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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.

Thread: 23-24 Off-Season23 TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheRealisticGuy</b></div><div>Nick Jensen will be looking for terms and money
You gave him neither</div></div>

He’ll be a 33 year old defenseman. His time for term and $ is gone, especially during this flat cap. In this scenario, he’ll be wanting to play close to friends and family. Also, I did specify that the UFA contracts were debatable.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>So why did you sign Nick Jensen at $2.5M to be a bottom pair guy? Why are you paying Merrill $1.2M to be the pressbox guy? You could literally trade Goligoski for a 5th, Merrill for a 3rd, call up O’Rourke or Hunt and sign a 7D for $750k and save ~ $1.6M while actually allowing our prospects a chance to make the team instead. What’s the point of having all these LD prospects if they are never given a chance to make the team? You also overpaid Duhaime by at least $125k. Shaw overpaid by probably $200k. We could probably get Holl for $1-1.5M in free agency, maybe Luke Schenn for under $2M. That’s another $500k-1.5M saved by just being smarter with our money.</div></div>

Nick Jensen would be a top 4 guy unless Faber tore it up (just dropped to the bottom pair when added and didn’t move him up), then you would let Goligoski or Merrill go. Find a better D for less than Merrill or Goligoski, by all means plug them in. You sign Jensen at $2.5M because it would cost you $3M to sign Addison and don’t get extra scoring. I don’t think O’Rourke or Hunt are going to be one of your top 6 defensemen and you’re not letting them sit in the press box. Cap hits for guys making less than $2.5M are certainly debatable

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>I’ll take my chances that Greenway rebounds. Get extra cap by trading Goligoski to a team that would actually play him regularly</div></div>

I’m so glad MIN got that 1st for Dumba he was priced at for years instead of waiting so long that he wasn’t worth anything and ended up turning pucks over nightly into free agency… Oh wait! Goligoski = $2M and Greenway = $3M. Every $1M really matters for this team. If Faber plays well at the beginning of the year or you can find a cheaper 6th/7th D, Goligoski could be moved

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>Lmao, what? If Greenway can’t pull a 4th then he won’t be traded. We will wait to have his value bounce back next year to the 2nd round value he’s had literally every other season.</div></div>

He’s essentially a cap dump at this point for MIN to fit in a top 6 forward. MIN can’t wish in one hand as they crap in the other like they did with Dumba until it was a day late and $6M short

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TanSor</b></div><div>Probably what it would take to get the Canucks to retain half on Boeser. I like Boeser, just don't love the idea of moving Addison to get him.</div></div>

Would you rather have his power play assists or Boeser score goals? If Addison wants $3M in an extension (like in this example), better to move him for a top 6 forward and gain the value you have now with more D prospects in the pipeline

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Why does Vancouver even need to be involved</div></div>

Because Addison is being used to obtain Boeser as the whole premise of these moves. If VAN wouldn’t want Olofsson instead of Addison (which they shouldn’t), your trade falls through and the Boeser trade doesn’t work. No sense in sending Foligno to BUF then

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>How about you forget about Boeser and add Addison to the Buffalo trade and I will add a Olofsson with 50% retained
Foligno Addison
Olofsson 50%, Philadelphia's 2nd</div></div>

If VAN wants Olofsson at 50% in place of Addison, then sure

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>That's not what you set the retention at</div></div>

Additional Details specify VAN sends 50% of their retention to ARI for a 4th

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sleeparc</b></div><div>Sharks pass. Maybe a 5th in next year's draft but his play does not dictate a high 4th in a deep draft.</div></div>

Deal!

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 10, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.

Thread: Off-Season Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks33</b></div><div>Vancouver isn't retaining that much. The Wild just aren't a good trade partner.</div></div>

They are only retaining $1,662,500 for two years. This is about as much as VAN is currently overpaying Boeser. Van will need to retain at least 25% with most teams during this flat cap

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 9, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>I would aim to keep Hartman because of his contract and term maybe include Gaudreau instead or find a dumba trade first</div></div>

You could sign Gaudreau for the same or less than Hartman and gives you the same production (maybe more?). Trading Dumba means nothing if you don’t find another RHD for this year. I’d love to get rid of Dumba, but he’s here the rest of the season and MIN gets nothing for him

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 9, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>Unless those two come with reasonable contract extensions this move would completely destroy the Wild for sooooo many years to come.

But definitely would be cool to see</div></div>

If MIN can hold on to a playoff spot, this would probably give them the best chance to win with rentals. Giving up a 1st (2 if they win the Cup) would be worth it for one year. Still have Addison (And top prospects) that you could recoup assents for in the off-season if you’d rather have picks in this year’s draft.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20, 2023 at 9:16 p.m.

Thread: Toews Kane Dumba and Greenway Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>There will be tons of team interested in Matt Dumba, Pretty sure he'll get at least 5 years $25 million.

That might get you Kane, But no way does that get you both Kane and Toews together.</div></div>

1st, prospect, and roster player for Kane and 3rd for Toews. 3rd has potential to be as high as a first.

Both players have a NTC, so the return won’t be much higher than that depending on how many teams they would agree to be traded to. Slim chance they both want to go to MIN, but doubt there’s many other teams on their list if they did.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.

Thread: Toews Kane Dumba and Greenway Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boilermaker</b></div><div>I like the condition on the pick if Minnesota advances in the playoffs.

Hawks don't need any more LD prospects so replace Peart with maybe Rieger Lorenz. A 2023 second would be nice too.</div></div>

Pick conditions are similar to what Billy and Davidson did with Fleury last year.

Peart prospect could be tweaked based off of what CHI needs in their system, but thinking it would be similar to him.

Billy already giving up a 1, 3 (+), prospect, and player with term, he won’t be adding a 2nd too.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.

Thread: Toews Kane Dumba and Greenway Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tucson</b></div><div>Is the retention for Kane and Toews supposed to be more? If Hawks are retaining, don't think 50% would be any different than 25%. Would like to see the '23 2nd in the deal going to Hawks as well.</div></div>

Don’t need to retain anything if they trade Dumba, but less retention = less going back to CHI. Don’t think a second would be added with their NTC. The return should be fair depending on the list of teams they would like to be traded to, especially if they would like to be traded to the same team to stay together and make the transition easier.

Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsJan. 20, 2023 at 6:10 p.m.

Thread: Toews and Kane

The 3rd round pick would be conditional depending on the Wild’s playoff success. 2nd for conference championship and 1st for cup.

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