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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread: Im not a GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Fabbri will likely be out until at least January if he's even back at all. Even if he's back he won't be playing C. It takes 2 years to fully recover from a torn ACL or MCL. Suter will be 2C again if Stevie doesn't sign a 2C like Trochek in UFA. Veleno will be given more minutes at C. I expect Ras to play both C and wing again. Suter is much better as a C than he is as a winger. Ras can use his size more effectively on the wing.

It'll all depend on who the new head coach is as well. There's too many uncertainties to say Rasmussen will be a permanent 2C.</div></div>

So much uncertainty everywhere. I think Fabbri is a winger no doubts and hopefully his recovery goes well and he returns to form to play as good or better than prior to his injury . As I mentioned, I don't think Ras is a 2C at all. I just tried to balance out the size and skill sets over the top 3 lines. Suter is definitely better suited overall as a 2C than Ras.

I couldn't tell you what direction Yzerman goes with a new head coach. I just know he wants someone that will come in and hold the players to a higher standard and will clean up the defensive issues.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 10, 2022 at 11:50 a.m.
Thread: Im not a GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Datsyukian</b></div><div>None of this is true. Tampa will have to move some pieces and Serg will have a much bigger pay day than Cernak. Serg will be expensive but I think the Wings can get it done with a combo of Zadina, Wallinder, and their 1st. Keeps tampa light and talented at the same time.

Veleno is developing nicely and we need him to continue to do that. No point in trading him away for a 2nd/3rd pair Dman right now. Serg is a 24 year old 1st pair Dman on the left side. He is elite.

What 2C is Yzerman trading for? What does it cost? Have no interest in any of the C UFAs this year - they will all be severely overpaid.</div></div>

Yeah Tampa will have to move pieces and maybe it's Sergachev? Yes, I agree Sergachev is an elite D-man. I just put a deal together with Cernak that I thought would move the needle a bit to solidify the Wings D-corp so we're not giving up 3.5 goals a game.

Veleno is developing nicely, he's still young. I think he's still going to be a decent NHLer and have a nice career. Do I see him part of the Wings long term, I could. Could I also see him traded in a package deal to bring in a proven NHL player that helps the team take that next step, I could. Long term outlook, I just see him as a 3C with any team he'd play for with the ability to fill in at 2C in a pinch.

I couldn't tell you what 2C Yzerman would trade for as it's very difficult to get a willing trade partner for a 2C without overpaying. I agree that the C UFA's this year aren't of much interest because you're right, they will all be overpaid or given too many years on a deal. That leaves us with draft and develop a 2C hopefully.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 12:47 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 25, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 10, 2019 at 8:43 a.m.
Thread: 2020-2021 Changing of the Guard
HabsForEver - I see him playing either LW or Center on the 3rd/4th line if this trade happened. He'd be a depth piece that has lots of playoff experience. He's only got 1 year left on his deal at this point and the Wings playing him as a 2nd line Center isn't where he should be playing. His plus minus at -27 says enough that he's not a 2C anymore and would be better off in a limited role. The Wings have plenty of role players and Filppula would help a team that can contend in the playoffs.

wingss - I'm aware Carolina probably wouldn't make this trade, but one can only hope. The Rangers trade is a crap shoot. Only reason I think it'd be possibility is because Andersson is buried on the depth chart for them and they have a lot of young talent already. Maybe the Rangers would entertain the trade with different pieces/prospects... who knows. As far as the contracts and money for Bertuzzi, Mantha and AA I believe I'm in the ballpark on most of the contracts based on previous years.
Starting with Bertuzzi - I agree I'm a bit light on $ for this if you are looking at this years improvements but I'd currently compare his contract offer to something similar to what Andrew Shaw makes per year ($3.9M). I based his contract off of the numbers he posted in the 18-19 season. Now that said, Bertuzzi is on pace to have roughly 65 points this year, which would warrant a contract around the $5.4-$5.9M range.
As for AA - I believe he is an electric player at times and can be a key player for the Wings future. The problem I have with handing out anything over $5M with more term than 4 years is because he's shown year after year that he is really inconsistent. When he's hot, he's on fire... but when he's cold, he's ice cold and a defensive liability. He reminds me a lot of a young Darren Helm, but more skilled handling the puck. Yes, he put up 54 pts and 30 goals last season which should warrant a contract in the $5-$5.5 range. I don't see him as anything more than a 2nd line forward that could spot fill on a 1st line if needed. Paying AA anything more than $5M would hinder the Wings ability in a couple years to fill out a more well rounder roster up front and on the back end. This would also allow his contract to be trade-able if the Wings ever explore that idea.
In regards to Mantha - he's deserving of a nice pay day as he's turning into the player the Wings had hoped for when they drafted him. I do think they try to keep it under $7M with term of 6-7 years though. He's a power forward that can produce at all ends of the ice and could possibly be a point per game player (pending he could stay healthy for an entire season). I think they will reward him, but they will also keep in mind that Mantha, Bert, AA, Larks and Hronek are the key pieces to the rebuild and there will be a couple pieces to the puzzle that they will have trade for or find in free agency that will need paid in order to make this team a contender for the playoffs again.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 27, 2019 at 11:05 a.m.