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Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 10, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Leafs' Game 4 lineup:Järnkrok -- Matthews -- Marner Kerfoot — Tavares -- Nylander Bunting -- O'Reilly -- Acciari Kämpf -- Lafferty Rielly -- Schenn Brodie — Holl McCabe — Liljegren GiordanoWoll starts in goal</p>— Jonas Siegel (@jonassiegel) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1656433849537011712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">May 10, 2023</a></blockquote>

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Crazy to me that we never got to see this line once this playoffs

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Be great to see them get a few shifts together
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 5:57 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>I was on break didn't gave have time to give a longer response. I'm well aware we're in a deep hole and thought this team would have shown up for game 2 but haven't yet. This team needs to set the tone and dictate the pace of play, which they've failed to do to this point and I blame the coaching. Keefe didn't out coach cooper in the Tampa sieries, they were worn out. Keefe has been outcoached this entire sieries and his panic shows with the constant line juggling. By this time of year a teams lines should be pretty much set and unless injuries pile up a coach should not need to adjust as much as keefe has. I can understand trying to get your guys going but that should not be the case this time of year for the players.

This group can't win because they like losing more than yhey hate winning and you just can't win a cup without that drive. This team has the talent to win a cup but lack the will needed IMO.</div></div>

I am not sure that's the right word to use. I think they do what their coach wants and their coach is too stubborn to change anything. I said it after game 1 when Keefe acted like it was all good, we played well enough to win bla bla bla bla. That scared me because it showed me he learned nothing from the loss and then game 2 reinforced it when he again did nothing because they deserved to win. He's just not a playoff coach. He may become one someday but we can't wait on him to learn.

Hire whoever wins the memorial cup.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 5:58 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sign_em_up000000</b></div><div>Should have hit multi quote but here's my opinion...

I was on break didn't gave have time to give a longer response. I'm well aware we're in a deep hole and thought this team would have shown up for game 2 but haven't yet. This team needs to set the tone and dictate the pace of play, which they've failed to do to this point and I blame the coaching. Keefe didn't out coach cooper in the Tampa sieries, they were worn out. Keefe has been outcoached this entire sieries and his panic shows with the constant line juggling. By this time of year a teams lines should be pretty much set and unless injuries pile up a coach should not need to adjust as much as keefe has. I can understand trying to get your guys going but that should not be the case this time of year for the players.

This group can't win because they like losing more than yhey hate winning and you just can't win a cup without that drive. This team has the talent to win a cup but lack the will needed IMO.
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good to have you back
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nathaniel</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitch Marner: "We don't care what you guys say, we don't listen to you guys outside of this locker room. We're just focused on ourselves."<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Leafs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Leafs</a></p>— Joshua Clipperton (@JClipperton_CP) <a href="https://twitter.com/JClipperton_CP/status/1656003691181219851?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">May 9, 2023</a></blockquote>

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Look, this is definitely fair to say, but it's infuriating. These guys don't ever show an ounce of urgency or accountability in these media scrums. I get it's just a media scrum and ignoring the outside noise is good, but I wish for once they'd atleast show us that they have atleast some kind of drive. Not singling out mitch because this is across the board (aside from Nylander), but it's so annoying. New culture needed dearly</div></div>

I would rather they just not talk to the media and just do their jobs
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mitch Marner: "We don't care what you guys say, we don't listen to you guys outside of this locker room. We're just focused on ourselves."<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Leafs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">#Leafs</a></p>— Joshua Clipperton (@JClipperton_CP) <a href="https://twitter.com/JClipperton_CP/status/1656003691181219851?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">May 9, 2023</a></blockquote>

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Look, this is definitely fair to say, but it's infuriating. These guys don't ever show an ounce of urgency or accountability in these media scrums. I get it's just a media scrum and ignoring the outside noise is good, but I wish for once they'd atleast show us that they have atleast some kind of drive. Not singling out mitch because this is across the board (aside from Nylander), but it's so annoying. New culture needed dearly
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsFan</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Sheldon Keefe is changing things up in Game 4 — up front and on D:Järnkrok -- Matthews -- MarnerKerfoot — Tavares -- NylanderBunting -- O'Reilly -- AcciariAston-Reese -- Kämpf -- LaffertyRielly -- SchennBrodie — HollMcCabe — LiljegrenGiordano — GustafssonWoll/Murray</p>— Jonas Siegel (@jonassiegel) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1655989746361827332?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">May 9, 2023</a></blockquote>

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I can’t believe or I probably should but Matthews and Marner still being together</div></div>

Really glad the solution to our problems is top 4 Justin Holl and no forward group changes. Awesome. Atleast they won't prolong my suffering
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MatthewsFan</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Sheldon Keefe is changing things up in Game 4 — up front and on D:Järnkrok -- Matthews -- MarnerKerfoot — Tavares -- NylanderBunting -- O'Reilly -- AcciariAston-Reese -- Kämpf -- LaffertyRielly -- SchennBrodie — HollMcCabe — LiljegrenGiordano — GustafssonWoll/Murray</p>— Jonas Siegel (@jonassiegel) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonassiegel/status/1655989746361827332?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">May 9, 2023</a></blockquote>

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I can’t believe or I probably should but Matthews and Marner still being together</div></div>

Keefe is the problem man.
Forum: Toronto Maple LeafsMay 9, 2023 at 7:39 a.m.
Thread: Leafs 2022 2023 Season Discussion Thread (Part 6: Quest for the Cup)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I'm wondering what you guys think about having an elite level D vs not having one. I mean we see the team not having one and so when Brodie and McCabe struggle there's not that elite level go-to guy that the coach can really lean on to help the guys that struggle.

I know someone is going to point to Rielly and really, I'm happy that he particularly has been very good but it's safe to say he's not a guy you can just pair with anyone and not be sweating over what is happening on the ice.

I'm really wondering this with the struggles on D.</div></div>

The defence isn't the problem, Florida's offence is almost entirely quick strike offence. That's not the defence. It's the system. It's flawed and Keefe doesn't change anything.