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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 2:35 p.m.
Thread:
if nylander and strome are out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>"pipe dream". No, pipe nightmare. 21 man roster, and no seventh Dman. That isn't how roster are built to win.</div></div>
no cap in playoffs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 1:57 a.m.
Thread:
Strome and Nylander
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>His contract would come off before their next deals need to get done. I added the third so you can trade your 2nd to move TJ onto a 3rd team if needed. I also retained Strome to help make the cap work for this year if you wanted to keep TJ but if I were you I would prob look for a 3rd team to absorb the salary.</div></div>
yeah i miscounted the years on that so that def works out - honestly i like TJ as a fit for this team. i made a ACGM essentially with this trade but you guys taking on ritchie and retaining on TJ. lmk what u think
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 1:55 a.m.
Thread:
hawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>If the Pens are in contention, I think they still take that trade.
The problem is, that 2023 3rd round pick is tied up with the Jeff Carter trade. It can’t be traded. Same with the the 2022 3rd.
You see the little “*” by the Pens 2023 3rd. If u click that, it tells you the same thing.</div></div>
ill take the 2024 then :)
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:39 a.m.
Thread:
hawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cooliny</b></div><div>Why are Canucks giving up a higher pick for a worse player?</div></div>
one is a rfa other is a ufa
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:32 a.m.
Thread:
hawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>These trades don’t make much sense</div></div>
which ones
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:31 a.m.
Thread:
hawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>krakowitz</b></div><div>Can't lock yourself in to that Johnson deal if he's going to be on the fourth line. There are other options to fill a similar role that don't cost $3.5M</div></div>
i've been talking to a hawks fan for a while now. this is the deal we agreed on.
johnson also boosts the PP
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:21 a.m.
Thread:
nylander and strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Lumping Kase and Brodie in as physical players is comical. And no Kase and Brodie don’t hit anyone. And Motte hits everything that moves..?? I don’t know where u are getting this from. But ok.</div></div>
mentally switched them up. motte is a hitter, kase is at least a good forechecker. you don't really need monster hits anymore, the games evolved past that.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:12 a.m.
Thread:
Strome and Nylander
my qualms here are not the money of the contract, rather the term. i don't think TOR wants to still be responsible for TJ's 5M when we have to resign matthews & marner.
is there any way a deal gets done, without TJ?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:10 a.m.
Thread:
nylander and strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>:mapleleafs:
Receive
Strome (50% Retained) + Nylander + T Johnson + 22' TOR 3rd
:blackhawks:
Receive
A.Kerfoot
A 3rd team could be added to accomodate Johnson contract more efficiently.</div></div>
a part of me doesn't mind this. lemme ACGM this to see if the cap works. which of these would you be willing to do:
a) take on ritchie contract
b) retain on johnson
c) pay the third team to retain on johnson
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:09 a.m.
Thread:
nylander and strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Would I personally.?? I don’t think it matters. But yes.
Even Holl playing RHD 3rd pairing minutes is worth 2M per and a 3rd round pick in trade in my opinion.
Even as a stay at home D-man, that doesn’t score often. But I like stay at home D-man. Not a fan of the flashy D-man that fans on here claimer for; Like D’Angello, Ghoustisbhere, V.Mete.
And somehow u found away to make the Leafs softer?? With both Nylanders on a team, you better put up 5-10 goals a night..lol.
And Dylan Strome is a pillow too; waste of 6’3, 200 pound body. He literally had 2 hits playing in 20 games one season. How is that possible in the NHL.?? Panarin even falls into 20 hits a season.
Though Johnny G has the record of 1 hit in 70 games..like wtf is that.?? How that’s possible I’m not sure.</div></div>
simmonds, muzzin, kampf, kase, sandin, bunting, brodie, and, to a lesser extent, tavares, matthews, motte, and dermott all hit. i'd much rather acquire skill & finishing (something the leafs desperately need) and give up justin holl who is easily internally replaced.
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 16, 2021 at 12:06 a.m.
Thread:
nylander and strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>I know you want this to work for the Leafs but its just not going to get it done. 23 and 24. picks with a low level prospect for a 24 year old who's just got a fresh start and has been known to produce at .5ppg or better + Nylander who had a decent rookie year before missing a year with injury. They will both be given chances</div></div>
i totally get what ur saying but i feel like this isn't that bad value.
i know you don't want to trade them, but if it came down to it, what would your mock be? i'm not saying you're going to commit to the trade, just an approximate mock trade so i can edit & use
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 11:43 p.m.
Thread:
nylander and strome
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LetsGoPens69</b></div><div>Pens are in. I wish I could accept it for them. I think the rumors are, the Leafs are asking for more than that for Holl though.</div></div>
would you do it for a 3rd?
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Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 11:08 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>No the value is fair. I just meant it would have to be changed around to work Liljegren in the deal as we have no RHD after Klinger. I’d love Liljegren, Amirov, and a first but feel like that may be a little greedy if we’re selling him as a rental. Maybe not. Depends on the demand I suppose</div></div>
i'd probably do liljegren and amirov for klingberg if that's of interest?
liljegren is nhl-ready which is why the leafs value him more, i'd think.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 6:14 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>TBH, theres probably not much by way of deal that either party would be agreeable to. Strome is playing again under the new coach and has looked much improved so a deal would need to consist of a quality player. I like Kerfoot but the salary commitments are a put off. Would prefer a prospect but the only few we would have interest in, you would probably want to deal for different players i.e. Sandin, Amirov....
Nylander is having a year to build up confidence and Fitness tho could be tempted with a 2nd round pick I imagine.
Kuba would require a good payment. He is a quality goal threat in the league and would need a 1st involved or a quality prospect and in all likelihood both for us to part with him.
All 3 are RFA so we have control over their next deals which gives more value to them and more leverage to us.</div></div>
would a 2nd, a 3rd, Holl, and SDA/Abramov be of interest in exchange for both strome and nylander?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 4:34 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Oilers4Days</b></div><div>Like the idea of getting Dylan Strome and Alex Nylander on the Leafs.
Forsberg and Fabbri also are good options.</div></div>
dylan and marner have history together. could be enticing. and nylander is a good depth scorer, and could even slot in at wing next to his brother.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 4:33 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigDaddyOvech</b></div><div>This might be bad take but I'm going to argue that the Leafs shouldn't make any trades at the deadline this year. Trading for a rental every year eventually depletes draft pick and prospect pool. With so many first round exits in the playoffs, the rental players aren't the missing piece in my opinion. I think Dubas needs to address the team and basically lay it out and say, this is the team. Now show up.
While I know the team is in win now mode, Dubas is also tasked with figuring out how to adjust the teams long term plans with the variable of a flat cap for 2 years. When he signed the big 4 contracts, it was with the mindset that those cap hits wouldn't look so bad around this year and forward.</div></div>
not a bad take by any means, but i'd respectfully disagree. while you are correct, rentals do deplete the farm system, i think that dubas & co have seen they need to address a pretty major problem: finishing talent.
so yes, i agree that the leafs shouldn't go after someone simply because he's available: and for that reason, klingberg makes no sense. they should, as you've said, let the team just go, as they've built it: their defense (i still think holl needs to go, or maybe be a 7d) is actually decently strong. klingberg, while a fantastic player, is not needed.
however their finishing ability is staggeringly awful. a player like forsberg or kubalik could help this. even strome & a nylander are better finishers than a lot of the leafs. i don't think the leafs should chase too far: if the bidding war gets too high (pavelski, even forsberg maybe) they should bow out. but they need to address this problem.
they also need to address depth and secondary scoring. so far, only kase is dependable (and even then, barely) to contribute. alex nylander & tyler motte would be great depth options, as would someone like fabbri or even kubalik (he would come in to push down either bunting or kerfoot and give depth scoring there).
in conclusion, i don't think the leafs should push too far, and they shouldn't simply go for the big fish because it's right there. but if the opportunity is there, and the fit works, and the price is decent so that it doesn't destroy the prospect or draft pool, then they should do it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 4:27 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Liljegren needs to be in the Klinger deal</div></div>
on top of the deal proposed? what about him in place of amirov or SDA?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 4:26 p.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>Both CHI deals are really non starters. The values are well short of what would be needed to convince us to move any of the pieces mentioned.</div></div>
what would you consider as a counter-deal?
i'd say the leafs only untouchables are probably robertson, and MAYBE niemela.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 15, 2021 at 1:52 a.m.
Thread:
TDL options
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Radu47</b></div><div>Age and type of _FA status should be more key here
Kubalik > Klingberg for those reasons etc.
Why does Hertl get Amirov but Filip not</div></div>
kubalik would be cause he's a rfa, but there's going to be a war for klingberg, less so for kubs.
same logic for hertl getting amirov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 1:18 a.m.
Thread:
Can you give me a random player
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Not enough players.</div></div>
got it. excited to see what happens.
want some more?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 1:17 a.m.
Thread:
Get Comeau
this made my day thank you very much.
sadly you've drastically undervalued what you can probably tear from the stars for comeau.
klingberg, heiskanen, robertson, and hintz only gets it started.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 1:16 a.m.
Thread:
Can you give me a random player
did we ever see what came out of this?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 1:13 a.m.
Thread:
Active Hawks Alumni
defense never was the hawks strength, was it?
just jokes. seabrook, keith, oduya, and hjalmarsson made up arguably the best top 4 in their primes.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 12:51 a.m.
Thread:
canucks fan overreaction
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>how does 2 firsts sound because jim benning loves 4th liners</div></div>
but dorion loves gambrell.
make it peterson, and maybe he considers.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Nov. 12, 2021 at 12:46 a.m.
Thread:
canucks fan overreaction
poor demko man.
that said, you could get more for miller and NJ likely doesn't want him nor do they want to give up severson.
strange thing to nitpick but ur not getting gambrell, for some strange reason. dorion sounded really weirdly ecstatic after trading for a 4th liner.
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