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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 18, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
Thread: Retool for playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>That's a fair point

Jordan greenway could help or you could go after only one of Garland or Beauvillier and sign Barbashev? He's got size for that top 6. Greenway could go onto the fourth line and that would be a bigger lineup that's much much harder to play against</div></div>

Damn, I meant "<em>It's not about the size of the dog but the fight in the dog</em>"

And relating to your point, that's why I never understood why Nick Paul wasn't signed long term... which also pissed off Connor Brown who then wanted to be traded

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Norris - Batherson
Paul - Pinto - Brown
Crookshank - Kastelic - Gauthier


I really like that lineup. Paul and Brown would have been ideal for Pinto's development... not DeBrincat and Batherson who are more offensive wingers... Sometimes, you need more 2-way forwards than less.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.
Thread: this offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>Not to defend cat but the guy still had 66 points, yes a down year but played a high majority of the year with a rookie centre coming off major shoulder surgery Pinto and the third best winger on the team who is also a defensive liability in Batherson.

If he had of been playing with Stutzle and Tkachuk I do believe he would've been at or above career level norms and the narrative on the site rn would be different. But that's just my opinion.</div></div>

i dont necessarily disagree, but that is going to hinder his value. teams are going to be wondering if he can replicate a 40 goal season. it's a big "what if".
not to mention he's going to ask for 8-9m, and after a 60 point season... thats iffy.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
Thread: Curious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>I appreciate your breakdown here of the possible reasoning behind why Debrincats value may have slumped slightly! Can I give a rebuttal to this from a sens point of view?

Reasoning why his point total dropped in my eyes are his most used linemates were Pinto and Batherson. With Norris going down early in the season this was probably worst case scenario as Pinto is still getting used to the league and coming off of shoulder surgery, Batherson is a productive forward but also had a rough year based off of previous years.

I think not playing with the likes of Stutzle (Ottawas obvious top forward) or Tkachuk and Norris going down for pretty much the entire season is a major reason why you saw Debrincat's numbers slip it's not bc of necessarily being away from Kane Debincat but it was more so the linemates and the system that Ottawa plays (dump and chase) which aren't the fit.

I do believe personally as much as I love Debrincat as a player and am a sens fan that Pierre Dorion is a bit of an idiot and jumped the gun last offseason. He doesn't really know how what he's doing as GM or who to go after stylistically to fit the system. At this point he should probably fire the coach and bring in someone who plays a possession style to fit Debrincat, Norris, Stutzle, Batherson, Chychrun and Chabots style of play more so that they can actually succeed</div></div>

Very fair reasoning. Just looking at it as an outsider and giving why I’d imagine most people aren’t receptive to paying a large price. By no means do I think he’s a bad player. I think the blues would genuinely benefit from his goal scoring. But we are so strapped and are actually pretty solid on the wings right now that it doesn’t seem to be a good landing spot
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
Thread: Curious
Yeah I'm not doing that if I am either team

I don't see a fit with the Blues. Maybe something around Schenn and Neighbours?

PS : love the Description in the OP, damn Dorion is bad

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AC14</b></div><div>I don’t think washed up is the best way to put it. But there’s certainly reason for concern, and I can’t see him fetching near what Ottawa paid for him.

Last season wasn’t great for him, and it’s the first season away from Kane. Reason for concern, but minimal, he still produced at a decent rate.

His QO pretty much ensures he’s gets a large pay day. Nobody or at least no fan wants to see their team sign an undersized winger coming off his worst season in the first season of changed circumstances to 8m+/year. It’s highly volatile.

There’s also an odd frenzy of people way overvaluing cap space, but at the same time, most teams cannot fit in 8m+ on Debrincat and pay a large futures package with no salary going back the other way.

For the blues as listed above, the fit just isn’t there. We have too many holes and too many question marks and too limited cap space to fix them.

Also just a short aside after scrolling through some other replies, chances of the Blues moving Snuggerud or the 10th pick are very very slim.

Snuggerud had a fantastic season and plays a pretty blues style of hockey and the Blues haven’t picked near the 10 spot in a long long time.</div></div>

Keep in mind DeBrincat had to play with rookie Pinto as his center, a guy who had just missed a full season due to injury. DeBrincat would have produced more if Norris had been healthy. Both DeBrincat and Batherson suffered a lot from Norris injury, particularly defensively (offense comes from good defense). Pinto is good and will be great (will develop into a Danault type) but way too much responsibility for a rookie Center coming off a serious injury

DeBrincat needs to fit the team that will acquire him, a team strong at Center but that lacks goal scoring wingers. Blues are not a fit.

And I totally understand not wanting to move a prospect like Snuggerud, same as we didn't want to move Pinto and Greig, even for Chychrun
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 12:05 a.m.
Thread: Curious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>I knew he had a good year so figured he would be likely untouchable. Not saying you are but in most of the posts today seems like most people think Debrincat is "washed up" not valuable after last season so think he can still fetch a good return just maybe not a Jimmy Snug like return.

Side note what the hell do you think they do with their 3 first round picks then? Keep them or trade them? I assume the use the 10th OA but consider trading one of both of the other 2 firsts</div></div>

I don’t think washed up is the best way to put it. But there’s certainly reason for concern, and I can’t see him fetching near what Ottawa paid for him.

Last season wasn’t great for him, and it’s the first season away from Kane. Reason for concern, but minimal, he still produced at a decent rate.

His QO pretty much ensures he’s gets a large pay day. Nobody or at least no fan wants to see their team sign an undersized winger coming off his worst season in the first season of changed circumstances to 8m+/year. It’s highly volatile.

There’s also an odd frenzy of people way overvaluing cap space, but at the same time, most teams cannot fit in 8m+ on Debrincat and pay a large futures package with no salary going back the other way.

For the blues as listed above, the fit just isn’t there. We have too many holes and too many question marks and too limited cap space to fix them.

Also just a short aside after scrolling through some other replies, chances of the Blues moving Snuggerud or the 10th pick are very very slim.

Snuggerud had a fantastic season and plays a pretty blues style of hockey and the Blues haven’t picked near the 10 spot in a long long time.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
Thread: Curious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>I knew he had a good year so figured he would be likely untouchable. Not saying you are but in most of the posts today seems like most people think Debrincat is "washed up" not valuable after last season so think he can still fetch a good return just maybe not a Jimmy Snug like return.

Side note what the hell do you think they do with their 3 first round picks then? Keep them or trade them? I assume the use the 10th OA but consider trading one of both of the other 2 firsts</div></div>

It's more of the blues have a lot of winger prospects and we already have a lot of wingers on the roster so Debrincat makes little sense in adding another winger. I think Debrincat can get a mid to late first and a decent prospect but it won't be from the blues. We have Kyrou at 8 mil and then need to sign Buch in 2 years to a contract north of 8 mil. Adding another 8 mil winger on top of that makes little sense. Most likely the blues will try to fix the defense somehow if it is possible and that is where our late firsts come in. I doubt we trade them for a winger because we have enough of those
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
Thread: Curious
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cunningham19</b></div><div>I get that but kind of seems like jarmo is in win now mode with the comments he's made since the trade deadline and since the season wrapped up for the jackets. The one thing Ottawa doesn't seem to have IMO either is a good RHD they have numerous LHD to many of you ask me</div></div>

Sure, but they're going to fill positions of need before they trade for more wingers. They need at least one top 6 center and probably another veteran RD if they're going to compete this year. Those needs come way before trying to upgrade any of Gaudreau, Laine, KJ, or Marchenko in the top 6 wings. The only way they might consider Debrincat is if Laine is actually going to shift to center and that decision probably isn't made until at the earliest when a new coach is named and possibly not until training camp.