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Armchair-GM
Dec. 28, 2020 at 2:16 p.m.
Thread:
A Penguins Prospect Pyramid even though we dont have very many
PO-Joseph is an A- prospect. A top 100 prospect on any top 100 list out there.
Poulin is an “A” prospect.
I agree Legare, O’Connor and Maniscalco are all “B-“ prospect. Legare might be a “B” b/c of his NHL level shot.
I would put Blomqvist, Clang, Lee, Lafferty all at “C+”. I would have Angello, Gruden, Bjorkqvist, Almeida, Svejkovsky, Caulfield(both Svejkovsky and Caulfield were invited to the WJ try-outs for team USA. Both were one of 38 players invited; they are young, a long way to go, but both have NHL potential. Just being invited to the WJ try-outs means something) all at “C” prospects.
The biggest error IMO is Puustinen. He’s a top 6 potential. He’s another “B-“, “C+” prospect. He’s a top 6 or bust type of prospect. A scoring winger. Killing it in Liiga, against men. He’s a little, 5’9, 5’10, scoring winger. Like I said, a top 6 player or bust.
https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/6/21551664/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-11-valtteri-puustinen
https://primetimesportstalk.com/2020/04/18/pittsburgh-penguins-big-3-prospect-report/
https://dobberprospects.com/2020/12/23/december-31-in-31-pittsburgh-penguins/
Copy and paste these articles and read up on him alittle more. The 2nd article has him as our 3rd best prospect.
I would rank the Pens prospects, Poulin, PO-Joseph, Legare, Maniscalco, O’Connor, Puustinen, C.Lee, Blomqvist, Clang, Bjorkqvist, J.Caulfield, Svejkovsky, Gruden, J.Almeida, Bellerive, Zohorna.
Lafferty and Angello are graduated from prospect to NHL players, bottom 6 players. Both good two-way players that can chip in scoring some.
I don’t have much faith at all in Reilly, Phillips, Almari. I think all 3 are career AHL d-men. NHL depth, injury call-ups at best.
I do like E.Larmi though. I would put him as a “C”, “C-“ prospect. I think he’s a future NHL back-up. Or AHL stater, 3rd goalie in the organization type at worst.
Puustinen is way too low though. If he makes the NHL. He’ll be a top 6 winger and Be a 2nd PP player.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 12, 2020 at 12:46 a.m.
Thread:
2023
Amirov won’t be ready until he is 23-24-25 IMO. And he’s a top 6 or bust right..?? I’m Not a leafs hater either!!
ILove what Dbas dis this year In FA. And loved the Hirvonen and Topi N. Picks. Just not a fan of the Amirov pick. Actually hate it!! I would much rather at 15 them taken C.Zary, Hendrix Lapierre, K.Guhle(who was drafted 16th) or that big, defensive D-man NYR got, B.Schnieder I don’t think Amirov can start on the 3rd line, typically a defensive and checking line with some scoring. Amirov has to win a top 6 spot or he’ll be a bust. Besides him, Dubas has done great this offseason. He should have traded back in the 1st round and picked C.Zary, H.Lapeirre or B.Schiender.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 10:05 p.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>There is a general rule I learned in hockey growing up playing.
It's easier to switch to your natural side. This is why it's easier for people to go from L to R. But harder for people to go from R to L.
A lot of Right handed guys shoot left. Zucker is one of them. He's right handed. He's not a natural lefty. I did the same playing until I got to college and the coaches changed my shot. The reason is simple. Power on the shot. You can shoot it harder and better with your dominate hand down low on the stick. For a Defenseman, who has to shoot from up high, that makes a huge difference. I would have never started in college shooting my off side. My shot was not as strong and just wild.
A lot of guys play off hand, I did this too when I was younger. I started left because when I grabbed the stick, the left shot felt natural, and that shooting L just seemed normal. The thing about is the Right hand was up high. The hand up high means more control when the puck is on your stick. For me playing defense it also meant more control with more reach. Whey you stick your stick you stretcher out it's one handed in your dominate stronger hard. So if you reach for a puck to chip it etc... it's off the strong hand.
So Zucker can go from L to R easier than if he was a natural left going to the Right. In some sense it will actually help his shot improve. It's just gonna feel a bit weirder. Because the control when you don't shoot, is going to be off. For a forward who is a sniper and not the playmaker on the line, that isn't a huge issue. And the truth is, we want to see Zucker shoot. He's the best shot on that line.</div></div>
Ya, I understand the dominant hand on the bottom for a Harder shot and the dominate hand on top gives u more control over the little movements for puck-handling.
The rule I was taught growing up, is grab a snow shovel. And however that feels comfortable to u, is how u should hold your stick and whether u should shoot lefty or righty. As far as which hand should be on top or bottom.
But yes, I wasnt talking about changing your shot from right to left. Just Playing on your weak side, is a left-handed shot playing on the right side. So his forehand is In the middle of the ice. Or a right handed shot playing the left side and same thing, his forehand is in the middle of the ice.
So carrying the puck down that side, you are very venerable. If u are on your strong side. With your forehand towards the boards. Carrying the puck down that side, your strong side. The puck is naturally protected by your body and the boards. The defender has to go throw u to get the puck. But carrying the puck down on your weak side, with your forehand in the middle of the ice, You have to be very strong on the puck to keep the puck protected.
Like OVi plays LW and shoots right-handed. The best I’ve ever seen at carrying the puck down on his weak side and he just puts his stick In one hand, the hand closest to the boards, his left hand, And pushes and shields the defender off with his free hand, his right hand.
No NHL player will change from shooting lefty to shooting righty just to switch wings. They won’t even change their sticks or tape jobs..lol. let alone shooting the opposite way.
That’s why it’s called playing your weak side. Cause it’s harder to do everything. But one advantage, your forehand shot is in the center of the ice and you can receive passes better and get shoots off quicker. Hence players playing on their weak side on PP’s..a lot, very common.
But even coming down the ice, u want to come down your strong side, b/c u have better angles on your forehand shot. With your forehand against the boards. And shoot at hard angles for goalies to control rebounds. And turn it over to your back-hand in the middle of the ice.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 9:18 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ira</b></div><div>Samberg is young, talented and basically NHL ready according to the Jets, And DeMelo’s just a dude you have for a year than trade when Maniscalo is ready
Once DeMelo is off the team after a year or 2 it’s basically Letang for Sandberg</div></div>
Ya, it’s not bad. IMO, I would like 2 prospects and a pick. Like a 2nd or a 3rd, depending on the prospects. But I think 1 of them should be a top 3 prospect in their system. And I don’t think that a high price at all. For a top RHD in the NHL. Still one of the top Points on the PP. still produces around .75 points a game. As a defender. And plays good defense too. He hits people and blocks shots. And great in the Locker room.
NHL network ranked him 7th, as the top defensemen in the league right now.
And he’s 33 man. Lol..Not ancient by any means. Even for a hockey player. You don’t start seeing a major decline until 35 plus.
Again, still a top 3 Defender right now on the Point of the PP(Weber,Krug, Letang). Sure Q.Hughes, Heiskanen, Makar, are gonna pass him soon. But right now, this year, Letang will our produce them. Yes, if he stays healthy. But that’s nothing new, he’s been injury prone his whole career. And still averages close to a PPG. And still kills it in the play-offs.
And letang was never super fast. A great skater. But never relied on his speed. He’s a great passer, great shot, good vision, good playmaker, great at using the boards. He’s the type of player that won’t decline super fast if he loses a step. He never counted on his speed. But yes, his injuries are always a concern. They have been his whole career.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 9:12 p.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>yeah sure bc Stamkos had been hurt a ton....</div></div>
Sh*t see, I thought so too. I kept Larkin already. But I looked at his stats. He played 82 games in 18-19 and had 98 points. And played 57 games last year out of 62 and had 66 points. And was hurt during last year’s play-offs. But he hasn’t been hurt very much at all in career. Just last year’s play-offs. And he’s only 30.. oh well, thanks man. I already kept D.Larkin. I have the 8th pick in the draft next weekend. He still might be available when it gets to me.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:47 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>Letang has more value.
gusev isn't necessary for this team.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>Letang has more value.
gusev isn't necessary for this team.</div></div>
And Letang is a FA after 21-22. Only 2 years left on his contract. If we trade him, it has to be for young players. And I wouldn’t want to take on any big contracts at all. I would rather get the 7.25M in cap space after the season. Trade him for acouple prospects that are close to NHL ready and a pick. And then get the cap space. Don’t take back any contracts.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:38 p.m.
Thread:
Penguins 2022
Tanev Blueger Or ZAR Wil probably go in the expansion draft. I don’t think Blueger or ZAR will get that much. Blueger is about right. From 1.5-2M I would guess. For 4 years. 6M-8M total. And ZAR will be about the same, I’d say. Maybe less for ZAR. Typically, Centers get paid more.
And I hope the Marino number is alittle less too. 4M-4.25M for 5 years. 20M-21M total.
And I hope Jankowski plays well and the Pens resign him as a RFA. That would mean, we probably had a good season this year. And not resign Sceviour.
Next years FA class is loaded though. I’m sure some of them will be resigned or sign an extension though. But there is still gonna be a lot of Talented FA’s. Goalies will be thin though. Both Binnginton and Raask will probably get resigned.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 5:52 p.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
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I’m have to have my keepers in my fantasy league in tonight. I think I’m gonna have to let u go of Stamkos. 4 skaters and 1 goalie. I’m keeping Geno, Laine, E.Pettersson, and D.Larkin. Letting Stamkos go. It’s either him or Larkin. Stamkos has been on my team for about 6-7 years now. I need confirmation I’m doing the right thing..lol.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 3:10 p.m.
Thread:
Another trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Hilarious. First of all, the Blues do not need any more LDs or bottom 6 guys. Secondly, he's not a damn rental, he's our player. Big difference, bub. Finally, we're in win it all now mode just as much as the Bruins are, so a stack of so-so futures isn't going to pluck one of our key guys. Long story short, your view of this trade idea is straight up delusional.</div></div>
Lol. If they choose to trade him bud. That would be around his value. Because he would be a rental. A top 100 prospect in the NHL and a 1st. Top 100 prospect in the NHL is A good take..lol.
I’m not a bruins or a Blues fan. I’m unbiased here. I think u are alittle bias buddy..Especially saying “that’s our player” lol. Like u own him!! I hope he leaves in free agency now. Of course, if he left after this year, he would suck then!! Right!! I don’t think you guys will have to cap space either. GL. Bobby Thomas and Binnginton are gonna need big raises.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 1:37 p.m.
Thread:
Instead of Pacioretty
Matheson/Marino as the 2nd pairing. And give PO-Joseph/Maniscalco every opportunity to win that 3rd pairing D. And still have Riikolla as our 7th D. And Ceci as our 8th on the the roster. And Ruthwedel could be the 1st called up if any injuries.
And Geno doesn’t play good with those super fast, smaller wings. Kessel, Sheary, Sprong. Even Zucker struggled on his line last year. Played his best on Sids line. Sid plays well with the super fast Wings. You can’t take Rust off Geno’s line IMO. Rust scored a PPG last year with him. Geno plays well with line-mates like Rust, Neal, Ignila, Hossa. Guys that like to play the “Bully ball” style hockey, he plays too.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 8:58 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>The LW defensive thing isn’t a thing anymore. That’s a thing a lot of people get wrong. Teams change their f1 f2 f3 line to line. It’s not always the LW anymore, that’s outdated and was pretty much immediately after Left Wing Lock became a thing
Each wing covers for his side’s D outside a trap too</div></div>
That LW has more defensive responsibility than RW and RW has more freedom defensively?? Interesting take!!
And I clicked on that site. It’s says generating and doesn’t pull anything up.
And the lines last year were Guentzel/Crosby/Hornqvist and Kuhan/Geno/Rust started off. They gave Kuhan every opportunity to win that spot. And then it was mixed b/ween Sheary/Simon and McCann on that 2nd line LW when Kuhan wasn’t producing. Until Zucker got there.
And Guentzel got hurt 3 games b4 the all-star break. Season ending shoulder surgery.So ya, Sheary moved up to take Guentzel spot on the LW. Again, they gave Kuhan the 1st shot and every opportunity to win that spot. And Hornqvist stayed on the RW. And so did Rust. 2 right-handed shots, playing on their strong sides.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 8:29 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You are delving way too deep in to this. You play where the coach tells you to play. He says you go right wing then you go right wing. Its really not that difficult. Besides a majority of these forwards grew up playince center anyways and Hockey is a very fluent game. Where you stand at the fave off circle doesnt mean you are prohibited from being on the other side of the ice.</div></div>
That’s what I’m telling u. RW and LW arnt just interchange positions. Very different and for more reasons than what hand the player shoots with and playing their strong side or weak side. LW has more more responsibilities defensively. Do u know why that is?? LW drop down and play in a lot of defensemen’s positions.
Again, it would be like telling a baseball player. Hey, we need more lefties in our line-up. U need to start batting left handed. And to have him start that in the Majors, against major league pitching, when 100,000 people are watching. There are no excuses for mistakes. Your playing for a contract. They are so different, playing your strong side and your weak side. Imagine the room u are in and the walls are the birds. And put a goal at both ends. And see what it’s like playing on your strong side and then your weak side. See all the huge differences.
and I clicked on that site. It’s says generating and doesn’t pull anything up.
And the lines last year were Guentzel/Crosby/Hornqvist and Kuhan/Geno/Rust started off. They gave Kuhan every opportunity to win that spot. And then it was mixed b/ween Sheary/Simon and McCann on that 2nd line LW when Kuhan wasn’t producing. Until Zucker got there.
And Guentzel got hurt 3 games b4 the all-star break. Season ending shoulder surgery.So ya, Sheary moved up to take Guentzel spot on the LW. Again, they gave Kuhan the 1st shot and every opportunity to win that spot. And Hornqvist stayed on the RW. And so did Rust. 2 right-handed shots, playing on their strong sides.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 8:08 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>^ found one. Googled "wild lines 2017 2018"</div></div>
Lol. I got a bunch of “wild betting lines” and articles about sports gambling. I had one Minn. Wild page and it was hockey reference and had Zucker listed as a LW.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 8:02 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>Sorry, but you are wrong. I live in Minneapolis and follow them. He played on a Parise-Staal-Zucker for a good ole while. Google harder or don't bother and just trust me here. Another useful tip: Yahoo sports only gives a guy LW/RW after they get in 10 games as both on a lineup card I believe.
No offense, I am not trying to come off as a jerk. Just sure on this</div></div>
No no man. Not at all. If he can play the RW too that would be great. Pens just came out with an article saying they are giving Poulin some time on the RW too. We need Right Wingers!! We actually need right handed shots too!!
But my man, it’s hard to tell intent when u are writing. It’s just a huge pet peeve of mine. I played hockey growing up and throughout HS. I understand it. And understand the difficulties in it. And everything I wrote is more than true. And again, not trying to be a know it all or try to tell people things that are obvious. But some people think they are just inter-changeable. They are not!!
Again, it would be like telling a baseball player. Hey, we need more lefties in our line-up. U need to start batting left handed. And to have him start that in the Majors, against major league pitching, and after he’s been right-handed his whole life and through this whole career. But I’m wrong all the time man, daily..lol. I have no problem, saying I wrong and u are are right!! And learning something!!
I know this site is crazy with the position eligibility though too. And I know players often move to their weak side on the PP. it’s an advantage with your shot. And I know players get a RW or LW eligibility from playing a bunch of PP shifts on their weak side. And only some shoots are an advantage taken from your weak side too. On a break-out, it’s good to shoot from your strong side. Better angles, harder rebounds for the goalie to control, than straight up the center of the ice!! U know.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 7:33 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>I'm not taking time for link honestly, you will have to take my word.
Agree, some guys have zero problem off hand, some do, that's all hockey 101, pros and cons. Not really worth a big ole post. Tons of guy play both equally....and not just on PP
Hossa is probably my favorite example of a guy with no weakness playing offhand.
Also Zucker played RW a ton in MN.</div></div>
Zucker never played one game at RW. I googled it. And can’t find one game where Guentzel started on a line as a RW. Sorry!! I wish it was there bud!! I have no problem saying I’m wrong. Like I said, I’m not super familiar with Zucker yet. But I just spent the last 10 minutes googling and reading more articles about him.
Copy and Paste
In North America, norms for positional play in ice hockey are well established. From some of the oldest training manuals to the current ones, young players are taught to “stay in your lane” (Smith, 1996). The left-handed shooter automatically is placed on the left side, the right-handed shooter on the right?
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 7:30 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I read them and most of your reasoning is bad and an extremely outdated way of thinking.</div></div>
Copy and paste!!
When new players hit the ice, the first thing we often ask them is, “Do you shoot left or right?”
Based on their answer, we decide if they should play on the left or right side. The general advice is that if you shoot left you play left, and visa-versa.
On the Defensive
In the defensive zone, playing on your strong side puts you in a better position to help clear the puck out of your end. This is especially important for defensemen, who want to maximize the amount of control they have when the puck is in a dangerous space.
For wingers, it’s a similar story. In the defensive zone, a key role of the winger is to help move the puck up ice. When a defenseman wants to pass the puck up the boards to the winger for a breakout, the winger will be in a position to receive the pass on their forehand and make the next play. Wingers who play the off wing have to receive the same pass on their backhand; this is a tricky skill to master, which can weaken the breakout. To offset that, the winger on the off wing should put their back to the boards to receive the pass.
For those who may be left- or right-eye dominant, playing the off wing can be a benefit. In this instance, it may help to compensate for a player who shoots left but plays on the right (or vice versa).
Even in the offensive zone, defensemen are better positioned on their strong hand because it helps them control the puck along the boards at the blueline more effectively. Plus it sets up them for good D-to-D passes.
For wingers skating into the offensive zone, they often find it difficult breaking out when they play the off wing. That’s because they enter the offensive zone with their stick toward the center of the ice, which doesn’t allow the player to protect the puck with their body. Wingers coming in from their strong side will have their stick along the boards, which takes the player into a advantageous position to protect the puck and shoot the puck at a more difficult angle for the goalie to control the rebound.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 7:20 a.m.
Thread:
we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I read them and most of your reasoning is bad and an extremely outdated way of thinking.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PGHBOB69</b></div><div>Any links?? I believe u, I’d just never seen it. I know how hard it is. On the PO, yes, like I said in the longer posts. Players switch all the time. It gives u a shot advanced on the PP plying your weak side. Your forehand shot is in the middle of the ice. U can get off quicker shots, and u cut down the length of passes being made to you. I said all this in the longer posts already. If u care, and want to maybe learn something. Maybe u already knownit!! U seem knowledgeable too!! But I’m sure there will be something in there that will surprise u. Again, I know they are long, but u can read them in 5-6 minutes tops.</div></div>
What?? Come on man. It’s will always be like that. Players can’t switch from RW to LW. They are different positions. Google it dude!! I promise. I played hockey throughout HS. It’s 100% true and will always be true. Any player that plays their weak side is usually a big guy, or really strong on the puck, or a great stick handler. See Ovi,, Kovalchuk, Martin St.Louis. Probably the 3 best players ever to play on their weak side. And still most don’t. Most still play on their strong side.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 7:15 a.m.
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we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>Guentzel played RW when they had Sheary up there for a bit. Also was RW when McCann was there for a few games too, at least on the lineup sheet. Not often, but he has.</div></div>
Any links?? I believe u, I’d just never seen it. I know how hard it is. On the PO, yes, like I said in the longer posts. Players switch all the time. It gives u a shot advanced on the PP plying your weak side. Your forehand shot is in the middle of the ice. U can get off quicker shots, and u cut down the length of passes being made to you. I said all this in the longer posts already. If u care, and want to maybe learn something. Maybe u already knownit!! U seem knowledgeable too!! But I’m sure there will be something in there that will surprise u. Again, I know they are long, but u can read them in 5-6 minutes tops.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:44 a.m.
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I lost touch with how fun it is to use this website and that was unfortunate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Some fun replies indeed!</div></div>
I think Bowers is gonna win the 4C roster spot for the Avs. A play-off team. At 21 years old. And I don’t even know who the other guys are. I had to look up acouple and saw 2 were goalies, with little potential, but to be an AHL goalie. Then I didn’t even care to find out who the other 2 guys are. Again, I know S.Bowers though!! Hood player!!
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:38 a.m.
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I lost touch with how fun it is to use this website and that was unfortunate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Fox for Byram? Kinda like cutting off your right hand and duplicating your left.</div></div>
And Bowers and a 2nd to The Preds for a 2nd and a 4th and “C”, “C-“ prospects. With no value but organizational depth. Especially the goalies involved. Bowers is only player of value in that trade. And he’s probably a “B+” prospect. Might compete for a spot with the Avs this year!! No other player in that deal is even in the same tier as him: Like Beer league vs NCAA. That’s my analogy. Bowers vs other players in the trade..lol.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:16 a.m.
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we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I can literally find like 25+ other examples of smaller players that have played a fair share on their off hand in top 6 roles for you.
Teuvo Teravainen, Jeff Skinner, Tomas Tatar, Brandon Gallagher, Evgeni Dadonov, Ondrej Palat, Yanni Gourde, Tyler Johnson, Gustav Nyqvist, Cam Atkinson, Kyle Palmeiri, Nikita Gusev, Anthony Beauvillier, Artemi Panarin, Claude Giroux, Travis Konecny, <strong>Jake Guentzel, Brian Rust,</strong> Alex DeBrincat, Mats Zuccarelo, Kevin Fiala, Victor Arvidsson, Clayton Keller, Andrew Mangiapane, Dominik Kahun, Tyler Ennis, Kevin Labanc, and Johnathan Marchessault.</div></div>
<a href="/users/Ledge_And_Dairy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Ledge_And_Dairy</a>
Just on this site man.. I know its long but read my posts man. Guentzel does not play both. Its just on this site. I explained this already in the long posts. please read my post man. It’ll take 6-7 minutes. It’s worth it man. I read everything u post. I can tell u arnt reading them. U would be saying this if u did. I promise it’s worth it man. Stop taking it so personal and being so stubborn. Just take 6-7 minutes and read the post. Please dude. It will explain everything.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 6:12 a.m.
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we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I can literally find like 25+ other examples of smaller players that have played a fair share on their off hand in top 6 roles for you.
Teuvo Teravainen, Jeff Skinner, Tomas Tatar, Brandon Gallagher, Evgeni Dadonov, Ondrej Palat, Yanni Gourde, Tyler Johnson, Gustav Nyqvist, Cam Atkinson, Kyle Palmeiri, Nikita Gusev, Anthony Beauvillier, Artemi Panarin, Claude Giroux, Travis Konecny, <strong>Jake Guentzel, Brian Rust,</strong> Alex DeBrincat, Mats Zuccarelo, Kevin Fiala, Victor Arvidsson, Clayton Keller, Andrew Mangiapane, Dominik Kahun, Tyler Ennis, Kevin Labanc, and Johnathan Marchessault.</div></div>
Just on this site man.. I know its long but read my posts man. Guentzel does not play both. Its just on this site. I explained this already in the long posts. please read my post man. It’ll take 6-7 minutes. It’s worth it man. I read everything u post. I can tell u arnt reading them. U would be saying this if u did. I promise it’s worth it man. Stop taking it so personal and being so stubborn. Just take 6-7 minutes and read the post. Please dude. It will explain everything.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 5:24 a.m.
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we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Zucker has been playing RW for a couple years now. He is perfectly fine on the off hand. Not sure how size matters for that, just look at Kane.</div></div>
Size 100% matters when u are playing your weak side and not your strong side.
And like P.Kane..lol..One of the best stick handlers in hockey. Ya, Patrick Kane’s alittle different my man. He has the skill to do whatever he wants. He’s an outlier. Not included.
And all the wingers on here have RW/LW eligibility b/c they are PP guys. And it’s very common to switch sides and play on your weak side on the PP. you get the advantage of your shot being in the middle of the ice and able to get off quicker shots. One- timers, wrist shots, etc. most wingers don’t play both LW and RW. It’s not that easy
of course NHL players are skilled enough to take all their passes on their back-hand and switch it to their forehand. But at what cost too.?? To lose a second. Against other NHL players and NHL D-Men.
And of course they are skilled enough to make passes with their back-hand. Again, at what cost though? Not as hard, not as accurate??
And again, most being the best player on their team their whole life. They grew up and always played their strong side. Let’s change now in the NHL, during an NHL game, literally at the highest level and the highest stakes. Where There are no excuses for mistakes.
And yes, u have to be strong on the puck to play on your weak side. It’s realky hard to protect the puck.
On your strong side, it’s always naturally protected by your body and the boards. The defender has to go through u to get the puck.
On your weak side, you are so venerable to poke-checks. Just play one game and imagine the boards being around u.
Or imagine your walls in the room u are in as the boards. And image a goal on each end of the room. And see the difference when u are on your strong side and weak side. Imagine fighting along the boards on your weak side. How your stick is always on your back-hand. And if you are at the blue line and the puck comes around the boards and u have to stop it and keep it on-sides. Everything on your back-hand!! On your strong side. Simple stop on your forehand a quick rister back in. Or even a one-timer back in along the boards. U can’t do that playing your weak side.
I never found one time, one game, Zucker played RW.?? Please help!! This is the only site that has RW even as another option.
<a href="https://triblive.com/sports/penguins-expect-to-line-jason-zucker-up-with-sidney-crosby/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://triblive.com/sports/penguins-expect-to-line-jason-zucker-up-with-sidney-crosby/</a>
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 5:19 a.m.
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Pens trade Dallas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>justaBoss</b></div><div>I'm not taking anything personally nor have I spouted a single insult here... You're overanalyzing my sentences based on the hefty replies there mate.
POJ is a decent prospect, but I have my doubts on the guy. Harley is the 4th guy DAL are investing in...Joseph would become a surplus D in Dallas as well. Same was the case with ARI, and it seems the Pens as well.
My opinion is that Pens defense is worse than Dallas. Based on your pairings I'd much rather have Lindell-Klingberg over Dumoulin-Letang, as well as Oleksiak-Heiskanen over Pettersson-Marino. I personally don't view Letang as a top10 RHD anymore. Also that 3rd pair of Pittsburgh is probably the worst in the entire league...much rather have Sekera-Pysyk over that one as well. As for why PIT traded Oleksiak back to DAL, some Pens fans have told me it was because Sullivan didn't think Oleksiak was gritty enough for being such a big D-man.
I'm not saying PIT defense is bad. Those two first pairs are actually fairly good. I'm simply saying DAL is better. Stars offense is very mediocre, and those D-men are vital in terms of offensive production as well, especially Heiskanen and Klingberg.</div></div>
Like I said, if they are, it’s not like a completely different tier better. So a decent prospect, being a top 100 prospect in the NHL, on any list put out the last 2 years. Hmm, an interesting take!! And I’m sure PO-Joseph would be ranked higher than Harley on any list out there too. And I think Harley will be a good player. I’m not super familiar with him. I know he’s a 1st round pick. And the Stars top Defensive prospect. But like I know about PO-Joseph and what he’s been doing the last 2-3 years and the reports on him, the quotes from coaches, his stats. I’m sure u know them about Harley.
And Letang is for sure still a top 10 RHD. Here is the list by NHL network of the top 20 D-men right now. Your boy Heiskanen is 10. And Letang is 8th.
<a href="https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/2/21545617/kris-letang-ranked-8th-among-top-20-nhl-defensemen" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/2/21545617/kris-letang-ranked-8th-among-top-20-nhl-defensemen</a>
Letang is 33 years old my man, not ancient. And in 18-19 he had 56 points in 65 games and last year he had 44 points in 61 games. Again, still one of the Top Points on the PP too. And still terrific two-ways. Played 26 minutes a game last year. I’d say thats still better production than Heiskanen. But Heiskanen will probably pass him this year or next. Again, I’m a Heiskanen fan!! Great player!! But Letang still out produces him at 32 years old. But Heiskanen was 20..lol. Super young. When he gets 24-25-26, he’s gonna be a superstar. Already is, but will be even better!!
If Maniacalco wins the RHD spot on the 3rd pairing. And it’s Matheson/Maniacalco. That’s gonna be a really good 3rd pairing too. Yes, it’s bad with Ceci, Ruthwedel platoon at RHD. But the 3rd pairing will only play 8-14 minutes a game. They should be able to handle that..hopefully..lol.
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Armchair-GM
Dec. 11, 2020 at 4:49 a.m.
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we arent making any more trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>I mean when I was much younger I played american football and Basketball, like 12-14 years old. I was tall so that was just natural. But By the time I was 15 it was just hockey. Took too much time up and my parents had got me the equipment which was kind of a huge expense on them so I stuck with it.
I admittedly watch a lot of Europe football, Rugby, and hurling when in Ireland. But those are the main sports on TV here. Everyone watches those.</div></div>
Ok, I’m not too sure about Zucker b/c I’m not super Familiar with him yet. But I’m sure by his size he can’t be great at playing his weak side. I’m sure u know, but I was trying to find an analogy with another sport to compare to switching a wing from his strong side to his weak side.
In basketball it would be like telling a right handed NBA player, he has to shoot with his left hand the whole game. Without really practicing, and playing in the NBA game against other NBA players, and NBA defenders and after he shot with his right hand all growing up and his whole life. And hundreds of thousands of people are watching, and your contract is on the line. That’s sort of what it’s like to move a player that plays LW to RW. And I would say it actually harder.
The reason I don’t think Zucker would be good at his weak side, is cause his size. When u bring the puck down on your strong side (obviously right handed shot right side, and visa versa) you have the puck guarded by your body and the boards. And all the passes from the Defense behind u, you take on your forehand. Easy.
If you are on your weak side, carrying the puck up ice on your forehand, the puck and stick will be in middle of the ice. With Nothing protecting the puck. Most players that are able to play their weak side..skate down, and use one hand, the hand against the boards, on the stick and controlling the puck, and use their othe hand, the free hand to guard the puck and fight off the defender. But you have to be very strong to do this. Like Ovi, he plays the LW and is a right-handed shot. Plays his weak side. And u have to take all the passes off the boards on your back-hand and switch it to your forehand. And everything against the boards, like Keeping the puck on sides along the boards, u have to stop it on your back-hand and either back hand it back in, or stop it back-hand and switch it to your fore-hand.
On your strong side, you just stop it along the boards on your forehand and wrist it back in. Easy. And Fighting for the puck along the boards. All on your forehand. The puck is always protected by your body and the boards too.
And on your weak side, when the puck is on your forehand is always in the middle of the ice with nothing protecting it and where all the defense is. And u can see why this is a huge problem for defenders. Having there forehand always in the middle of the ice in your defensive zone!! Always passing on their forehand and it’s in the middle of the ice. No good!! Where a defender on his strong side. His forehand is away from the center of the ice and he can just wrist it up the boards out of the zone.
I’m sure u understand all this..u seem very knowledgeable!! But when people want to put Guentzel on the RW. It makes me want to scream. He’s played LW his whole life, growing up, always been the best player on his team, always skated on his strong side. Now people want him to switch to his weak side, something he isn’t used too. Do your trial run and trial and error in a NHL game, against other NHL players and NHL defenders. And all your teammates and fans counting on u. And when your contract is coming up soon. Or u are in a slump and u might get sent down. So lets move him down a line and put him on the opposite side he’s played he’s whole life and is used too..lol. It’s drives me crazy. It’s not as easy as people think. People think they are inter-changeable. They are completely different positions. Especially on defense too. The LWs are much more defensively responsible. They have to be. The RW has more freedom. Again, I’m sure u know this, but people u want to switch wingers sides. Just copy and paste..lol. People don’t understand how hard it is to do and to change.
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