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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 10:59 p.m.

Thread: Late firsts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Daredevil514</b></div><div>Dude, fast track the trades in the last 2 years since the cap crunch where every dollars is almost worth a 1st round pick, there is no way in hell you get something positive for a bottom 6 center at 5M for two more years, no matter how you put it.</div></div>

It’s a good thing the cap is about to explode (positively) then

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 7:11 p.m.

Thread: Late firsts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Daredevil514</b></div><div>There is absolutly no point for the habs to make this without the picks. Pageau is overpaid by at least 2.5M at this point of his career. At full price, he has 0 or negative value.

He fits neither a need or the timeline of the rebuild.</div></div>

Pretty confident the isles could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Pageau without retention. Just because he’s likely the odd man out (due to our center depth) doesn’t mean he’s pure negative value. Right handed faceoff specialists who can PK/PP don’t grow on trees. Pageau was also a lot better when he got bumped up to the second line. His wingers have been rotating on him basically since he got here.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 6:30 p.m.

Thread: Late firsts

Isles would want to do this without the picks attached

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 6:29 p.m.

Thread: Unrealistic stunner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>Dobson and Barzal, maybe.</div></div>

Yeah there’s no shot for that lol. This works under the idea Kaprizov wouldn’t want to extend in MIN. Dobson being an RFA you’ll continue control/extend long term. He and Faber down the right would be the best in the league. I think freeing up the cap space here in the example is huge too. The forward group still looks good even without him.

Could sign Elias Lindholm instead if Rossi is traded for a winger? There are a lot of options that get opened up

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 3:25 p.m.

Thread: Unrealistic stunner

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot723</b></div><div>I mean, I would hate to give up Dobson but this is kind of a no-brainer. A first line of Kaprizov-Horvat-Barzal would be practically unstoppable.</div></div>

It is pretty much the only scenario I could stomach trading Dobson. It’s definitely a gamble on Spurgeon. Need to fill the RD hope we would be creating. An extra year on the cap compared to Lee too

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 8:53 p.m.

Thread: Unrealistic stunner Isles POV

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>A line of Hyman McDavid Draisital isn’t 100% more dangerous</div></div>

McDavid and Draisaitl are not always together though. They are separated plenty throughout the season.

Also that is not what you should be focusing on looking at this ACGM lol

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 10:44 a.m.

Thread: Cirelli for Dobson

Zero shot

Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 9:53 a.m.

Thread: Islanders talks reengaged

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1986</b></div><div>Does Lee waive his M-NTC. I do see Hawks going for this. Move up in the draft and get a vet for Bedard. Only reason why I don't see Hawks doing it if they have players in the minor system that are able to make that jump.</div></div>

He played at Notre Dame, I think he would go to Chicago. But I don't think the Isles should retain the $2m

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 11:56 p.m.

Thread: Get out of here

Go to Plan B because it's certainly not going to be Dobson

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23 at 11:21 a.m.

Thread: Mtl playoffs 2025-26

I think Pageau will be traded before the 25-26 season and it will not involve retention. Perhaps a 'hockey trade' with some salary coming back

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23 at 11:20 a.m.

Thread: Not realistic just angry

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>What are you so mad about?

The Islanders don't deserve to be in the playoffs. 16 loser points</div></div>

They could have won both games. That's why I'm mad.

And the Bruins had 15 OTL, where is your gripe about them? Isles have TWENTY FIVE blown 3rd period leads this season. If they could hold onto that like the Isles of the past they could have pushed for the division. It's infuriating

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22 at 6:38 p.m.

Thread: Realistic Maybe

Would take that in a heartbeat if I was the Islanders. You really think that’s all Mangiapane goes for?

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 10 at 11:19 p.m.

Thread: Trying something new

Mike Reilly is a more than suitable LD3. I think we've had this convo before. I'd much rather him on a cheap $1-2m deal. Not sure Branny works here. If the Isles trade JGP they're gonna want his full cap off the books or a Chychrun type deal where we add a pick or two

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8 at 8:01 p.m.

Thread: My dream short term retool DONT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY

Isles should do the swap, but Pelech's NTC would complicate that. I'd be very happy with that/extending Chychrun

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 7 at 11:27 p.m.

Thread: Offseason - Anders Lee Open Discusison

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Honest question here. Now that it's #18...does that change your mind on the 2025 1st vs 2024 1st?</div></div>

I think I’d still prefer the 25 pick if Lou is truly going to go all out and revamp the roster this summer. There are a few younger guys who could be in play for the 24 first like Chychrun

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 3 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: massive risk big upside

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Islanders can have Norris for Pageau + Danny Nelson + your 2024 1st.</div></div>

How many shoulder injuries is Norris up to already? I can’t see that happening. Too big of a risk. If he was 100% healthy, probably do it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 5:16 p.m.

Thread: A wild offseason PT2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NucksnOilers</b></div><div>This is somewhat a concept of Barzal asking out, Dobson and Sorokin are most likely untouchable due to the scarcity of their contracts and positions but I'd argue Barzal isn't. He's going to be almost 28 when the Isles rebuild starts with 6 years left on his deal. If they're in a position where they can't compete due to the lack of talent + being in an extremely tough division (Carolina, New Jersey, The Rangers and one of the Jackets or Flyers will probably all be absolute juggernauts) he may ask out or at least suggest a change in scenery. He would bring back an absolute haul (as seen above) and would be a kickstart to a much needed rebuild</div></div>

He loves Long Island and Isles aren’t going to rebuild any time soon. This is just as much of a hypothetical as saying Kaprizov wanting out of MIN because they haven’t won and it’s not a desirable city to live in. We can do if and buts with anybody in the league lol

And in terms of value I think the isles could get higher end talent anyways. If Isles were to even consider trading Barzal they are going to want an elite prospect and high end pick. Think like Byfield for example. I don’t think Rossi is near that

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 4:48 p.m.

Thread: A wild offseason PT2

Isles are not going to trade Barzal. He is as untouchable as Dobson, Horvat and Sorokin. Isles would move on from Lee or Pageau if they are changing up their core

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 12:41 p.m.

Thread: Offseason - Anders Lee Open Discusison

I think I would prefer to make this a 2025 1st (lottery protected) with nothing coming back and use that 13th pick for a player like Chychrun (extended) now. But its interesting and something to think about

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26 at 5:17 p.m.

Thread: This would be nice

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>No way am i paying a 1st to dump Lee holy crap. Hes a 30 goal scorer who is going to bounce back. If he's getting paid too much fine, but not paying to dump him. Pay that to dump Mayfield or Engvall if you really want but no way Lee. This is all insane overreactions lol wow</div></div>

I love Anders, he hasn’t scored 30 since he hit 40 once. Guy can’t skate/keep up with his linemates and isn’t a net front force any more. If you want to make some real, meaningful changes to the roster, creatively finding a way to shed his full $7m cap hit is the way to do it. He’s a $4m player right now tops

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26 at 2:48 p.m.

Thread: This would be nice

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT declines</div></div>

Not so sure. I've seen OTT fans offer Chychrun up to the Isles for our 1st this year. I've also seen OTT fans trade their 3rd and 4th for Pageau. This is just combining them and saving OTT the picks. I think it's within reason.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22 at 8:48 a.m.

Thread: Would you trade Gaudreau

If you take back Anders Lee maybe? lol

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 12:02 p.m.

Thread: Offseason Series - CANADIENS

Isles might consider without the pick swap, but we have enough LD so even then I'm not sure we would do it

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 10:46 a.m.

Thread: reset for roy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tm0000</b></div><div>He's the only forward not named Barzal, Horvat or Nelson that has a significant cap hit and and won't cost assets to move out. That's the only reason to move him - they can create cap space and get an asset back rather than spending assets to do so.</div></div>

But you're taking a known net positive out of the lineup. Unless that extra $5m is somehow bringing in Guentzel as a UFA to replace Palms, I would rather keep him. Pageau might not return a lot but I don't think he's a pure cap dump. I feel like we can move on from him rather easily if we want to clear space. Lee will be the burden and I prefer to not buy him out unless it's absolutely necessary. I hate dead cap like that on the books

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 21 at 9:37 a.m.

Thread: reset for roy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tm0000</b></div><div>Palmieri is not a cap dump. At the deadline, Arizona got a 6th for Zucker who is 1) having a bad season (11 goals to Palmieri's 22) and 2) more expensive than Palms. I don't think they'll get much for Palms, but a one year rental on a cheap contract should be easily movable. I'd look at Toffoli as a comp - one year of him at $4.25MM was worth a 3rd and a good young roster player (Sharangovich). Palms is not going to be coming off as good a season as Toffoli was, so he won't return a package that good, but a 3rd or a 4th without the player seems reasonable.

I agree with the Hawks fans who don't want to pay for him though; he doesn't make sense for a rebuilding team. He'd only make sense for a playoff team that was looking for some secondary scoring with no long-term commitment required.</div></div>

I'll take it a step further. Why trade Palmieri at all? He's been fantastic under Roy. Best forward not named Barzal or Horvat. There are guys in the top-9F group who should be moved on from. Palms is not one of them

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