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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 7:37 p.m.
Thread: Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kotkaniemi15</b></div><div>The guy clearly doesn’t care about the game enough, and we aren’t trading Armia.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jordyweal</b></div><div>ya i don't think gallagher, danault and tatar would like having ZAR on the habs</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JulHok92</b></div><div>nope</div></div>

Ya, no thanks. ZAR was the best defensive player in the NHL last year analytic wise. And had Selke votes. Armia isn’t an upgrade over what we have already.

https://jfresh.substack.com/p/zach-aston-reese-has-the-best-defensive

“If you follow or read the work of analysts who put a lot of stock in stats, you might have seen his name come up improbably in the Selke conversation. That’s because by models that track a player’s isolated impact on defence (as it was described above), Aston-Reese ranked best or second-best in the league across the board”.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 7:33 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlliDOisBleedBlue</b></div><div>I always find it funny when ACGM's trash players they are trying to add to their team.....You say we are weak on RHD but we feel confident with Parayko as our #1 RHD. Sure Faulk didn't have a great year but he is not going anywhere and Bortuzzo is exactly what we need in a pair with Vince Dunn.</div></div>

Right. It’s exacly why I’m not a GM and neither r u. Cause I would do this deal and U think it’s not close. And I wouldn’t mind trading Ruhwedel; The kind of player that helps teams win Stanley Cups. The players fans say are “meh”. But the players and depth u need on a play-off, Stanley cup team. Not Kyrou.

Trading Ruhwedel, a solid depth NHL RHD. That teams need to win a SC for Kyrou and his upside. And he’ll bust out in 2 years and Rutwedel will have another SC and be 32 years old and still making 750k a year and have a roster spot on a play-off team.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 7:17 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>I'd say you can't be serious, but then you wrote out such a lengthy explanation. The Blues would obviously not be even remotely interested in this.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlliDOisBleedBlue</b></div><div>Blues would have no interest in this. This would only make Pens better. Penguins are my second favorite team and I still wouldn't make that trade. If your looking for someone in your top 9 Blues would happily give up Sanford for a 2nd round pick.</div></div>

Ok, I guess the 2nd round pick has no value. Blues are weak on RHD. Ruthwedel is good RHD 3rd pairing on a play-off team or NHL defensive depth.

Kyrou is a bust so far. Last season he will even get close to a 2nd round pick if he doesn’t produce. And Barbashev is a bad option at 4C IMO. On a checking line. Good luck with that.

I’m not even sure about him as a 3C. The selling point was both them being RFA after this season and both could walk if they produce the same as they have been.


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“It's quite a luxury to have a defenseman like Ruhwedel to rely on throughout the course of a season, as he keeps himself in great shape and is always game ready. The 2017 Stanley Cup Champion appeared in 41 contests last season with the Penguins, his second-highest total with Pittsburgh. All in all, he's dressed in 137 total games for the Penguins. When he's in the lineup, Ruhwedel brings a simple approach and uses his skating to his advantage.

The kind of player that helps teams win Stanley Cups. The players fans say are “meh”. But the players and depth u need on a play-off, Stanley cup team. Not Kyrou.

It’s why I’m not a GM and neither are either of u. Cause I would do this deal and U guys think it’s not close. Trading Ruhwedel, a solid depth NHL RHD. That teams need to win a SC for Kyrou and his upside. And he’ll bust out in 2 years and Rutwedel will have another SC and be 32 years old and still making 750k a year and have a roster spot on a play-off team.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 7:06 p.m.
Thread: My hopes this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>how are young guys going to develop?
What ice are they going to skate on. You can't even pond skate in canada without the nazi police showing up and threatening to tazer you.

I think the taxi squad will hold a few prospects at the very least.
What I do know, is that 3rd line is not good. The 4th line will do it's thing, but you are relying on the 1st and 2nd line to carry the team. That has not happened in a long time. They need help.</div></div>

Obviously u didn’t read my description.

PO-Jospeh, O’Connor, C.Lee make the practice squad. Get experience practicing and working out with the team. And watching NHL veterans, like a back-up QB. Poulin and Legare are both 19 years old. 1 more year. Unless Poulin is comfortable of the right-side and RW. You can’t force him up to a position he isn’t comfortable playing and let him learn in the NHL, at NHL speed and against NHL players. That would ruin his development. And Unless Legare makes an impression in camp and wins the 3rd line RW spot. But I’m excited to see E-Rod get his shot too.



And like I told u!! PO Jospeh gained 20-25 pounds of muscle. He is now 6’2-6’3, 185 pounds.


https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/pittsburgh-penguins-defense-goalies-breakdown/c-319905950
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 4:23 p.m.
Thread: My hopes this year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>With that however they just seem to have this injury start writing above them through their whole career again I’m not rooting for this but it’s just history seems to repeat itself</div></div>

??? U mean Letang does. ??

Sid and Geno have been gereanlly healthy. Like every other player. 2 or 3 seasons out of 14 and 15 year careers where they missed half the season. Geno only has one year of 31 and one year of 43 games. The rest of the seasons are 57 games plus. Most seasons in the 70s.

The same with Sid. Back to back seasons of 22 games and 36 games in 2010-11, and 11-12. And since then he’s played in the high 70’s and 80’s. Sid has been generally healthy too for a 15 year career.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 3:41 p.m.
Thread: Should the Pens trade for Jack Roslovic
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Penguins_Legend_Sheary</b></div><div>And Erod's playdriving statistics &amp; defensive impacts were really good during his 1st two seasons with Buffalo. He's definitely an NHL quality talent, just needs to be given a chance by the coaching staff. The real question mark is Jankowski. You'd usually want a more proven 3C.</div></div>

Janko is 26, 1st round pedigree, proven good two-way center and top PK player.

He had 17 goals and 25 points his 1st year and 14 goals and 32 points his 2nd. Yes, last year he sh*t the bed. But it’s an easy year to write off IMO(for everyone..lol) and look at Sam Bennet’s stats. And look at last year compared to his first 3 or 4. It wasn’t just him. It was the whole Calgary team.

Imagine if last year, he improved or just stayed the same statistically. He would’ve been a sought after free agent. The narrative would be completely different. A recent 1st round pick, coming off his E-L contract and 1st team, has had 3 decent years, ready for his 4th year and break-out year. Now, it’s a “show me” contract. Show-me last year was a fluke and you can get back to producing like your 1st two years.

It’s not like he’s played for 3-4 teams and u know what u are getting. He played for 1 team and 3 full seasons, 2 of which were good. It’s only his 2nd team!!

Johnny G went from 99 points to 58 points last season. It was the whole Calgary team. Again, look at Sam Bennett’s stats. Last year he had the same anomaly season as Janko. Only Janko’s 2nd team and 4th season. A different coach, system and change of scenery should do him well!!

And maybe Calgary just missed used him. Again, It’s only his 4th year and 2nd team. You don’t know only playing for 1 team.

And only 700k contract. JR and Sully seem to believe in him and he can atleast get back to his 1st 2 seasons production. I’m interest to see. He will atleast play good defense and be good on the PK.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 12:06 p.m.
Thread: Should the Pens trade for Jack Roslovic
Jets won’t do that deal. And I hate to give up Lafferty. He our only Roght-Handed stick that takes Face-offs. And is good at them too.

I think it would be more like Riikola(who id hate giving up too), and a “C”, “C+”prospect like Gruden or Bjorkqvist. Although, I don’t think they will trade Gruden without playing one game in the organization. And a mid round pick. 5th round

So Riikola, Bjorkqvist and a 5th.
Or
Rikkola, Czuczman, Bjorkqvist(gives them NHL level defensive depth).

It has to come with a contract agreement from Roslovic that would be under 2M IMO. Or it wouldn’t be worth it for the Pens. Paying him over 2M would be an overpayment for me. I would rather Janko at 700k IMO. Roslovic at 1.75M/ 3 years is worth it IMO

And I hate people putting McCann back atCenter. JR and Sully are right. We found out last year. He’s a wing. He’s a scorer. A good two-way wing. Let him play wing and just score 20 plus goals a year. Not have to play Center and worry about carrying a line and play-making for his line-mates. Just stick him on the LW and let him snipe. What he’s good at!!

Don’t rush Poulin. Give him and Legare one more year. Let’s see what Janko and E-Rod can do. Both have a decent pedigree. E-rod was a top college wing on Eichel’s right-side. He had 21 goals and 60 points in 41 games on Eichel’s RW( 2nd in the NCAA in points, behind only Eichel) And never got an opportunity after that. I’m excited to see him get his shot.

I’m hoping Maniscalco wins that 3rd pairing RHD with Matheson more than any other rookie wining a roster spot. Or Legare wins the 3rd line RW spot.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2020 at 12:35 a.m.
Thread: What Pens Should do
Trade one of our best young players, under 25 years old for Bonino back. No thanks.

McCann has had back to back 35 point seasons. 19 goals in 18-19 and 35 points and 14 goals and 35 points last year in a shortened season and playing out of position; at Center.

He’s only 24 years old. Played in the NHL since he was 19 years old. Been moved around from 3C, to mid 6 wing, to top 6 wing, to bottom 6 wing, to 2C when Geno or Sid miss time.

Young players need consistency and routine, to play in and out of slumps. Can’t be moved around like a utility player. Not all players can do that, most can’t, and most that can do it and are good at it are older, veteran players.

He’s played every where we have been weak and done well. A good two-way player, fast, great shot, good scorer!!

And still only 24 years old coming off back to back 35 point seasons!!

JR and Sully have it right. He a wing, he will just play the wing this year and do what he does best and score!!

Not play Center and have to worry carrying a line and play-making for all his teammates. Just score!! And he will!! He’ll score 20 plus easily!! He already had 19 goals in 18-19 and was moved around everywhere. Give him that consistency and routine that young players need. Hes gonna stay at 3rd line LW and just score and play good defense like he always does.

Dumping McCann, one of your best players under 25, for Bonino isn’t a good move. And Riikola, one of the top 5 7th D in the NHL IMO.

Plays both LHD and RHD equally as well. Can be trusted and is trusted to slide into the 2nd pairing and 3rd pairing, either side. Has played well coming over from Europe as a top FA signing, 2 years ago, in llimited games. And not limited Ice time. Played 15 minutes a game last year and 17 minutes a game in 18-19. Great analytics and underlying numbers. He’s a great 7th D. He would be a 3rd pairing D on a lot of NHL teams. probably half. Again, a top 5 7th D in the NHL !!
Forum: Fauteuil - DGDec. 28, 2020 at 7:24 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 6:52 p.m.
Thread: poulin gets a shot
McCann is playing wing this year. JR and Sully both said he’s more of a wing, a scorer, great shot!! and will play wing this year. They don’t want him trying to carry a line and play-make for his line. They want him to do what he does best, and score.

And I know people hate it. But Janko is the 3C as the roster stands right now. And will be given every opportunity to keep the spot all year. And E-Rod is the 3rd line RW.

Even with all the injuries last year, Sully didn’t split up the Tanev/Blueger/ZAR line. And he won’t this year either.

The 4th line got 3rd line minutes last year and if McCann/Janko/E-Rod line doesn’t produce, they will again this year. The 4th line will be Tanev/Blueger/Lafferty..(or Sceviour on the RW, 4th line). But we need Lafferty and his right-handed stuck on Face-offs. And he’s good at FO’s.

Unless Poulin is comfortable playing RW, I don’t see him making the roster this year. Unless it’s the 3rd line RW. Again, he has to comfortable playing there though. A left-handed shot on the right side. That’s his weak side. You don’t want to ruin a young player by putting him in a position he isn’t completely comfortable playing. And have him learn and adjust against NHL players and at NHL speed.

The biggest thing I wish for this year is Maniscalco winning the 3rd pairing RHD with Matheson. And send Ruthwedel down have Ceci, Riikola as scratches and depth.

I think Poulin will be ready next year. And if McCann improves or keeps up his back to back 35 point seasons. 19 goals in 18-19 and 14 goals last year. And I think he will improve. I think he will score 20 plus this year. I don’t think he will get traded. I think Zucker will move to the right side of the 3rd line. And McCann will play with Geno and Rust. And the 3rd line wings will be Poulin and Zucker.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 5:31 p.m.
Thread: A Penguins Prospect Pyramid even though we dont have very many
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PGHBOB69</b></div><div>PO-Joseph is an A- prospect. A top 100 prospect on any top 100 list out there.

Poulin is an “A” prospect.

I agree Legare, O’Connor and Maniscalco are all “B-“ prospect. Legare might be a “B” b/c of his NHL level shot.

I would put Blomqvist, Clang, Lee, Lafferty all at “C+”. I would have Angello, Gruden, Bjorkqvist, Almeida, Svejkovsky, Caulfield(both Svejkovsky and Caulfield were invited to the WJ try-outs for team USA. Both were one of 38 players invited; they are young, a long way to go, but both have NHL potential. Just being invited to the WJ try-outs means something) all at “C” prospects.

The biggest error IMO is Puustinen. He’s a top 6 potential. He’s another “B-“, “C+” prospect. He’s a top 6 or bust type of prospect. A scoring winger. Killing it in Liiga, against men. He’s a little, 5’9, 5’10, scoring winger. Like I said, a top 6 player or bust.


https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/6/21551664/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-11-valtteri-puustinen

https://primetimesportstalk.com/2020/04/18/pittsburgh-penguins-big-3-prospect-report/

https://dobberprospects.com/2020/12/23/december-31-in-31-pittsburgh-penguins/

Copy and paste these articles and read up on him alittle more. The 2nd article has him as our 3rd best prospect.

I would rank the Pens prospects, Poulin, PO-Joseph, Legare, Maniscalco, O’Connor, Puustinen, C.Lee, Blomqvist, Clang, Bjorkqvist, J.Caulfield, Svejkovsky, Gruden, J.Almeida, Bellerive, Zohorna.

Lafferty and Angello are graduated from prospect to NHL players, bottom 6 players. Both good two-way players that can chip in scoring some.

I don’t have much faith at all in Reilly, Phillips, Almari. I think all 3 are career AHL d-men. NHL depth, injury call-ups at best.

I do like E.Larmi though. I would put him as a “C”, “C-“ prospect. I think he’s a future NHL back-up. Or AHL stater, 3rd goalie in the organization type at worst.

Puustinen is way too low though. If he makes the NHL. He’ll be a top 6 winger and Be a 2nd PP player.</div></div>

<a href="/users/Pens3lieve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Pens3lieve</a>

https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/11/20/21575860/pensburgh-top-25-under-25-1-john-marino-penguins-best-young-players

Here’s another article/list that has him right behind Maniscalco and ahead of Blomqvist, Bjorkqvist and Clang. Lafferty is 25 years old, and not on this List. But Puustinen would still be ahead of Lafferty too IMO.

Again: I’d go;

Poulin “A”
PO-Joseph “A-“(a top 100 prospect on any list out there)
Legare “B”

OConnor, Maniscalco, Puustinen “B-“

Blomqvist, Clang, C.Lee, Lafferty “C+”

Bjorkqvist, Angello, Svejkovsky, C.Caulfield, Almeida, E.Larmi, Bellerive, S.Miletic, R.Zohorna “C”

Anything less than that would be a “C-“ or a “D”. Very doubtful NHL future.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>You'll be saying this until you realize he just doesn't have the mind to be a top 6 player. You'll get so sick of seeing him fly up the wing and fire poor shots from outside and then never backcheck. It's not a lack of leadership that hurts him, which is such a poor dig at the Leafs, it's he just isn't a smart player. Says the right stuff and has great tools but he doesn't know how to put it together. Comparing him to Kessel is hilarious. Kessel was a terrific player in TO but isn't a guy who can lead he needs to be a secondary player. Kap is a bottom 6 guy with speed who can do some flashy stuff sometimes but usually makes dumb decisions that cost his team more than anything else. He also disappears for weeks on end. He won't last with Crosby because he doesn't add anything to the line except for perimeter shooting and bad decisions with the puck.</div></div>


We’ll see. Just a difference of opinions. I’d be willing to bet he scores 20 plus goals this year in 62 game season though.

IMO it wasn’t a lack of leadership by the leafs. I’m a A.Matthews and M.Rielly fan!! Its a lack of veteran leadership. And I love the leafs off season. I think Thorton, Bogasian, Simmons will have a big impact on that locker room. And Anyone; analysts, beat writers, etc., would say The Leafs had a lack of leadership last year too. But like I said, I don’t think it was that as much as, a young locker room. It’s just different; a locker room full of your peers, players your own age. Than a locker room full of adults, with families and kids and HOF-ers, and Stanley Cup champions. If u don’t think it is a difference, then I don’t know, all I can say is, it is.

But again, I Iove the leafs offseason. They addressed the lack of leadership or youth in the locker room with Thornton, Bogasain, and Simmons. Addressed their toughness with Thornton, Bogasian, Simmons, Vesey. Addressed their lack of NHL depth with Thornton, Vesey, Simmons, Barabnov, Joey Anderson. Addressed their defense with Brodie, Bogasian, Lehtonen, resigning Dermott. I think they had a great offseason. And the taxi squad really helps them out!! And obviously the Leafs K.Dubus and Keefe think/know they needed veteran leadership in the locker room. Which Kappy will get in Pgh too.

Most players change when they come to pgh. We are like the Patriots of the NHL..lol. We turn around a lot of players. And the locker room is a big reason why. Especially young players. Like I said, players respect Sid. European players respect Geno. And D-men respect Letang. All are older, been around, all-stars, HOF-ers, and multiple Stanley Cups. Players want to play their best, be on their best behavior, show up early, leave late(like Sid, Geno, and Letang do) and prove to them they belong and want their respect back. It’s why most players come to Pgh and have career years.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Dude, you are straight trrrrrrrrippin'. The Blues have 423 LDs, Kostin is in several top 100 prospect lists, the Blues would definitely not swap Sunny for Lafferty, the value is not even remotely there for the Blues... I could go on, but sheesh. No.</div></div>


I didn’t know Kostin was on any top 100 prospects list. You could be right. I just know PO-Jospeh is on every one out there.

Ok, I didn’t know they had A lot of LHD prospects. I just know of the dude that won the Hobbey baker award, Perunovich.

But ok, I’m sure u are right and have more LHD prospects than I know. All I’m saying is PO-Joseph is definitely equal if not greater value than K.Kostin. Maybe not for STL. But overall.

And yes, I’ve seen both play. Very often. Lafferty and Sundqvist are similar.

I know west coast teams fans don’t know east Coast teams players that well. Just like east coast teams fans don’t know West Coast teams players as well.

But seeing as Sundavist played for the Pens and I watched a lot of Blues hockey, especially in the play-offs. Yes, Lafferty and Sundqvist are similar players.

And Lafferty makes significantly less money.

Both bottom 6 players. Both can play 3rd line or 4th line. Both good two-way players that can score a bit. Both bigger guys that are tough and fight for the puck. Both right-handed shots. Can play Center/RW/LW. Lafferty a significantly better at Face-offs though.

Even though he played limited games and limited ice time last year. The Pens used him often as a right-handed stick to take face-offs. Again, Lafferty makes significantly less too.

Yes, they are similar players. U think Sundqvist is a top 6?? He’s a average NHL 3C. And so is Lafferty, and I’d say with alittle more potential. Lafferty just hasn’t had the opportunity. B/C Alex Galchenyuk and McCann were ahead of him last year.

He’ll get more ice time this year. And produce similar stats to Sundqvist.

He’s not far off in his 1st year, last year, anyways. Had more hits, more block shots, better analytics, only 8 less points. In less games and only averaged 10 minutes a game last year. Limited ice time when he played. What’s not similar?? I’ve seen them both play often too. You just aren’t familiar with Lafferty. They are very similar players. Except Lafferty makes significant less money.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 4:20 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Every Pens fan on here seems to think Kapanen is going to be a terrific top line RW. Prepare to be disappointed.</div></div>

Remember the last time Toronto traded a super fast, alittle bit of an a**hole player to the Pens?? He ended up eating hot dogs out of the Stanley Cup..!! Twice!!

Kappy will defiantly score 20 plus this year. Coming into a locker room full of adults and not a locker room like Toronto full of kids and his peers will have a impact on him for sure. A positive one!! Itdoes to most players that come to the Penguins. They want to prove they belong. And respect Sid. Andthe European players respect Geno. And the defensemen respect Letang. Playing on a line with Guentzel/Sid, no, no one should expect him to have a big year!! Lol. If Him, Sid and Guentzel are healthy, he’ll score 20 plus goals and have 35-45 points in the 62 games.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2020 at 3:51 p.m.
Thread: Pens trade Blues
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Why on Earth would the Blues even consider this robbery attempt? Good grief, man. We have less than no use for any more LDs, we have better ones falling out of our ears right now. Sundqvist is far better than Lafferty and then you want our two best forward prospects. Uhh no thanks.

Oh... and RobTom is a center, Schenn is LW/C.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>This is slanted in the Pens favor a bit too much and the best piece going to St. Louis is at a position they're pretty set at so this is an easy decline for the Blues.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jwg314</b></div><div>I value the Blues’ worst piece in this deal more than the Pens’ best piece. Extremely easy no from the Blues.</div></div>

PO Jospeh is a top 100 Prospect on any list out there for top 100 NHL prospects. He’s NHL ready. Made the play-off taxi squad last year. If we got past the “play-in” game, he would have gotten NHL time. The coach in the AHL loved him. He played 27 minutes plus a night. Played in every situation. PP and PK. Again the coach loved him and so does the organization. I doubt they trade him. K.Kostin struggled in the AHL. IMO PO-Joseph &gt; Kostin. And Defense much more valuable in the NHL. And Kostin isn’t a top 100 prospect in the NHL.

Lafferty is similar to Sundqvist. And alittle more potential. He had 15 points in limited games and limited ice time last year. 6’1, 200 pounds and I think he’s bigger than he’s listed. He always looks big and thick on the ice. Plays Center/LW/RW. A right-handed shot, good two-way player, good at face-offs(much better than Sundqvist), and he can chip in and score a bit. A lot cheaper than Sundqvist too. I bet STL GM would take Lafferty and his contract over Sundqvist and his 2.7M contract for 3 years.

That would leave the 2nd round pick and Kyrou.

The value is defiantly there for both sides.

Ohh and I said Bobby Thomas and Scheen CAN play RW. But u are right, Schenn is a LW/C. Bobby Thomas is a RW/C though. From all STL depth charts. It looks like R.O’R is gonna be 1C, and B.Schenn 2C with Perron as the 1st line RW and Bobby Thomas as the 2nd line RW.