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Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 7:34 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>People like to laugh at Benning before all else.
<strong>Lets counter some arguments:</strong>
- they kept pearson but not toffoli: yes. We have room next year. There was no room last year.
- now there's no cap for the big RFAs: benning has proven that he is very good at dealing with RFAs, assuming 7x3 for both players, there's still plenty of cap to work with. More if Loui is bought out and Beagle rides LTIR (his injury seems bad)
- pearson isn't worth this money in this market: Probably not, but how much of an overpay is it? A quarter million? He was a huge asset for the team last year and has taken a step back like everyone else. His impact on improving Horvat's game is alone worth it. This is a locker room guy to the same extent as Tanev or Markstrom.
tldr: this is a bit more money than I was wanting, but not to the level of laughing at. even if he plays the 3rd line, he's the first player we have had in that role that looks like a decent bottom sixer in some time. Good signing? Nah.... but it ain't a bad one either.</div></div>
<strong>Lets counter your counter arguments as well:</strong>
<strong>OG</strong> - Why keep Pearson but not Toffoli? <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - We have room next year. There was no room last year <strong>(Wrong)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - They had room for Schmidt ($6,000,000) + Holtby ($4,300,000) + Virtanen ($2,600,000).
<strong>OG</strong> - Pearson isn't worth this money in this market <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - Probably not <strong>(Good start ... should've stopped there)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - And he's especially not worth it for an extremely cap-crunched team with their 2 best players unsigned.
<strong>OG</strong> - Now there's no cap for the big RFAs <strong>(Correct)</strong>.
<strong>YOU</strong> - Benning has proven that he is very good at dealing with RFAs <strong>(Wrong)</strong>.
<strong>FACTS</strong> - Virtanen was just overpaid + Demko's cap-hit is 2-4 times larger than every comparable (and all had a higher career SV%).
$5,000,000 x 5 years (age 25) | after 60 NHL games | career 0.911 SV% | <strong>Thatcher Demko</strong>
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$1,300,000 x 1 years (age 25) | after 60 NHL games | career 0.911 SV% | <strong>Linus Ullmark</strong>
$1,500,000 x 3 years (age 24) | after 50 NHL games | career 0.924 SV% | <strong>Juuse Saros</strong>
$1,600,000 x 2 years (age 26) | after 40 NHL games | career 0.928 SV% | <strong>Jack Campbell</strong>
$2,400,000 x 2 years (age 24) | after 80 NHL games | career 0.913 SV% | <strong>Alex Georgiev</strong>
$2,800,000 x 3 years (age 24) | after 70 NHL games | career 0.916 SV% | <strong>Mac Blackwood</strong>
<strong>TLDR</strong> - Get wrecked by the facts son.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 6:51 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>LMAO
Jim Benning does it again hahahaha</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LindyRuffRider</b></div><div>Jim loves his mediocre middle 6 guys.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CLR</b></div><div>Another bottom 6 player paid too much for VAN. Toffoli makes 4,25m$....</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Trickster</b></div><div>So which RFA is Vancouver losing cause this spells cap trouble .</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>doogiski</b></div><div>God damnit Jim, stop overvaluing the intangibles in ageing forwards.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>To play in Vancouver's bottom 6, the first digit of your cap hit must be 3.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Emoon</b></div><div>Why? He'll be pushed down by Hoglander and Podkolzin, good chance he ends up as another poor bottom 6 contract.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>faulkmydzingel</b></div><div>At least it wasn't 6 Million</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewLadd</b></div><div>Tyler Toffoli makes like 1 mil more lol</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheNorthStar</b></div><div>You'd think Benning would learn after last offseason...</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>I personally think it’s an okay deal Pearson is a good middle 6 player and it’s a good cap hit</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>yep, now lets wait for the Petterson for Manson trade lul</div></div>
<strong>Tanner Pearson</strong> ($3,250,000)
<strong>33</strong> Games Played
<strong>06</strong> Goals
<strong>05</strong> Assists
<strong>11</strong> Points
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<strong>14</strong> Goals / 82 Games
<strong>27</strong> Points / 82 Games
<strong>Tyler Toffoli</strong> ($4,250,000)
<strong>33</strong> Games Played
<strong>19</strong> Goals
<strong>11</strong> Assists
<strong>30</strong> Points
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<strong>47</strong> Goals / 82 Games
<strong>75</strong> Points / 82 Games
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 6:16 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
Pettersson and Hughes need new contracts this off season, and the only core player Benning has locked in long-term is Thatcher Demko.
Vancouver is still far from being a contender and Benning has cap strapped them. Incredible that this man still has a job.
Giving a three year contract + NTC to a guy with 11 point so far this year demonstrates that Benning hasn't learned from his history of bad contracts.
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NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 6:16 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
You'd think Benning would learn after last offseason...
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 5:44 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>LMAO
Jim Benning does it again hahahaha</div></div>
To play in Vancouver's bottom 6, the first digit of your cap hit must be 3.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 5:37 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
So which RFA is Vancouver losing cause this spells cap trouble .
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 8, 2021 at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Tanner Pearson (3 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
LMAO
Jim Benning does it again hahahaha
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 12, 2021 at 3:42 a.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
This contract is so bad that it makes the Matt Murray deal look good. Binnington is older than Murray and got an extra 2 years. Why? He's an average to slightly below average Goalie on a better than average defensive team.
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NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 9:50 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>If a key player/goalie on your team played a big role in bringing home the Stanley Cup, you make sure he's taken care of before he threatens to walk out on you as a UFA</div></div>
So the Caps should have overpaid Holtby 5 months ago because he helped them win the Cup 3 years ago and has been an average G since?
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 9:06 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
This is a contract that will likely be regretted by next season, if not this one. This is just real bad.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:48 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>I bet those 3 Stanley Cup rings on his fingers are shining brighter than diamonds in the sky ;)
The Stanley Cup and delivering profit to the shareholders should be the only two things that matter in NHL hockey.
Nothing else.</div></div>
right but when you sign a player based solely on his PAST cups.. bad idea
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:42 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
This contract will age more poorly than Markstrom's.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:36 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
That’s the price to pay for a Cup. I voted no simply because he has struggled to prove he’s a good starter and when you currently have a 908% I wouldn’t give you a 6x6
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>If a key player/goalie on your team played a big role in bringing home the Stanley Cup, you make sure he's taken care of before he threatens to walk out on you as a UFA.
There are some players/goalies that have made millions of dollars off of their teams and they won diddly squat.
Moral of the story.
I voted yes.
Like if you did too.</div></div>
lol because Seabrook turned out great
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 8:14 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheNorthStar</b></div><div>Price is a bit steep, but it was only two years ago where he practically carried the Blues to the playoffs and Stanley Cup. I'd say he deserved the money after his really good first season.</div></div>
the "he deserved his money after a good season multiple years ago" narrative in sports is so bad. i know some people deserve to be paid more than they have been but this is a buisness
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>There are countless examples of capfriendly geniuses being dead wrong
Wilson contract, Skjei contract, Karlsson trade, Domi - Galch trade, Domi - Anderson trade, and many many more
At this point it is really hard to take capfriendly's opinion on these things seriously</div></div>
You're not smarter than everyone for not having an opinion.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 7:32 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VijayPatel11</b></div><div>i bet that 90% of the comments on this thread will age badly</div></div>
I'm betting not...it's a pretty terrible deal for a guy with a .908 save percentage.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
Not exactly great for someone who looks like they've been declining since their rookie season.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 11, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
Thread:
St. Louis Blues signed Jordan Binnington (6 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheNorthStar</b></div><div>Price is a bit steep, but it was only two years ago where he practically carried the Blues to the playoffs and Stanley Cup. I'd say he deserved the money after his really good first season.</div></div>
He did not carry the team by any means. Sure he was good, but nothing more than an average NHL starter in the playoffs.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 11, 2021 at 8:12 p.m.
Thread:
New York Islanders signed Matt Martin (4 Years / $1,500,000 AAV)
If there was no salary cap, this would be fine, and you'd love to see guys like this get paid. But there unfortunately is a salary cap, and that makes this an oof signing
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 7, 2021 at 2:24 p.m.
Thread:
New Jersey Devils signed Sami Vatanen (1 Year / $2,000,000 AAV)
Excellent deal for the Devils.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 7, 2021 at 2:18 p.m.
Thread:
New Jersey Devils signed Sami Vatanen (1 Year / $2,000,000 AAV)
I thought he'd get more and go to a contender.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Jan. 6, 2021 at 10:45 a.m.
Thread:
Columbus Blue Jackets signed Oliver Bjorkstrand (5 Years / $5,400,000 AAV)
Dubas would have given him $8 million
Forum:
NHL Signings
Apr. 30, 2020 at 1:11 a.m.
Thread:
Vancouver Canucks signed Nils Höglander (3 Years / $1,125,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>that's great you named one player out of 279 top 9 forwards in the league.
Solid. That one guy.
Did you forget to mention he's on whatis considered one of the dirtiest teams of the last two decades?
I mean you know. It's a lot easier to hide a guy behind a 6'9 chara, and the legion of goons that team has had over the years. But hey! good call.
Then there is reality of teams with tons more skill, like the penguins. Who got swept in 4 games by the goons on the islanders with their 4th line playing big minutes making players dissapper.
But you know, just randong things like that constantly happening in the league. Don't worry about that..... field your team of 5'9 forwards. Those penguins clearly weren't skilled.
Nor TB or every other team that has been straight bullied off the ice. That NEVER happens. I mean with all that skil lthose 5'9 players willing go into the boards, they never have their head on a swivle playing tight and moving the puck to quick. Never!!!
what game were you watching again? Cricket or something. Sure as hell wasn't hockey.</div></div>
How are you this upset online at the thought that hockey players can be kind of small, and still be very good at hockey?
Forum:
NHL Signings
Mar. 31, 2020 at 2:37 a.m.
Thread:
Los Angeles Kings signed Tyler Madden (3 Years / $925,000 AAV)
I hope he was worth giving up for 10 games of Tyler Toffoli.
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