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ken_holland

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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 27, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
Thread: Dunn trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jetman</b></div><div>All of Canada would love it if you traded Larsson for Dunn....EDM then has two players(Barrie and Dunn) who is all offence and no defence...until their offense dries up too</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ken_holland</b></div><div>Ah but more offense can also improve our defense

Currently, Larsson cannot move the puck at all. So the puck is always in our zone when he's on the ice, and there's a higher chance of it ending up in the back of our net.
With Dunn (who is an excellent puck mover), the puck stays in the offensive zone for most of the time, where there's a lower chance of it ending up in the back of the net unless the net is empty.

Sometimes the better defensive player can be the one who doesn't play defense because he doesn't need to.</div></div>

Dunn is great defensively
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 31, 2020 at 7:29 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 31, 2020 at 7:12 p.m.
Thread: Salvaging our bad offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Larsson gets absolutely zero respect on this site and that blows my mind. Here’s a reality check oilers blueline before larsson zero youth had any hope of success. Oilers blueline with larsson suddenly have later round picks like bear and jones looking fully capable. Idk even costing hall to get larsson id do that move over and over again because of all the stability and long term benefits he’s already provided. I just don’t understand how sooooo few people can connect those dots. People that suggest he sucked even this past year blow me away because in January and February I thought was the best hockey ever seen of him. In my opinion you remove Larsson from this blue line right now your asking for a lottery pick and ignorantly wasting a year or mcdavid and leon.</div></div>

Saying you'd trade Hall for Larsson again is a massive yikes.

Also, if we'd be a lottery team WITHOUT Adam Larsson, then why have we been a lottery team WITH Adam Larsson the last 3 seasons?
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 29, 2020 at 2:41 p.m.
Thread: Goalie Bones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_27</b></div><div>Funniest statement I've ever heard right there.</div></div>

If you want a funny statement, why don't you go ask Ken Holland in a press scrum if he thinks Dylan Holloway is worth the 14th overall pick in the 2020 draft that, seeing as no significant hockey has happened for any of the draftees since, may as well have happened yesterday. I think he would think that's damn hilarious.

As far as your Foudy vs. Chinakhov thing, obviously a player who was reached for as compared to the consensus draft rankings is valued more by his team than others. Now maybe some GM's like Chinakhov more, and maybe some like Foudy more. I guess that is a debate we can't have as fans. But I am not talking about those players, who were not consensus 1st round picks. I am talking about players like Holloway who were ranked as a consensus 1st round pick by all analysts, who, while not GM's, are as close as fans will ever get to knowing what scouts in the league think in general about the range of players being valued by all teams. So that is the logic I use here, and the best logic we have available to us, unless you are personal friends with 31 GM's.