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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2020 at 5:14 a.m.
Thread: Oilers Recover 2020 Draft Picks Change D and G
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>U forgot demelo and Braun both of which are better targets. Hamonic will cost 4 mill to sign and not cost us a 1st same with Braun. Demelo will cost 3.5 and is the better fit. As for your value of Larsson + kharia laughable considering both are not even close to 1st pick worth territory

In general this is a yikes and a no thank you as there is so much wrong with this.</div></div>

Demelo and Hamonic are likely to be signed by WPG. They desperately need D. Hamonic is from WPG and it is where he wanted to be dealt when he moved from NY to CGY because of family. I'd be shocked if he doesn't sign there. He also underperformed in CGY and so I question whether TOR would really want him anyway. I feel like EDM dodged a bullet when CGY beat us out in the Hamonic sweepstakes. WPG liked Demelo and I don't see why they won't be able to reach a deal. He's a decent option if he reaches the market but I don't think you get the same toughness from him that you do from Larsson, which has been part of the criticism with TOR---namely, their D aren't hard/physically demanding to play against. As for Braun, I don't see him as good as Larsson by a significant margin. He's an aging, 3rd pair dman. Larsson is six years younger. So, knock yourself out on Braun, I guess, if you disagree. The fact that you think the value is "laughable" isn't supported by comparables. So, while I'll admit the 1st is a reach, it's not out of line with the two picks or picks and a prospect that other mostly lesser or older dmen have yielded, especially given TOR's needs and Larsson's age, contract, player type, handedness, and what's available on the market. Two 2nds or Dermott (b/c of 3LHD logjam in TOR) are other possible returns but I'd need to rework some things to get a contract done for Dermott. I'm sure, even if it were ultimately a no from TOR, the ask is reasonable and would be met somewhere in the NHL. Adam Larsson is a bonafide second pairing dman on all but maybe a handful of NHL teams that are unusually stacked on right-D. He has played top pairing for most of his time in Edmonton and is capable of that in the defensive-minded support role.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2020 at 4:42 a.m.
Thread: Oilers Recover 2020 Draft Picks Change D and G
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>And Buffalo doesn't want him or his contract back!</div></div>

I think he'd make a lot of sense there, especially with all the turnover in the bottom six. He's capable of netting 10-15 goals and can play up and down the lineup as needed. He adds some real aggressiveness and he's fast. He's a guy that can change momentum with hits, fights, and crazy eyes. Won over Oilers fans who hated him with a passion because of his cheap shot on Sam Gagner, a very popular Oiler. The contract is an overpay for sure but very doable for Buffalo. He adds a dimension that I don't think they have. However, if not Buffalo, the asking price is fair and I think could be obtained somewhere. To my knowledge, he didn't burn bridges in Buffalo but feel free to correct me on this.
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 20, 2020 at 4:27 a.m.
Thread: Oilers Recover 2020 Draft Picks Change D and G
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Toronto laughs and hangs up

We can do better on the free agency market</div></div>

This scenario assumes Pietrangelo is off-the-market so you've got Barrie, Schultz, Vatanen, Hamonic, Tanev, Pysyk, Van Riemsdyk, and Ceci as some of the notable RHD available in free agency, two of which you've already tried. Knock yourself out. You are either looking at more money and/or a very different type of player than TOR needs. Larsson is a big body, who plays a hard game, and he can chew up 20 minutes a night. In Edmonton, he regularly plays the toughest minutes on the team and a clear majority of his TOI is defensive zone starts. Larsson and Khaira have both been on TOR's radar for awhile with rumoured returns of Kapanen, Johnsson, or Kerfoot +. Kapanen was just traded for a 1st and two additional players, including a good prospect. Expecting Larsson and Khaira to net a 1st is realistic, imo, and, if not from TOR, I'm sure there's a team in the NHL that would give up that asking price or, at the very least, two 2nds. Lesser dmen in the past year have regularly gone for a 2nd plus either another pick or a prospect.