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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 27, 2022 at 11:42 a.m.
Thread: Hall of Fame Snubs
Absolute crime that "Alex The Great" is not in the Hall yet.

Top-100 all-time in points (81st – 1032)
Top-75 all-time in goals (56th – 473)
One of only six players to score 70+ goals in a season (76G in 77GP in 1992-93)
8x 30 goal-scorer (full-season pace: 10x)
4x 40 goal-scorer (full-season pace: 6x)
2x 100 points-scorer (full-season pace: 3x)
1x Stanley Cup champion (NJD, 2000)
1x Rocket Richard trophy* (*if it existed in 1992-93, tied with Teemu Selanne)
1x Lady Byng trophy (2003)
NHL record for most game-winning goals in a season (11 in 1992-93)
NHL record for fastest goal to start a game (5 seconds)
One of 30 members of Triple Gold Club (Olympic Gold in 1988, World Championship in 1989, Stanley Cup in 2000)
First Russian to be made Captain of an NHL club

Add in the cultural element of being the first player to defect from the Soviet Union to play in the NHL
Forum: NHL TradesJul. 18, 2022 at 11:23 a.m.
Thread: (MTL/CHI) - 2022 1st round pick (NYI) + 2022 3rd round pick for Dach
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sammy_daws1997</b></div><div>There are a number of draft value charts that have been developed based on both player performances from each draft pick and on trade value from trades over the history of the draft.

The most agreed upon most accurate says that 4OA has a value of 783 (out of 1000). 13OA is worth 481, 26OA is worth 297 and 66OA is worth 177, which add up to a value of 955. So based on this, the 4OA pick is worth quite a bit less than 13OA, 26OA and 66OA.

https://myslu.stlawu.edu/~msch/sports/Schuckers_NHL_Draft.pdf</div></div>

For an example, here are the 10 4OA, 13OA, 26OA picks from 2010-2020

Year 4th OA 13th OA 26th OA 66th OA
2010 Ryan Johansen Brandon Gormley Evgeny Kuznetsov Radko Gudas
2011 Adam Larsson Sven Bartschi Phillip Danault TJ Tynan
2012 Griffin Reinhart Radek Faksa Brendan Gaunce Jimmy Vesey
2013 Seth Jones Josh Morrissey Shea Theodore Brett Pesce
2014 Sam Bennett Jakub Vrana Nikita Scherbak Nikita Tryamkin
2015 Mitch Marner Jakub Zboril Noah Juulsen Guillaume Brisbois
2016 Jesse Puljujärvi Jake Bean Tage Thompson Adam Fox
2017 Cale Makar Nick Suzuki Jake Oettinger Max Gildon
2018 Brady Tkachuk Ty Dellandrea Jacob Bernard-Docker Cam Hillis
2019 Bowen Byram Spencer Knight Jakob Pelletier Albin Grewe
2020 Lucas Raymond Seth Jarvis Jake Neighbours Kasper Simontaival

Looking at these if 4OA was traded for 13OA+26OA+66OA, IMO there are two lop-sided trade in favor of 4OA (2015 and 2018), but three lop-sided trades in favor of 13OA+26OA+66OA (2010, 2013 and 2016). The rest are fair-ish deals, and keep in mind that later draft picks develop later typically, so the more recent drafts will be biased towards 4OA. Even in 2017 when Makar was taken 4OA, the trade isnt that bad with Suzuki and Oettinger going back the other way.