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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2018 at 3:26 p.m.

Thread: Panarin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bambam</b></div><div>The Central is just so stacked right now. I would honestly sell out at this point an cash Seguin in for assets because I don't see them besting St. Louis, Nashville, or Winnipeg this season. The Stars core is still not as good as the Hawks particularly when it comes to the playoffs so I think the window has closed on this Stars core winning unless they pickup a shutdown D who can absorb big minutes like Josi, Suter, Petro, and Kieth do in the division</div></div>

Sell Seguin? Yikes. The Stars missed the playoffs this year because of one bad road stretch. It wouldn't even remotely surprise me to see them in the Cup final with another addition or two.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2018 at 3:25 p.m.

Thread: Panarin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bambam</b></div><div>So what are those two good trades then? Who is willing? Who are they for and what are the Stars willing to give up?</div></div>

Pacioretty would be a solid fit with us and could be had for fairly cheap.

Put Nichushkin back up with Benn & Seguin .. reunite Patch and Radulov with either Faksa or Spezza up the middle.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10, 2018 at 1:06 p.m.

Thread: Panarin

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bambam</b></div><div>Columbus won't move Panarin until they're fully convinced they don't have a shot of signing him long-term. A move like this would entice Seguin into resigning though. Have those two play together?</div></div>

Sounds like he wants out of Ohio in general, but yeah who knows at this point...

To me, I'd put Panarin on the second line to try to rejuvenate both Spezza and Nichsuhkin's careers. Then stack up the PP1.

Of course, I'd only really like this deal if he re-signs, even for just a 2-4 year deal or so.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 12:53 p.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goulet</b></div><div>That is quite the price to pay. All things considered, I wouldn't trade Marner straight up for Karlsson with a year left.</div></div>

Oh yeah, the extension would have to come for sure or this would be awful.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 12:52 p.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vanderm</b></div><div>Um, what?</div></div>

The obsession with forwards is incredible on this thread. The scoring will happen with or without Marner.... go get an elite puck distributor that will still help Freddy in the d-zone. If not, every game will be 7-5 win or lose.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:54 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Larkinisking</b></div><div>Yeah zero chance of Kyle Dubas doing a Mitch Marner for Erik Karlsson deal, Even with an extension. Marner is as untouchable to the Leafs Organization as Matthews is.</div></div>

Dubas is doing a great job but we can't forget who's really making the moves here. Shanny will do whatever it takes to end the drought as soon as possible - they won't have an issue scoring goals with JT in the mix, along with the depth all through the bottom 6 - but their D-core right now is shaky.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:51 a.m.

Thread: Take Ryan

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigBeardBurns</b></div><div>U forgot the part when u give EK to Tampa cause Dallas doesn’t want to give up Heiskanen</div></div>

It's hard to take any report seriously right now. But you are 100% right, if we don't give up Heiskanen - we have to sell the farm AND obtain Ryan. I personally think he's going to be a Bolt if Point and/or Sergachev are involved but who knows right now.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:46 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jp_harvey</b></div><div>Not a singke report reported Sergachev AND Point. No where. And not a single one reported that Tampa is even CONSIDERING trading Point...where do you get your information? Your contact at Blockbuster??</div></div>

Yeah Shawn Simpson is my roommate actually. He knows everything.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:44 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jp_harvey</b></div><div>You're giving out your best winger, your best d prospect, TWO 1st round pick and another good prospect all that for EK? Overpaying much? You're the type of dude that goes in a yard sale, sees something he likes, ask for the price (5 bucks), then gives the guy a 20 with a smile thinking "wow! That's a steal!"...totally out of touch with reality. I would be VERY hesitant to do that exact same deal for Connor McDavid...probably would not do it. It needs work, man</div></div>

Ok that's good stuff I can't lie but we're not really comparing these guys to McDavid, right? Marner is not worth the 8-10M he's going to get when the cap keeps rising. Leafs fans would schedule the parade if this happened.

To be fair, I don't necessarily think Liljegren needs to be in this. Can I have my 20 back?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:39 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>No, If Karlsson were 7-8 years younger yes. This is just ridiculous</div></div>

He's 28... Even if they only win one Cup in the next 10 years - at least the drought is over.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:38 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>You honestly think Toronto makes this deal?</div></div>

For Erik Karlsson and a prime chance to make a run within the next 2-years, yes. Maybe, if anything, they can spare Liljegren being involved - but the rest are expendable if they're getting Karlsson.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:36 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>This is easily the most ridiculous trade offer ever. Leafs give double what they need here. I am looking forward to seeing Sens fans meltdown when they find out what they get for Karlsson is not what they expected if this is a serious thought</div></div>

Ever? When the Bolts are "reportedly" involving Sergachev, Point + prospects and picks? Marner has a high ceiling but you may be overvaluing him if you think the Leafs wouldn't consider this - especially considering his upcoming tag. Elite defenseman are few and far between, they can replace Marner - potentially even in-house with Johnsson or Kapanen with the right opportunity.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2018 at 8:33 a.m.

Thread: Marner for Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Larkinisking</b></div><div>Talk is that Karlsson wants to play in the States, Most of the teams on his acceptable trade list are American teams like Vegas, Dallas and Tampa. No way i see Karlsson committing long term with the Leafs.</div></div>

Talk has been just that ... there's been zero reliable reports throughout this entire development. As long as the Leafs aren't on his 'No Trade' list - it could happen IMO.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 3, 2018 at 1:50 p.m.

Thread: Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>when one of your "key pieces" is a 25 year old goalie who has 3 times as many ECHL games as NHL games, you know your trade is a joke</div></div>

Kadri is a huge piece here.. and since when is 25 old for a goaltender - or any player stuck in the minors for that matter? It took Dubnyk multiple years and organizations to develop into what he is today.

And what leverage does OTT have here? They just watched Tavares leave the Islanders in turmoil (maybe not literally but in terms of what they could have acquired via trade earlier in the process)

This is all probably hypothetical but the Sens have to move him for something, no?

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 1, 2018 at 7:08 p.m.

Thread: Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresfuturecupwinners</b></div><div>Can't pile on crap and expect them to take it... Need to give up Nylander in order for this to go down.</div></div>

Kadri, Sparks and Bracco are key pieces here. Not to mention the depth + two 1st rounders. If Liljegren gets in this deal somehow I think they take it immediately - could possibly remove a 1st rounder.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2018 at 2:26 p.m.

Thread: Draft picks + young roster players (tank for Hughes)

Is tanking for one player even a thing anymore? The lottery has proven to be extremely unpredictable.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2018 at 11:57 a.m.

Thread: Tavares

Great points, I love what Vegas did this year and they could absolutely pay him more than any other team in the league without a doubt. However, I just don't see them replicating that. I think he looks at Vegas as another scenario where he'd have to carry the load. Again, the 'Golden Misfits' season was absolutely amazing but they would be one of my 'bust' teams for 2019 just based on them riding purely off emotion this past season. As for JT, I'd be shocked if he signs with Dallas to be honest but you can't ignore the tax benefits he gets from moving to Texas. The Stars could offer him 10-11M which could be less than the Leafs, Sharks,etc - although long-term he would still make more money in Dallas. Similar to why Radulov signed with Dallas over MTL despite the same exact price tag. I think the captain vacancy is an interesting point but I'm not sure JT is the type of player to base all his decisions on that. In conclusion, I think he stays with NYI - can't forget Stamkos let himself go into a sweepstakes only to re-sign with the Bolts. I could easily see Tavares staying loyal as the captain and franchise player.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2018 at 11:20 a.m.

Thread: Tavares and Karlsson

Impossible. They still have to re-sign Seguin, plus Nichushkin isn't even on here and will make roughly 3M for the next 2-years.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 26, 2018 at 2:02 p.m.

Thread: Only team that can get karlsson

Isn't the idea of taking Ryan to help bring down the value of Karlsson? Not sure VGK would have to deal this many picks if Ryan's salary comes with him.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16, 2018 at 11:41 p.m.

Thread: Dallas Stars 2018-2019

It's definitely a bit costly, but that's with the inevitable overpaying for UFA's in mind. I still think he gets every bit of 5M-5.5M AAV

Methot (3.9M) would come off the books at the end of 2019. We'd definitely need to lean on Heiskanen and Bayreuther firmly in our Top 6 to stay under the cap in 2020.

Brassard (5M) would also be off the books if they even went that route, leaving us plenty of room for Seguin's 3.75M raise to match Benn's AAV.

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