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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 27, 2020 at 2:20 p.m.

Thread: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Schlegel</b></div><div>Smith is worth about a second as a rental, which I consider the value on Galchenyuk + a fourth to be around.

Best prospect I'd do for Zucker is Hallander, but a tweener like Lafferty could also be added.</div></div>

Hate to see Lafferty go. I don't think he's a 1st liner or even a full time 2nd but I really don't think we've seen his best yet with all the moving around due to injuries.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:38 p.m.

Thread: Fair to all teams involved

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vegan_Knight</b></div><div>It's weird that I would feel bad losing Holden, but he has been very good wherever Vegas has asked him to play, top 4, LD, RD, PK. He has moved the puck well and been solid defensively.

But I think I would do this trade. But watch Coghlan pull a bit of a Marino next season lol.</div></div>

That's why I want him on the team.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:36 p.m.

Thread: Fair to all teams involved

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Canes are also deep from the right side as well with Hamilton, Pesce and Van Riemdsyk. Sure Hamilton's injured but Holden is not a valid replacement for him. Not good enough.</div></div>

Hamilton is pretty much done for the year. Golden is more than likely not the "golden Ticket" but he would be a cheap 2-3 RD pairing. (sorry, Holden)

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:34 p.m.

Thread: Fair to all teams involved

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MikeyThePensFan</b></div><div>I don’t understand why you want Sheary. He stinks. Sure if you put him with Crosby, he’ll score tap ins.</div></div>

He's be doing better than most of Sid's wingers as of late... They didn't curse the man out of town, they just couldn't afford his cap at that time.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:32 p.m.

Thread: Fair to all teams involved

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Simply put, they don't need Holden. They have Slavin, Gardiner, Edmundson and Fleury as LHDs. Holden is unnecessary.

Could imagine Canes being interested in Schultz as a rental though. With Hamilton's possibly long-time injury, there's an open slot for him...</div></div>

Holden is a RD though he is left handed.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:30 p.m.

Thread: Inevitable Boston Rebuild -BUILDING FROM THE BACKend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dubooty</b></div><div>What do you mean?</div></div>

I mean, seriously, unless you are just trolling....What the What? It makes no sense for either team(s).

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.

Thread: Fair to all teams involved

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BurgerBoss</b></div><div>Except Canes.</div></div>

Which Mc makes it unfair?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 4:25 p.m.

Thread: Inevitable Boston Rebuild -BUILDING FROM THE BACKend

What the What?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23, 2020 at 2:10 p.m.

Thread: Potential Haula trade and more

Don't mind the Schultz trade. If PIT is retaining 50%, would want to see some of the infamous D depth that Carolina has. A guy like McKeown would be a nice add.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 1:14 p.m.

Thread: Athanasiou

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>redw1n9s</b></div><div>Can't crack the 1st line....that's just not even close to true. See the problem here clearly is that you guys don't watch the games, you just see highlights and then lineups and assume things based on nothing.

AA has light years more ability than Rust...one is just playing with the greatest player of all time and the other is playing on a historically bad team.</div></div>

Does he play regular 1st line time?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 1:11 p.m.

Thread: Athanasiou

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>redw1n9s</b></div><div>No, that's not how that works. Acquiring Bjugs is a complete waste of time and something Yzerman would never do because it makes no sense.</div></div>

It is how it works and it makes sense because when a player looks better with more time on the higher lines (like he can't get with PIT), he looks better and can gain more ASSETS that a re-building team needs. Stevie Y has been a great GM but please don't forget that he is dealing with a VERY different situation than he was in TB. DET has such a void on minor league/drafted talent that every pick is needed.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Athanasiou

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>Even if he did make the big club a 2nd round pick takes at least 3 years to get to that level, 21 years old. Even 1st round picks never make the show.

NB is a cap dump, and in the world of Salary Cap hockey that costs something. You make it sound like trading Nick is some form of upgrade.

Please, remember we do not have to trade AA, he IS NOT a UFA player but a player who is a RFA for 2 more years. I doubt Stevie just gives him away. We are rebuilding and with this team in this shape might as well keep him to see if he rebounds.</div></div>

Acquiring Bjugs gives DET a player to look at and trade if he doesn't fit. Picking up players is picking up assets.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:55 p.m.

Thread: Athanasiou

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>redw1n9s</b></div><div>Please explain to me why the WIngs trade AA for a UFA in 2021 and a pick that probably won't be an NHLer....please.</div></div>

The guy is a 2-3 liner on most teams ( can't crack the 1st on DET by the way), had 1 really good year and you want other teams to bank the farm on him? He's a slightly more offensively gifted Bryan Rust. A 2nd on it's own is a good return.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:43 p.m.

Thread: Pens Preds Sens Shakeup

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Arom5477</b></div><div>Most teams would do well to steer clear from JG Pageau. He's a career 10% shooter. He's at almost 19% right now...

"Regression is coming." ---In the tone of Ned Stark</div></div>

"Give me a scotch, I'm starving." Tony Stark

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:32 p.m.

Thread: Schultz_NAS Galcheyuk_MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Arom5477</b></div><div>It's worked out so far...</div></div>

It's only worked because there have been so many injuries this year and the cap has been fluid.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 21, 2020 at 12:21 p.m.

Thread: Schultz_NAS Galcheyuk_MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Arom5477</b></div><div>I think he'd work well with Malkin. But it wouldn't hurt to have him on the third line.</div></div>
I see your point but the potential to having 2-3 4+mill a year guys relegated to 3rd line duties is hard to fathom.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 17, 2020 at 3:14 p.m.

Thread: Does buying out Martin Jones make sense

Doesn't show but how long has Nabakov been the goalie coach? Just wondering if another set of eyes on Jones might be productive.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2020 at 4:16 p.m.

Thread: Crazy Sharks rebuild and new goalie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldTimeHockeyFan</b></div><div>It's even worse to mismanage funds in a cap structured league. Grossly overpaid many players.</div></div>

Yeah. McCann at 3.5 isn't too bad but he really is nothing more than Rust/Tanev but can play C. MP, really good 2nd pairing, can't pay him more than Dumo. Riko I can live with, Jarry unless a Cup run gets a 2-2.5 show me. Labanc may just be Labanc (rupt) gambling on himself off of last year. Then there is Simon....I'm sorry, screw "metrics" but unless this guy is working the turnstyles before the game and sweeping up after, I have no Idea why he is in the NHL.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2020 at 3:57 p.m.

Thread: Would Vegas move Tuch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>In general, people on this site have a very short memory for the most part - just because a player is in the middle of a not-so-great year doesn't mean their value is all of a sudden 0. If PIT decides to trade Murray, there will be teams lining up to get a 2x Stanley Cup champion RFA that is still only 25 (soon to be 26) years old.</div></div>

A lot goes into where he is right now as well. In the past 4 years, he has been promoted to the NHL ( when most, if any thought he'd ever be. Though plenty after the fact had him pegged....) won 2 Cups, signed a multi-year/multi-million dollar contract, lost his Father and got married. Been a busy couple few years for a 26 year old guy.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.

Thread: Trade with NJ

If nothing else, PIT would hold the record for NHL players from Plano TX in the same year.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2020 at 3:35 p.m.

Thread: Reload I guess

Maybe take on Mark Pysyk back in the FLA trade (keep the Dillon retention) to help them out on cap to get the 1st. SJS could easily flip him to NYI for JHS, keep their 5th and maybe pick up a 4th.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 16, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.

Thread: Would Vegas move Tuch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Sabres, Sharks, Red Wings, maybe Hurricanes, maybe Blue Jackets, maybe Devils, Wild, Oilers, and Flames are all teams that PIT could probably call up about Murray to see if they are interested</div></div>

I've tried a few trades with BUF involving Murray for Miller (as a start, obviously other pieces) and have been torn apart for it. Murray hasn't been the same since Mike Bales left and PIT is very shallow at RD where BUF is pretty deep right now. It's the perfect hockey trade. I'd be fine with Murray, Gal (with 50% retained), POJ, 2021 2nd and 2020 3rd for Miller, Hutton, Fitzgerald and 2020 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15, 2020 at 4:09 p.m.

Thread: Would Vegas move Tuch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>I don't think PIT has the pieces to acquire Tuch. I think VGK would want the get a good young defenseman in a package if they were trading Tuch, and I don't think PIT has the defensive players that they would be interested in</div></div>

Ready now D or in a couple few years? I could get behind adding Addison for Coghlan, maybe adding a Vegas 3rd somewhere along the line.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15, 2020 at 4:07 p.m.

Thread: Would Vegas move Tuch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>My bad...missed that.</div></div>

What do you think PIT would need to add? I mean it was one good year but he has some pedigree. I wouldn't sell the farm but maybe the barn?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 15, 2020 at 4:04 p.m.

Thread: Would Vegas move Tuch

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>Not for that return!</div></div>

Hence, the starting with a 1st part of the trade...

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