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Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
4 minutes ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Sammy was very bad in that game as well. Terrible first goal, didn't look great on the 2nd and dropped his stick and went down early on the 3rd goal.
The coach doesn't make the right decisions, doesn't employ the right gameplan, and doesn't adjust. This is not new, it's literally the same thing every year in the Keefe era. A whole new staff (if it's the right coach, which muddies it all up) could push the right buttons to fix some of the problems. B</div></div>
Again he wasnt the issue that game or series. Issue was our PP was dog**** 1/21 and this team couldnt score to save its life
Basically had to play to where goalie had to get a shutout or only allow 1 goal to win was not a viable strategy
This teams paying a bunch of guys to score but in 13 of their last 14 couldnt
As said before did not matter who was in net the bigger problems caught up. 12 goals in 7 games = unacceptable for what we are paying these guys
Nylander came in late and had the same goals by the end as JT, Marner, Matthews combined lul
Embarrassing
As for new coaching is enough no. We have had 9 years of these guys now including 7 of the big 4 enough is enough its time for a change
Cant just keep building around the edges or replacing GM'S, HC, etc time to fix this team at its core
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
2 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
Expect Marner to VGK rumours with the R1 loss to DAL
Its the most VGK thing to see/happen
Forum:
NHL
2 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>That is the most Vegas in the the history of Vegas I’ve ever seen</div></div>
They just want all the big toyz and with a R1 loss now after going almost all in and with TOR looking for change I could see something
Maybe not but its not out of the realm of VGK
Forum:
NHL
2 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Lets all celebrate that the cheaters are out</div></div>
When VGK goes out early they often go crazy the following year
Expect Marner to VGK now lul
Forum:
NHL
2 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
Were getting a new SC champion
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
2 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Keefe has definitely been an issue but also part of why this discussion gets muddy is when the team continues to not start on time. We can point that as a coaching issue but at what point are we going to say "hey players wake the **** up and go earn those contracts and accolades media and fans have lauded your way".
Like game 4 of this series...team just didn't start on time and it went downhill from there but we're wondering why we couldn't win in game 7.
Why did it need to get to game 7? Oh...right..they handed games to Boston.</div></div>
Yep game 3 to me they full on handed to BOS
0/5 PP said enough
Like what more can you say if your PP cant help yah.
Forum:
NHL
3 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CantStopWontStop</b></div><div>I think Edmunson was outstanding except …
I’m a big fan of him, he’s got stone hands.
It kinda wasn’t ideal that he was the finisher on maybe 3 high danger scoring chances in game 7. That’s def not a role he will do well at, unfortunately. I’d still welcome him back on my team, and thought he played really well for Toronto.</div></div>
Edmundson, Dewar, and Lybushkin were fine for what was expected and considering they were TDL adds not bad
Main problem big 4 but Willy forgot what scoring was
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
7 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>No. I don’t want Marner resigning with this team unless it’s for like 8 mil or less. Which is not happening obviously. Not do I want JT back for anything over like 4 mil</div></div>
He's never gonna agree to it and in open market can get what he's getting or more. Cause honestly after seeing Hyman leave us and dominate with EDM thats my fear with Marner. He goes to pick the team and when they make the playoffs he gives them 3 goals and 7 assists and helps them go to R2.
Both sides of the Marner camp rn have a valid argument rn and it sucks. As he's just gonna be another guy we drive away and then has more success elsewhere. Kadri still be laughing at us rn
JT time is up guys to slow and these playoffs was more of a ghost than Marner. Other than the PP goal noticed him on the Knies OT winner thats it
If TOR decided to stick to the young guys but build a very balanced team around them with JT's money things could be interesting
But again so many other factors involved
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
7 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>If it truly is going to be the last year for Marner and Tavares, fine. I just know if they’re kept around they’re probably going to get resigned, which would be a horrible idea</div></div>
If the leafs let JT walk and signed Marner to 11m x 6 years I wouldnt be ecstatic but wouldn't be to bothered either as then you have JT's money to work with which is a lot
Can go get a cheaper 2c and other stuff like Bennett
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
7 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>I think you are massively underestimating how attractive this trade would be for Blake.
It's much easier to sell that he moved Villager and Clarke for Marner than having sold a top 6 PWF for 14 years of dead cap.
If he goes through with the buyout he's likely fired or close to it. This trade buys him time.</div></div>
LA would not trade Clarke for Marner. Marner's a pending UFA and costs more than PLD and like him underperformed.
Last thing LA wants is an future 11m wing
TOR should want nothing to do with PLD either. Guys not been good either
LA's options rn are keep PLD, trade him for almost nothing to create cap space, or buyout
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
8 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>Right now the media consensus seems to be a PLD buyout. Seems like you aren't factoring in that they would save 14 years of dead cap.</div></div>
Look how cheap the buyout is for LA. Who cares if its 14 years caps going up and the money can be used elsewhere. LA had 0 need for PLD and now the trades biting them
<img class="for_img" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMjUHIWbMAABo07?format=jpg&name=large" alt="GMjUHIWbMAABo07?format=jpg&name=large">
But I think LA is just gonna keep him and hope he rebounds
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
8 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Hyman didn't score in the playoffs when in he was a leaf. Why does everyone outside of TO? Is it because the core? They stop everyone else on the team from scoring?
That defies logic. It can't be some strange supernatural reason.</div></div>
Hyman didnt score then but how do we know what were seeing in EDM would not have happened
What we had wasnt prime Hyman and what EDM is getting be prime Hyman as through the years he's just been getting better and better.
Hyman had 7 playoff goals in 1 round for EDM. TOR scored 12 goals total
While we will never know losing him is biting them especially with the issue of this team having the inability to score via playoffs
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
8 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsForLife</b></div><div>Seeing a lot of stuff on this forum on whether or not the Core 4 would succeed in the playoffs under different coaching (HC and all ACs). What would everyone think of this idea:
Obviously, fire entire coaching staff. Since Tavares’ and Marner’s contracts end next year, they have 1 year to prove it was the coaching that was the problem. If the Leafs follow this plan and go on a run, that’s great. If not, their contracts are off the books.
If you don’t like this idea, fair enough, but explain why you think it wouldn’t work.</div></div>
Here's my argument for those who blame Keefe for the scoring issues and no I am not letting him off either its just not a clear cut case as many people think
In TOR in 13 of 14 couldnt get more than 3 goals
This was an issue that started game 5 of the TBL series last year so okay its Keefe
Hold on
Game 1-4 of that series TOR scored 3 goals game 1, 7 game 2, 4 game 3, and 5 game 4. Was Keefe not HC then?
Special teams were also good that series to. So what happened between game 4 and now
But after game 4 they just seemed to lose their playoff scoring Mojo to where the one time they scored 3 was with Boston's 1B in net.
Maybe a new coach or system will fix the issue but yea its a problem that needs to get fixed otherwise we go no where. Dont matter about regular season, or whose in net/dcore if we have trouble scoring especially on the PP were going no where.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
8 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>How many of you would do this trade:
Marner for Dubois, Clarke, 2025 2nd, 2026 2nd.
I think this is a pretty realistic return for Marner.</div></div>
LA laughs and hangs up
PLD was bad but trade him + Clark and a pick for Marner who also didnt look great in the playoffs, is a pending UFA, and is making boy who we kidding ourselves
They would rather just buy PLD out
If Marner goes most Leafs get is 75 cents to the dollar for him
Its gonna be a very ugly trade like look at what Guentzel got
Thats the type of offer I see teams throw for him
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
8 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Well it's pretty clear by now that Shanahan is a huge problem. I am not a fan of Treliving either.
So at this point, what's the best idea, lose a Marner trade, spend that cap on more Bertuzzi's and Domi's? How many goals did those guys score in games 5 through 7?
That's where I get really annoyed with this talk, blame Marner or JT or Matthews and say it's the lack of depth that kills them. Well Bertuzzi and Domi are supposed to be difference makers in the playoffs and made no difference for TO.
Willy made a difference. Matthews when healthy made a difference. I am not sure what to do with Marner. But the coach has to go and the Blueline needs to be fixed. It needs to get younger and more mobile while also being physical.</div></div>
Again its not about that but building depth and creating balance
Having 2 or 3 guys combining for Marner's money aint bad
Imagine if we kept Hyman
Hyman's a guy TOR sure could use rn and he's making less than 6m.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
9 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Can't see any team wanting to give up much for Marner/Nylander when if they have the cap they could sign Stammer or Reinhart cheaper. Or for 11m, can obtain two pretty good UFAs.....which is sorta of the same thing the Leafs and their fans may want.
Gotta think Tavares and Marner are here in 24/25....but doubt if they are Leafs in 25/26.</div></div>
I mean Rein will cost the same as either on open market
Stammer really is a PP merchant at this point
I could see teams have interest its just were probs at most getting 75 cents to the dollar for either rn
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
10 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fangm</b></div><div>I think it is worth considering moving both Nylander and Marner. Not saying that Nylander was bad or didn't show up, but the returns could help the team, AND with Reinhart and Stammer available as free agents, you might be able to replace them cheaper and still have depth up front.
It really depends on how things shake out, but I see a version of the team that has both of them gone.
I also think moving Rielly could be worth considering. We all love him but maybe it forces Tre to find a true elite #1.</div></div>
Rielly wont waive that is 100% for certain. Guys committed here and is the longest serving Leaf and should be the captain
BOS got to him and while I aint excusing the poor performance compared to what we saw in TBL its something to note for Brad when he decides to work on this WIP dcore
Forum:
NHL Trades
10 hours ago
Thread:
(WSH/TOR) - Edmundson for 2024 3rd (NYI), 2025 5th (CHI)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>They averaged under 2 goals per game, but thank god they had Lyubushkin and Edmundson to sit back and watch.</div></div>
Ironically Edmundson had some prime chances this series and honestly wasnt bad nor Lybushkin for what was expected
To bad the big guys but Willy forgot how to score lul
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
10 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
https://twitter.com/DeuceDoucette/status/1786975559546802183
Honestly not wrong
Forum:
NHL Trades
10 hours ago
Thread:
(WSH/TOR) - Edmundson for 2024 3rd (NYI), 2025 5th (CHI)
He was fine for playoffs just the issue is this team couldnt score more than 2 goals.
Still remember him leveling someone
Would not mind bringing him back for the third pair but were gonna need some other guys who can contribute offensively
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
10 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>When the Leafs were ahead 1-0 Gregor make a poor, unnecessary shot to far side of the net, the puck ringed around the boards an the Bruins rushed back swiftly. I said to myself "oh, oh," and the Bruins tied up the game on that play.
It reminded of game 7 in Boston in 2012 when the Leafs were ahead 4-1. A poor pass from a Leafs Dman into Kadri's skates at centre, was picked off (by Lucic i believe), Leafs were then outmanned in their zone, and it was 4-2. Well we know what happened after that.</div></div>
Gregor has been gone since Jan
I dont see Brad bringing him back and if he does he goes to Marlies
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
10 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 7 - Shambles
Will say this
Could I see the core 4 come back under a new HC and system yes
Do I think its wise to give em 1 more shot when they have had so many...NO
This group of 4 guys will have been together for 7 years and within that time have gone through 2 head coaches and have only won 1 round
Its time for them to be split whether its Marner or JT one has to go.
We need balance and have headaches now from can Woll stay healthy enough to be the #1 going forward and what do we need to do to get depth scoring/improve this Dcore with the cap we have
Marner or JT going solves this headache to a degree.
Now if they do all come back under someone new and win the cup 2024-2025 will eat my words but I just cant see them winning nor this team as we are diverting to much of the cap into 4 guys.
Anyways lets see
Forum:
NHL
11 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>If Mitch Marner is DeMar DeRozan, then who is Kawhi Leonard?</div></div>
Well DeMar has 2 years on his deal and was also packaged with Poetl (top 10 pick) for a single year of Kawhi
It was a very big gamble of a trade that if Raptors didnt win a cup Masai was fired
I just cant see TOR getting good value for Marner nor despite this we see Marner waive. As whats different between this and MTL
While im not saying to or not to trade I feel the plans just ride them out then decide for the following season what they want.
Forum:
Toronto Maple Leafs
11 hours ago
Thread:
Leafs 2024 2025 Offseason Discussion Part 1: Kill or Be Killed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Messier99</b></div><div>Another minor problem here is Kampf. He was Keefes guy - but making $2.4M for the next 3 years.
It's only about a $0.5M overpay, but it does take up a spot that could have been filled by a sub $1M junior/Marlie. Especially a problem for 25/26 season.
Reaves is not a huge problem as I think he is only a $250k cap hit if buried in the minors.</div></div>
Kampf really was not an issue this playoffs and I thought once they finally found him the proper linemates he was fine
Like I liked the gritty little 4th line.
The main issue I saw TOR third line in any way it was formed just couldnt score. Lots of chances but just zilch from it
Last year TOR had a third line of Knies-ROR-Acciari and that line produced
TOR needs to create balance this summer in both the forward group and Dcore
Target some nice 2-way guys who can move the puck, have some speed, can play almost anywhere and just help this team out
Forum:
NHL
22 hours ago
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brian2016</b></div><div>Marner needs to be dealt. They will never be a contender with him making 13% of the cap, or potentially more on his next contract. He should have played his last game in TOR.</div></div>
In general get he's the whipping boy this year but we cant give the others except Willy a pass
Matthews was not good
JT was not good
Rielly was not good
Im not excusing him but at the same time all the others get equal blame
Matthews scored 69 goals this year and while he missed 2 and wasnt 100% game 1, 3 and 4 non factor
Maybe with a new HC boyz will finally wake up this time of year
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