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Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 24, 2019 at 11:24 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 1, 2019 at 3:19 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 18, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
Thread: Opening Night No Laine Connor or Byfuglien
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rooney</b></div><div>I could see Bourque on that line as well unfortunately...</div></div>

This is how I think it'll go, eventually Connor gets signed but Laine I really don't know at this point and other GM'S are gonna have Chevy over a barrel if he tries to trade Laine so I'm not gonna even bother factoring in any kind of Laine trade return so this is what I think the lines are gonna be.

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Ehlers-Little-Perreault
Bourque-Lowry-Copp
Appleton-Letestu-Roslovic

I really have no idea who the spares will be, probably that Russian and Vesalainen but Vesalainen should be with the Moose cause he's not ready for NHL hockey yet if he ever will be, I'm thinking he'll be a bust but I hope not.

I think the 1st line will be same old same old, good but a bit overrated really, the 2nd will be pretty decent actually but people will still **** about it, the 3rd line will get way too much ice time for not enough production and the 4th line will get 6-8 minutes a night and Roslovic and Appleton will be frustrated as **** playing with a guy who shouldn't be in the NHL anymore while Bourque gets 15 minutes a night.

Call me pessimistic if you want but I think that's how it's gonna shake out.. Lol
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 29, 2019 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread: Trading Ehlers to add defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>And you're leaving out the most important thing to look at... the two different systems he's played in over those last 160 games. In 17-18 Weight used an run and gun system that led to a TON of Offense and no Defense... hence the terrible plus/minus and the Isles having the worst D in the league. In 18-19 Trotz used a Defense first system that sapped the offense from the team, leading to Leddy's lower points totals last year and the Isles having the BEST D in the league (which Leddy was a huge part of, by the way). Neither of those things suggest that Leddy is on the decline and absolutely point to those things being the product of the systems he played in. Since, by the way, Leddy was told by Trotz to focus solely on D and not worry about the offense as was the entire Isles team.

Look at the entire Isles team last year offensively... are you going to tell me that Lee because he only scored 28 goals (after 40 and 35 the previous 2 seasons) last year is no longer a goal scorer or is declining? Are you going to tell me Barzal is a bust because he dropped 23 points off his rookie campaign?

Lastly, take a look at Leddy's season as a whole, he was scoring at a much more consistent pace in the second half (after he adjusted to the D first system) than he did in the first 2 months of the season.</div></div>

Notice how I never mentioned points or plus minus but that is all you harp on. Go do some research...
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 29, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
Thread: Trading Ehlers to add defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>Okay, other than his +/- in 17-18 and his point total in 18-19 tell me how he sucks? You can't because it's not true when you look at everything. I've used facts and statistics to back up my assessment of Leddy... you have used things like "He sucks" or "You're delusional" to back up your assessment that he's terrible... When you want to join the big boys and use facts to backup your arguments then we can continue this discussion.</div></div>

Literally every 5v5 metric bud. Look at his WAR. Look at aging curves. Do some basic research.

Anyone that has even the most basic comprehension of statistics knows you can't just take 160 games and call them outliers. Especially the most recent 160 games. Those are the most relevant 160 games when evaluating Leddy.

You have a bunch to go learn there superchief...
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 29, 2019 at 1:42 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 29, 2019 at 1:34 p.m.
Thread: Trading Ehlers to add defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeygoalie53</b></div><div>That was me you were arguing with because neither one of you is valuing Leddy at what he should be valued at. I'll say it again for the idiots in the room, Leddy is a Top 4 (borderline Top 2) LHD defenseman. He's an excellent skater who moves the puck out of the zone and puts up 40+ year in and year out. I'm not gonna go into explaining to you nitwits again about his Offensive numbers last year, since neither of you can grasp the fact the Isles introduced a D FIRST system and EVERYONE'S offensive numbers were down because of it. Meanwhile, he was able to bring his +/- back to 0 after having that bad +/- year in 17-18.

17-18 and 18-19 were outlier years for Leddy, one on the offensive side and one on the defensive side. I, and many others with actual Hockey intelligence, fully expect Leddy to go back to being what his career has shown him to be... a 40+ point guy, with an average +/- offensive defenseman who moves the puck. If you want that, you pay the premium.

What I find hysterical in all of this is that Ehlers had just as bad a year as Leddy and you want to sell the farm for him, but Leddy is washed up after what you idiots believe is a bad season??

As for the actual trade... That's way too much going from the Isles for Ehlers. You're not getting 2 top 4 defenseman for Ehlers, plus additionals. Something built around Leddy and Bellows for Ehlers (additional picks added on both sides to even it out if need be) should be enough.</div></div>

Outlier years??? GTFOH

By aging curve Leddy is past his prime...