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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.

Thread: Leafs add size

Flyers decline

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.

Thread: Hart 3-way and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DH28Hockey</b></div><div>Honestly, I think Ottawa probably gets the best deal out of this</div></div>

I think if there was a better kicker than Zadina it might be great for them, landing a nearly elite goalie and a guy who can produce right away to ease the loss of DeB would be best, but the deal is close

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.

Thread: Hart 3-way and more

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlTintin1122</b></div><div>Ottawa gets murdered</div></div>

Do they?

Grieg, DeB ( who wants out and won’t sign) and a 3rd
For Hart (best player in the deal) Zandina and a 2nd?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 6:17 p.m.

Thread: 24 oil

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Right? I came to the comments section to complain about the Campbell dump not even being remotely close. But, then I saw that comment. That is an overpay for Hart by A LOT.</div></div>

I think when you look at it since the oil are solid contenders, they might have to do a pair of firsts. They are going to be late, so it’s really not as valuable as face value…

But it’s not a terrible offer, just the prospect and picks are the only actual value for Philly here

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

Thread: Leafs 23-24 Off-Season Augmentation V

Even if the flyers were not rebuilding, this deal is kinda insane lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Megalodon</b></div><div>Prov was overpaid for. If Hart is even moved, and gets a better return than SJ got for Meier then I will eat my words but don’t count on it. He hasnt proven anything in this league and goalies are far too mercurial to spend high end assets on in the first place.</div></div>

Prov was a decent player, but a first, 2 2nds and a good prospect is def high… I think taking the cap dump played into that

Meier got technically got a pair of firsts, pair of 2nd and a 3rd since three of those prospects went in recent draft rounds 1, 2 and 3. So probably won’t beat that lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Megalodon</b></div><div>So essentially more than Debrincat and Timo.

Again get real on the value.</div></div>

Always depends on the market. If you have 8 teams knocking down your door asking about a player where there is not many options available, the value is high.

Hart is definitely more valuable than Prov… so yeah, his return will mirror that

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.

Thread: danny briere

If Danny B offers the Habs that and the Habs turn it down, Hughes should be fired on the spot lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.

Thread: danny briere

Flyers Habs deal is hilarious

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NotDougWilson</b></div><div>.905 & .907 doesn't scream "very solid" to me. He was .914 & .917 before that awful .877 2020-2021 season.</div></div>

On a team that had that many turnovers and breakaways, with massive amounts of injuries to all our best 2-way guys… it’s very solid lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Megalodon</b></div><div>Any scenario including the sharks moving 4th overall for Carter Hart is completely ridiculous and a massive, massive overpayment. Get real people.</div></div>
The offer above is not 4 for Hart
It’s 4, 26 and a decent prospect for 7, 22, a better prospect and a goalie lol

Hart’s value is very high…not as high as all this, but a first, 2nd, and high prospect is probably the base for Hart that all teams will meet trying to win the Hart lotto.

I know these deals won’t happen lol, just letting you guys know the value

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NotDougWilson</b></div><div>Grier has gone on to say that it would take a considerate offer to move the #4 pick. We're not good trading partners since the Flyers want 2 1st round picks and we won't have the cap pay Hart his big boy bucks. That's all on merit that he plays to the level he was at pre-COVID</div></div>
His last two years were very solid.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.

Thread: If Phily is selling

Philly is selling but don’t need to do it right now. If the return is right, I can see them moving both Hart and TK… I believe TK is expected to get about what Prov got, Hart is going to need to be a sweeter return. I think everyone is willing to offer a high prospect, first and 2nd, but I think who ever has the nicest kicker lands him.

Topi would be a great piece to centre either deal around.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.

Thread: Fire sale in Philly

Ummm I know this post was just for fun, but Risto for Murray could be fun

Risto could be ra useful 3rd pair D for the leafs and getting his useless ass off of Philly would be a win lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Haha no</div></div>

It’s closer than this offer.
Hart, a prospect downgrade (love Ozzy, but Kap seems more complete) a downgrade in late first, take on a buyout, all to move up 3 spots is hysterical.

I don’t even know if I’d give up a 2nd in this draft to move anywhere between 3-10 since they all seem so skilled.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oiler_fan88</b></div><div>Pk is rough</div></div>

Yup, only area where his stat is terrible. Hard to blame a goalie on PK when they have one of the worst D groups in the league though, but it still should be evaluated just as equally as the rest of the stats

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

Thread: Potential Hart Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheDuminator</b></div><div>what would be fair from MTL?</div></div>

Habs have Montimbeault (spelling) if they did a swap with him the price could be drastically different, but I’d expect the price is currently pay a first, 2nd and high prospect. But with the Panthers first, that’s pretty much a 2nd so it doesn’t work, and the Habs first is very early so I assume that would be tough to trade

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.

Thread: Carter Hart Trade Possibility

So Flyers trade from 7 and 22 to 4 and 26 (in a draft where 3-10 is pretty much a crap shoot) and swap prospects? Ummmmm maybe remove everything the Flyers send back other than Hart and you have a deal lol

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.

Thread: Montreal Canadians cup winning roster

Even those two Philly deals combined (minus Philly sending back the first) still doesn’t land Hart without a top prospect.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate Dvorak, but he brings no value as he is only signed two years.
No current roster players on short term UFA deals hold value to Philly.
They are big on Barron though.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.

Thread: Potential Hart Trades

If the Flyers only get these offers, Hart stays in philly.
Simply put, he is young and going to be an RFA, Philly will match any offers unless the haul is too good to turn down.

The pay for Hart will be bigger than that of Provorov.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>who need comedy clubs or comedy movies when you have posts like these that make people laugh so hard they drop to the floor rolling in laughter</div></div>

Have you actually looked at his numbers? His stats place him above average in every area other than PK.. he is factually one of the better goalies in the league.

I’ve strapped my bandwagon to the Sens a few years ago after the front office made it impossible to cheer for the Flyers. The Sens landing Hart would be a huge upgrade and set them on path to be a powerhouse.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT does not need to overpay for a average to below average G.</div></div>

That’s true, lucky for us, Hart is considered one of the better goalies in the world by pretty much every stat

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>and i cannot wait to see you cry in the feetal position when he is not traded for what you think he will be.</div></div>
Danny holds all the cards. He doesn’t need to trade Hart this year or this contract even.
Apparently the offers coming in are larger than the return of Provorov, which is to be expected since his stats rank him well above average

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>remove the 1st and lassi and its a fair deal</div></div>

Trolling is fun.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.

Thread: Danny B is Here

Most these deals are fair
I think the Sens and Flyers could do a fun deal like Ostapchuk, Lassi and a first that becomes a 2nd if the Sens miss the playoffs and it would still be fair

Sens look really good and should be a contender with this lineup

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