotten core offer him a new contract and he decides to stay after all.
And why did you focus solely on Zadorov while completely ignoring Lindholm (the most valuable of the 3 Flames players) and Tanev (both of whom you expect 50% retention on)?</div></div>
You go ahead and screenshot this. And by logic I did address the best piece here. You just couldn't figure it out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 4:04 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Lindholm + Zadorov + Tanev will certainly get offers from multiple teams for more than that. Even without retention or taking a contract as bad as Klingberg's in return.</div></div>
Tanev not getting more than a 3rd. Zadorov a 2nd. Maybe a 2nd and low level prospect. If calgary did this move theyd be tanking and trying to get worse. This does that AND adds 3 good prospects. Plus, if by some miracle any of the guys show some competemce, they could sell them again at the deadline for more.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Yet another in a very long line of lopsided Leafs homer trade proposals. Sure it includes two of Toronto's best prospects but they're still only B prospects. It also includes terrible useless Klingberg.</div></div>
Minten and cowan are good prospects. Definitely 1st round pick equivalents. Not getting anything close to that from other teams. I feel like Im overpaying to dump bad players in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>McCabe is a solid bottom pair Dman and is getting paid like one. He isn't a top 4 though. The Leafs should keep him in this scenario.
The trade is fair. I agree. I just wouldn't do it if I were the Leafs though.</div></div>
Fair enough if you dont like the trade. But imo defence is brutally bad for toronto. This solves that problem and makes them an excellent defemsive team. Possibly elite. Mccabe is still terrible and has been since the trade. Id be fine if he were the 7th guy. Keefe gives him 18 minutes a game.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kinger25</b></div><div>Both teams decline</div></div>
That tells me its a fair trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 11, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
Thread:
Flames trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Not a fan of trading Cowan + Minten for pending UFA's. We also aren't going to be removing McCabe from our D.
We don't need Lindholm either (of course he would be a huge add but I would rather keep the assests).
I don't like this from the Leafs side of things. I assume Calgary fans won't be happy with this either though.</div></div>
Mccabe is terrible. Really terrible. Toronto has to be in win now mode. 3 decent but not elite propsects is a fair trade for a top 6 centre, top 4 d and top 6 guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 8, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
Thread:
My openingbday lineup after preseason done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Why would the Leafs out an offensive player with specialists? That's pretty uncommon.</div></div>
Never said they would, i said they should.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 7, 2023 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread:
My openingbday lineup after preseason done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>You play tge 3rd line scoring line against the oppositions 4th line (or 3rd) when possible. The 4th line checking line against the top 6.</div></div>
4th lines are rarely checking lines. 4th lines are pk guys who you hope win their minutes over a season against other bad lines. Thisb4th line could do that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 6, 2023 at 11:01 p.m.
Thread:
My openingbday lineup after preseason done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DustinBrown1989</b></div><div>Yeah so let the 4th line be the shutdown line that’s what kampf is for let’s not make him worse by putting domi on his line</div></div>
Domi better against 4th lines than top 6.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 6, 2023 at 10:44 p.m.
Thread:
My openingbday lineup after preseason done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DustinBrown1989</b></div><div>Domi is 3rd line left wing over Robertson</div></div>
He's too bad defensively
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sep. 23, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
Thread:
Opening day 2nd thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad_Treliving</b></div><div>Reaves will be playing and should be playing
Timmins will also probably get waived</div></div>
Reaves should be in the echl
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
Thread:
Roster I wish they had
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jaok3</b></div><div>That team would have one of the worst PK's in the league. You get rid of the guy who will allow everyone space, which has been a big issue for years.</div></div>
They've had goons on the team every year I can remember. All they do is make the team worse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 9, 2023 at 7:09 a.m.
Thread:
Marner for dubois helly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JAKE6</b></div><div>5m is a bad overpay. if he wants to take a nic paul type of deal thats perfect. if not he should walk</div></div>
I agree a bit of an overpay, but 5 is below what most are projecting for him. If could get him for 3½ or 4 that's even better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
Thread:
Marner for dubois helly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JAKE6</b></div><div>funny you say that after giving bunting 5m</div></div>
Bunting has been excellent on Matthews wing. The other 2 are borderline 4th line guys.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
Thread:
Marner for dubois helly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TeddyLovesTheJets</b></div><div>If Samsonov and Marner are willing to commit to Jets i’d take it.</div></div>
Marner can't resign until next summer. Samsonov is rfa
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jun. 8, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
Thread:
Marner for dubois helly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JAKE6</b></div><div>acciari over kampf</div></div>
Fair. Both might be too expensive.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 8, 2023 at 7:56 a.m.
Thread:
Trade Willy and flip assets
Dumping Murray costs way more. And why would toronto move nylander for a bunch of nothing?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 8, 2023 at 7:50 a.m.
Thread:
are these lines nice
I like marner on the 3rd line to drive it. But I think nylander should be with tavares and bunting. Matthews doesn't need help.
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