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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26, 2022 at 8:50 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2022 at 6:42 p.m.
Thread: Ship as sailed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>Hey, we stand corrected, I posted that Kulak would go anywhere for a 1st or 2nd round draft pick plus a prospect.

Guess our expectations were right on point. 2nd round plus a prospect.. But you now.. Mcfly there is always right trolling other people's Armchair Deals.. LOL!
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>OMG.. just spit out my coffee.. Lek to Colorado, for guess what .. Justin Barron (1st draft pick 2020 with lots of potential) AND a 2nd round pick 2024.. Again.. Our expectations were too high! LOL!

We win! THat's what happens when you know the value of players. Gotta say I never saw Colorado in the picture for him. Was thinking more like NYR or NASH. But not colorado. That's a surprise.</div></div>

The Kulak trade was an insane overpayment imho, but the Lehkonen trade was a little bit underwhelming.. but I also need to look into how good Barron is projected to be.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20, 2022 at 3:01 p.m.
Thread: Ship as sailed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>I’m not sure the caps are adding. Their GM has seemed to figure out that they just aren’t a contender this year. If they make one add, it will probably be a goalie. Definitely not moving a first rounder in any scenario.

The rangers and aves are two teams that i could absolutely see having interest. But both have other holes to fill, particular the aves. I don’t think they’re going to spend the capital on a third line winger.</div></div>

We'll see. Everything I say about these picks also include swapping them out for the equivalencies (Prospect worth a 1st for example). Rags do need help on 5v5 and the PK, so Lehkonen should be a higher priority asset in that regard. Colorado could also use that depth from what it looks like.

Now for the opinion, the Caps should still try to push as far into the playoffs as possible while they still can with their core. The timeline is closing in on them pretty fast.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20, 2022 at 2:49 p.m.
Thread: Ship as sailed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>What? Hagel had 21 goals through his first 55 games in his second season, with similar intangibles, and then theres the contract to consider. Hagel is a very very very bad comparison. About the worst you could find.

Now, in a vacuum, it really does look like the rental market has been reset this year, so maybe the request is…i don’t want to say reasonable, because its not…but lets say close. But this isn’t a vacuum, and every seller needs a buyer.

Who is this buyer that you think would be willing to give up a 1st and a 3rd?</div></div>

Cant predict the future, but I could see either the Rags, Caps, or Avs be the final 3 in the running. I know both the Caps and Avs were interested in him a few years ago too so I would not be surprised if they made a splash for him, especially considering both of them have been pretty quiet so far.

Its worth noting that the Habs are definitely not getting less than a 1st for him, it seems like they really only want to trade him if the return is good enough, and there isnt much of a rush in doing so compared to someone like Chiarot (UFA Rental vs RFA).

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Koskinen_The_Great</b></div><div>Hagel shooting 23% is somehow sustainable and he's done so for less than a season. i get his contract is great but that was the definition was selling high. Lehkonen is a better player in any large sample size. They are quite comparable. Makes me laugh when ppl dont get that this is the market. very few decent young middle 6 forwards with team control available with a low AVV, Hagel and Lehkonen are those forwards which creates an inflated market</div></div>

That Hagel trade definitely set the market for depth wingers, and its proving that this deadline is a buyer's market. If you go back into my trades, I valued Lehkonen at around as Kravstov (high 1st/low 2nd). I would still personally be happy with that return now, but underwhelmed, just like the Toffoli trade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 20, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread: If the Panthers knew that Giroux would only waive his NMC for Florida
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Interesting point. I tend to think of future firsts as having less value, but I suppose that if you are comparing it to the very late first that this years pick will be (which the Sabres own), suppose it could be better to have a pick in the future. Also, as a gm you run the risk of acquiring future assets that the guy who replaces you gets to spend. I don't think it's a bad trade, especially since the door is still left open for giroux to return to Philly.</div></div>

The way I see it, I can compare it to the MTL-CHI trade that happened a few years ago (to an extent), with Danault and Weise. GMMB chose to get a 2nd round pick a few drafts after that upcoming one and it ended up working out very well for him as we got Romanov from that pick.
It can be the Flyers GM not being good at negotiating, it can be him respecting Giroux's wishes, or it can be him betting on Florida's downfall. I dont think the Flyers immediately lost, but we will only really see in a few years.