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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 9, 2023 at 2:17 a.m.

Thread: a lot of trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PeterStone</b></div><div>this quote is easily the funniest part "Habs seem to like veteran dmen"
Habs D this season
Harris , 2nd season
Guhle, 2nd season
Xhekaj , 2nd season
Barron, 2nd season
Kovacevik , yea, 2nd season</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fran615</b></div><div>You admit that you're dumping Ceci for cap issues to a team that gets NOTHING back and doesn't need that player... who is signed for another year?????????
Delusional.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SMH</b></div><div>montreal like physical d-man who can skate too, cece isnt a fit</div></div>

Savard, a veteran dman was signed by the habs, Matheson is also a vet, while majority of the habs d corps after are grown through their system. For some reason, NHL teams like having veteran presences to play with their young talent so why not take a free Ceci who is a serviceable dman and will almost guarantee value back at the deadline if you trade him with retention this year or next. The trade is built similarly to the Kulikov trade (from MIN to ANA), however, Ceci makes a bit more money but at the same time plays a more prominent role on his team. If not the habs, I'm sure a team will take him for free as there was interest in him this summer.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:43 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TCMonkey</b></div><div>TKACHUKS and KASSIANS don't mix. No chance Ottawa does this. If you've heard otherwise you've heard wrong.</div></div>

You're likely that Ottawa doesn't do it but a team out there is gonna do it just because they think toughness is the answer.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KiSS_My_Asthma</b></div><div>I actually think you could get as much as a 2nd rounder for Kassian if you're willing to eat 1-1.2 million of his deal. Someone like Pittsburgh could want him for his size.</div></div>

Not sure if Pittsburgh has the cap to fit him even with the retention but I don't think the value goes much higher than the 5th even if they retain 1-1.2 mil.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Mayfield offer is a hard no for isles. Ottawa isn’t trading anything for Kassian. Klefbom deal is back loaded so moving it depends on if the deal is insured or not.</div></div>

OTT has been interested in Kassian for a while, even though I also think it's a bad trade for them, we've seen worse trades happen before. Klefbom likely isn't playing again so just an LTIR contract for them.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>It’s not remotely fair lol. Isles have no need for Foegele.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>At minimum Mayfield costs what John Manson did. Offering Foegele and a 2024 second ain’t gonna cut it.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>It’s almost like the fans who watch him the most know his value… 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️</div></div>

Manson deal was a 2nd and a decent prospect. Mayfield deal is a 2nd and an NHL player. The values seem very similar to me. There is no team that'll offer more than that for a guy who is playing bottom pairing minutes on a non playoff team. Just because you're not winning the trade doesn't make it unfair, the isles get value back for 3rd pairing guy who is likely to walk after this season anyway. And as for the fans who watch him, they're fans for a reason, fans typically overvalue their players (look at any MTL armchair), if a fan of neither of these teams looked at the deal I would beleive they'd think it's even.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Too little for Mayfield lol</div></div>

You got Pulock and Dobson playing in your top 4, that leaves mayfield with bottom pairing minutes and little special teams time. It's in the best interest for the isles to trade him before his contract is up. They get a pick which will help them with their weak prospect pool and a player who can play right now. I've only seen isles fans say Mayfield is worth more so I'm gonna assume it's a fair deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:23 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Comparing Mayfield to Ceci is like comparing a Lambo to a Prius. Smh</div></div>

Which one is which?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:22 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>kassian is a blockhead with negative value who the sens don’t want anyway</div></div>

I agree with you, but the sens have had interest in him for the past year, and DJ smith likes him so it's not a far fetched move to me

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2022 at 4:21 p.m.

Thread: Oilers next year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>smokewiseganja</b></div><div>Seems like a lot for mayfield? And that leaves no spot for Broberg. Also eakin is trash. We can build a better 4th line than that</div></div>

Mayfield is pretty solid from the back end. Kind of similar to Ceci I think, and if they're playing Keith, they need a good dman paired with him. That's also why I don't have Broberg playing as the the left side is already filled up but I assume there'll be injuries throughout the year so he'll get good playing time anyway.

The 4th line is in the air for me, I don't know who to put there with the limited cap space they have. So it's not ideal but something like that is probable.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2022 at 5:25 a.m.

Thread: Watch For The 2040 Draft

Congrats!

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.

Thread: MAF will be a wild and they will give us a first

All teams say no

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 19, 2022 at 1:59 a.m.

Thread: this is the oilers team

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>i think sanheim probably gets another significant piece on top of the 1st considering what chairot got as a rental</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bagelbob</b></div><div>mayfield is better, cheaper and has more term than chiarot plus is a righty with all his same physical, playoff hockey characteristics. this doesn’t get it done.</div></div>

If the dman market revolves around the Jones and Chairot trades, it would be in no teams' interest to make a trade for a defenseman. Both takes make sense, but I sure hope dmen nowadays aren't overpriced.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 12, 2022 at 7:21 p.m.

Thread: Just an idea

Korpisalo is worse than Koskinen, Barrie is only slightly worse than Klingberg offensively speaking. Not worth giving up all of that for a downgrade in goaltending and a small upgrade defensively

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 12, 2022 at 7:18 p.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>No, no fan base wants barrie at 5.5. But I guess all other fan bases are wrong except the mighty oilers</div></div>

if you can't get the cap hit right don't bother making an argument

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11, 2022 at 2:28 a.m.

Thread: 3 way with Ott and EDM

3 what now with Ottawa and Edmonton?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11, 2022 at 2:25 a.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>No. the sabres have been wanting to move him since his bad year. No one wanted him. Just like no one will want barrie. Funny thing, Okposo is actually worth a 2nd now, as I have other teams wanting him. NO one is adding period, because the contract blows. He was paid for what he did, not for what he will do in the future. But keep telling yourself he is worth something, it just might come true.</div></div>

But you're ignoring my reasoning as to why I see him getting value back. I'm not saying he's worth the return, but he will get something considering the past returns for other dmen.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>He is a cap dump. He makes too much money for his talent. Hence why every oiler fan wants him out. Just like the sabres have wanted okposo out (this is the first year he has played close to his cap hit) There are players like him all over the NHL, and if they are moved, it cost the team to get rid of that contract. Barrie would cost at least a 2nd to get rid of.</div></div>

The difference between Okposo and Barrie is that, Barrie has one bad year in TOR and this year in EDM. While Okposo has been bad for 3-4 years straight prior to this season. Barrie had interest while he was a UFA, oilers shouldn't have to add a sweetener for team to grab him. Again, he's still a decent NHL player, just not quite the right fit on the oilers. Also, if you can tell me a recent trade where a team trades an okay NHL player along with a sweetener for a team to take him on then I might reconsider my decision.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 11:38 p.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Every oiler fan has him traded to free his ****ty contract. But yeah, you are right, everyone else is wrong. :awesome :awesome :awesome</div></div>

I never said Barrie was good, he's still an NHL dman just a sheltered role with pp time now. I agree that his contract is bad but you rarely see NHL calibure players being a cap dump now. Plus we've seen worse trades involving worse dmen before. I don't think there's a trade in recent memory where a team had to add value for another team to take an NHL player. Maybe Barrie won't get a 2nd, but a 3rd is more probable considering the Keith and Schmidt trades.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 11:16 p.m.

Thread: Hockey

Varlamov won't likely play in Canada. Might have to move him to an American team. He also will only fetch you a pair of 2nds at best (more likely a 2nd and 3rd and maybe a lower end prospect).

I'd trade mayfield away for a forward, picks or prospects. He has an expiring deal at the end of the year and the isles don't have cap or roster space for him. A bottom pairing dman is easily replacable, and the value you can get back for him will be fairly nice.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 11:06 p.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>lmao. No one is giving you anything for Barrie. 3rd pairing dman making 5.5 mil with term. It will cost you to move him.</div></div>

Really doubt the oilers would have to add to move on from Barrie. Nobody can speak for NHL teams' management but with the past records of horrible trades for dmen, I can certainly see Barrie getting back some kind of value even if it is low. The only cap dump trades we see today are guys who are healthy scrathes or play in the minors.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10, 2022 at 11:03 p.m.

Thread: playoffs or someone is fired aka holland

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabresparaavida</b></div><div>Sabres decline, we likely want a sound defensive rd to pair with Power, not another offensive defenseman.</div></div>

Yeah that makes sense, I know Buffalo needs RD just not the type Barrie is. Another suggested I had was moving him to Dallas with Klingberg likely going to FA.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 9, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.

Thread: azeg

i don't know what this is

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 7, 2022 at 12:58 a.m.

Thread: 3 TDL Trades that I think are fair

I'm pretty sure all teams would say no

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5, 2022 at 2:58 p.m.

Thread: Realistic Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GrinReaper</b></div><div>We only need one RD, we are not playing a RD on the left side
Seattle declines
Fair trade for Mayfield</div></div>

Teams have no problems playing Left handed players on the right side so it should be the same for the oilers and Braun. There's a huge 2LD hole on the team and the cheapest option that helps strengthen the team defensively would be Braun.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5, 2022 at 2:57 p.m.

Thread: Realistic Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>UBS_ARENA</b></div><div>NYI and SEA decline. A rebuilding seattle isnt overpaying in futures for barrie and islanders need a 1st at the very bare minimum for mayfield.</div></div>

It's a fair price I think for Mayfield. The value adds up to be probably on par with a 1st and I think it works out in favour for both teams.

I can see why SEA declines given their position in the standings but I'm sure a team out there would take Barrie for a similar price.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 5, 2022 at 1:04 a.m.

Thread: Realistic Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FilthyMitts05</b></div><div>Rather keep barrie and get chychrun but were not giving up a ton in these trades so their not bad for what we are getting</div></div>

I like Chych but he's gonna cost way too much for what he can bring. I don't want to sacrafice too much of the future for a 2LD, while we have Broberg who can play there in the next 1-2 seasons.

Barrie is too much of a liability for me defensively and doesn't fit in well on the team. The back end needs to be a little more sound defensively and heavier (as seen from last game), so Braun would be a good cheap fit that I think will improve the team.

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