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OilersMcRockin
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 17, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
Thread:
Ending rebuild sooner
I think your right close to the move for the Jets. I think someone said in a comment above that one more prospect might do it, and I agree, I think they would look at one more prospect and the deal is as good as done and both teams would be very happy. The one thing I would make sure of though as a GM would be to see if the Jets can do a sign-and-trade for Montréal as it would be quite the risk of trading futures in a non-playoff (currently) franchise for him to walk.
As for Joel Edmunson, if a second round pick is the value, I will be jumping for joy because that means Ceci on the oilers is worth a 1st and a 3rd. So I hope for the Oilers sake your right, but tbh I think a second is fair value. The one defenceman that I think could use a rehabilitation stint and maybe sign a 4-5 year deal that would make sense for the habs is Klingberg, maybe something to think about if a team said no to a second, but maybe a 3rd and a signed klingberg?
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 18, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
Thread:
Dman time
I think Dubas won't he has Acciari now. But If I had to choose, I think I go with some grit and speed, Kulikov rings the bells for me. He did well when EDM acquired him at the Deadline in 2020. Also depth guy and won't cost much for Toronto to acquire WITH retention. Something like a 5th.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 18, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
Thread:
Know the Knucks need to Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Calgary doesn't have the cap space for that</div></div>
They Can Make it work, if they maybe take out one of the seconds too and add in a defenceman that is worth something on the calgary side (Calgary has a lot of just average defenceman with larger 4 mill+ contracts) and then could make it work. Calgary needs scoring.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 18, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.
Thread:
contender
Good Cap Work, gotta love that.
I think this is what a trade with no Borgeault, no Shaefer looks like. Although it is a bit rich tho. I do see the oil overpaying a bit but they know there the only ones at the table. So I think the oil do something like two firsts, puljujarvi, and furthermore tullio for full 50% retention. If not I think the oil will pay something like:
2024 first, Tullio, and Puju for 30% retained karlsson who is then sent to Chicago who is paid Bourgault for 30% retention..
Those are the two probabilites.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2023 at 1:29 p.m.
Thread:
Deadline
I think Lafferty would be on Edmonton's top list of acquisitions, but for both a 2nd or 3rd? I don't think so. I think if Chicago brokers the Karlsson deal (thats the only team that has an owner that would.) then I think we would upgrade on the pick for Lafferty when Karlsson comes our way.
So in short a 3rd will be what we offer for lafferty straight up, and then if they retain on Karlsson (and whatever else Edmonton would need to get that broker deal done like a 1st) would be upgraded to the 2nd.
Both picks would not do it.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 13, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
Thread:
Sens by the deadline when healthier and trades
Oilers like it! I think we need retention though at 50% and if thats the case I think its like a March 3rd last 15 mins before the deadline deal.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:40 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Lol San Jose isn’t retaining $20 mil for a bunch of garbage in return</div></div>
Lavoie is worth a 1st in himself, he is playing AMAZING this year and he shoulda went in the first the year he was drafted. Barrie has constantly played like he is worth 4.5 Million, and you watch the Oilers or someone will flip him for a 1st next year at the deadline. Look what there asking for Dman out of Colombus, and Barrie is two fold better than him. And Foegele a lot of people like, he is just overpaid. And like I said, a 2nd this year is like a late first last year. 2023 is deep as heck.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:37 p.m.
Thread:
I know
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildfan24</b></div><div>Thanks for the input. I can't figure out how the wild afford boeser. van would have to retain plus another eam would have to to keep the cap at 3mill max schenn seems like the only one that works lol</div></div>
Yea I think that's with anyone haha. I think Ideally Buffalo is gonna do a blockbuster to try and get a few big pieces out of the Canucks, like Demko. Its the 14 million in dead cap for the wild that's a killer for you guys in the state of the North Star!
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
Thread:
How Id add around our roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CakeEaterBanks</b></div><div>He’s gonna be in a role similar to Nikushkin in Colorado. 3rd line but 2nd pp time and killing penalties. He’ll get mine and if he plays great we can always push down Jarnkrok</div></div>
Yea I agree that's what Toronto is probably thinking they want, but Idk I just think he needs to go to a smaller market to be able to perform.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Aw lighten up cupcake. It'll be ok.</div></div>
I mean you didn't deny the fact that I said you probably think Dylan Larkin is worth Leon Draisaitl. :tearsofjoy
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:32 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic Kenny Holland TDL concept
Well I like the intentions here, and I think you have targeted the right guys the Oil are looking at. Valuations though are a bit off for me.
Nashville would have to retain half of that contract for any team to look at it. He has just slowed down a lot in my opinion. I think half retention and a 2nd plus a b prospect would do the deal.
The Puju trade is def just prolly not gonna happen. Oil are activating Yams on sunday by the sounds of it, so he will probably be waived. We might trade him for future considerations or a 5th or Sixth, his value is almost nothing.
Arizona trade is quite fair I think, but I think St. Louis is really interested in him. They actually wanted him instead of Samorukov if im not correct for the real klim shady, but they I think would pay us for him, especially if we went after Tarasenko or Acciari, for a 5th and Foegele. I also heard St. Louis is interested in puju quite a bit. I think we would have to trade for Tarasenko for the cap to work for the Blues.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
Thread:
I know
I think the wild would LOVE Jeannot. I mean any playoff team would. But yea I think it's a 2nd on top of what your already putting in. Nashville knows what they got.
Domi I heard is close to an exstension with the Hawks but I mean its the hawks and I wouldn't sign if my life depended on it lol. There just so bad.
and Schenn I see the wild getting. I think the wild will also be huge on Boeser.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
Thread:
How Id add around our roster
I think Puljujarvi is the wrong fit for Toronto, he needs to go to a builder where he gets the minutes to play. But I like the thought on depth though, thats where the leafs need to improve, third and fourth line.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Adam Erne is available. Karlsson retention 🤣</div></div>
You think San Jose has leverage, they don't. That's the whole point in all this. Is to show people that Karlsson is actually holding all the cards with that NMC he is waiving in front of Grier's face, Not the Oilers, Not the Sharks, But Karlsson. Also if you wanna clown, go to someone else's post. I bet you think Dylan Larkin is comparable to Leon Draisaitl. :tearsofjoy
Wings fans I swear.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>I'm sure Sharks GM would love to have that conversation with his owner.
" Oh by the way, would you please pay Norris trophy winning Defenseman Erik Karlsson $23 million to not play for us? Mmmmkkkkkk? Thanks a bunch."
Doh. I read it wrong. Chicago is paying some of it. Well then yeah. It's totally happening.</div></div>
And yes your reading it wrong, they are giving up 2.415 in cap for the next five years. When they have over 50 Million next year. They will gladly look at this cause lets face it. There just crap and a first is there only hope.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:13 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sjbackseatgm</b></div><div>If you're aware of how he's playing then why is this the proposed return?</div></div>
I think the thing I'm trying to highlight in this proposal, is how little leverage San Jose has with Karlsson. Sure he is playing like a Norris Defenseman, but with five years left, and at age 32, he won't probably produce like this ever again. He will be steady but Norris play twice or three times in the future? I find that a bit tough to swallow. Plus almost 20 teams will I find be guaranteeing needing a broker to take on his contract. If he was a 7 Million dollar defenseman, three firsts would be totally accurate, but he is at 11.5 Million in a cap strapped league. And for what teams are looking for, I just think there is very few teams looking to make a move for him. I think this deadline will be all about Wingers, or rental Dman.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EvanderKanesLawyer</b></div><div>Nice thoughts, and you took your time with it, too. Awesome.
I see what you're saying about Chych being 2 or 3 on a team like LA or EDM, but hear me out here;
27pts in 35 games while being able to eat like 22+ minutes a night definitely isn't a 2 or 3 defenseman "at best".
Teams are mostly going to be iffy on Chychrun because of his injury history. His last "full" season was in 2019-20 where he played 66 games. It's unclear if he can remain healthy moving forward.
It's clear he wants out, and AZ might have to part with a 1st and a mid/high tier prospect. I think if EDM waved a 1st and Broberg in front of their faces long enough they might bite. But does Holland want to do that?
Edmonton needs to take a step here, if they want to bring a cup to McDavid, and I think bringing in a big defensive name could do that.
That being said, I don't know if EK is the solution? Chych plays a more dominant 2-way game while being able to produce offensively, while EK is a one man offensive powerhouse.
I'm not saying Chychrun is the answer, either, but a good food for thought is that EK is also 32 and very injury prone. One wrong move and he's out. Do you want to take that risk? I mean, if you're throwing that many assets at EK, and at other teams to retain, wouldn't you just rather grab Chychrun?
I think a safer option (if Holland doesn't want to spend) would be to grab a low cost, effective rental like Maatta and maybe a good middle6/top6 forward and go for another run.</div></div>
I appreciate the thought here! Yea I agree that's probably what is holding teams back on Chychrun, I just can't see him holding up Number 1 or 2 minutes forever. I think if the Yotes did want anyone I think it would be Broberg but I think ideally they want to bring in a guy like Karlsson to mentor Bouchard and Broberg, similar to what Keith did. I just think the Defence plays a bit to edgy like I said and from what I read into Hollands interview, I think I'm close, and nothing like a Vet Dman too calm things down on the blueline. That's what Erik Johnson is for Colorado, and Giordano for the Leafs. I do think it's needed for success.
Either way I think the oilers acquiring Chychrun would be good and a bit of an upgrade for sure, I just don't think it wins us a cup, and if that's the case 2 firsts and a class A prospect is a bit rich for me. If it was a Bourgault/Shaefer and a 1st like you said, thats a good deal in my opinion. I'm sure holland is probably thinking the same thing we are! lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>well, you definitly took a lot of time a lot of thoughts on this, and i respect that. Unfortunaly its ridiculous and will never happen</div></div>
Fair, I am being an optimist on the San Jose Return here but honestly I don't think I'm that far off. If it's a 1st and Niemelainen or Lavoie going to San Jose plus Barrie, and Foegele, I think deal is done. Grier will bight the bullet, he did on Burns. And Like I said, the Oilers know unless some contender like Toronto moves heaven and earth to get a deal done, they are the only dance partners for San Jose who legitimately are set-up to do this.
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Armchair-GM
Feb. 8, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
Thread:
If I am going to pay it will be for someone significant
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>deys3232</b></div><div>That's a lot of big braining, but in the end, I dont think San Jose is going to go from asking for 3 1sts to getting table scraps for the current Norris front runner</div></div>
I think you have a point here, and I appreciate the complement on what I was trying to do. I think it comes down too, does San Jose want to ride out the Contract for 5 more years, Or do they want to officially say rebuild mode is on and get some assets back while you can. I think he slows down quite a bit next year for the Oilers or San Jose. Definitely hard to do the whole Norris thing twice lol.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2022 at 12:59 a.m.
Thread:
Cap Space is a beautiful thing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluetomorrow83</b></div><div>Need more bargain contracts for bottom 6 if you want Campbell, Kane and Giroux. Basically means no JP or Strome if you want to run any actual roster and have cap space for Bouchard/Skinner next year</div></div>
Yea your probably right. I love Nathan Bastain from NJD.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 9:44 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Bastian was better in Jersey before and after his time in Seattle, they didn't seem to know how to use him. Personally I don't see him being traded, and if he is it'll be for far more than he's worth since GM brains work differently.
I'd ask for a 3rd if I absolutely had to sell him, hockey brain GMs might offer a 2nd, or even a 1st if he's packaged with McLeod. I'd offer McLeod and Bastian for Puljujarvi, which isn't a good deal but again who knows what's going on in these GM brains.</div></div>
Fair, If Bison King was in the package probably a third, fourth, and bastian, for Kassian and Puljujarvi. I think thats fair. Instead of Jersey having to pay a high second or first.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 9:10 p.m.
Thread:
PLD Trades
I think the only one that makes progressive sense is PHI one.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Yeah you're not getting Bastian for a 5th</div></div>
What do you think it would take? I really like him if I'm the oilers. But I just thought because he was picked up off waivers this year he had needed a chance.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 3:35 a.m.
Thread:
Straight Out Of Sunrise - GM Takeover 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RoyalBlueSabres</b></div><div>So buffalo is eating 2.5 mil for the next few seasons for just giggles??
I would imagine that would take a considerably higher price than just giggles. For that long I would argue that would take at least a 1st round pick if not more.</div></div>
I laughed when i saw that! Totally accurate and i agree.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 3, 2022 at 3:33 a.m.
Thread:
GM Gordon Bombay
Okay just no.
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