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Forum: Fauteuil - DGFeb. 2 at 10:37 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 1 at 10:45 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
Thread: Change of Scenery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You very clearly aren't getting it at all. I am not even debating the buyout because again his contract is buyout proof. He will not be bought out.

Karlsson was traded with 38 million in actual money still owed to him. San Jose retained 13% of that contract meaning that their owner will be paying him 4.94 million in actual money to not play for his team.

Huberdeau is still owed 73.5 million in actual money + 3.5M x the percentage of the year remaining (for arguments sake we'll call it 50% of the year so 1.75M). So a total of 75.25M in actual money. You are asking Calgary to retain 47.6% of his remaining contact (not sure how you got 38% for 5/10.5). Which means Calgary's owner would be paying Huberdeau 35.83 million to play for another team. Thats absurd</div></div>

Hahaha! I thought you were a fan. Not part of the Calgary Sports and Entertainment ownership group. That makes sense.
To be concerned about the 'actual money' that the player is paid???

Who cares what the millionaires have to pay? I am talking about the cap hit. That is what fans care about. Why do you care what the millionaire ownership has to pay. It means nothing to us fans.

Weird argument!
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
Thread: Change of Scenery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Huberdeau is buyout proof. But you clearly don't understand how much we would be paying Huberdeau to not play for us. This is worse than when people thought San Jose would retain 50% on Karlsson. And you want Calgary to add a top 10 pick 🤣</div></div>

If I do not understand, then explain it to me. The way I see it:
Year 1 of buyout: $7,904,762
Year 1 of trade proposed: 5M

Year 2 of buyout: $7,904,762
Year 2 of trade proposed: 5M

Year 3 of buyout: $10,404,762
Year 3 of trade proposed: 5M

Year 4 of buyout: $10,404,762
Year 4 of trade proposed: 5M

Year 5 of buyout: $7,904,762
Year 5 of trade proposed: 5M

year 6 of buyout: $10,404,762
year 6 of trade proposed: 5M

year 7 of buyout: $5,904,762
year 7 of trade proposed: 5M

year 8 of buyout: $904,762
year 8 of trade proposed: 0

year 9 of buyout: $904,762
year 9 of trade proposed: 0

year 10 of buyout: $904,762
year 10 of trade proposed: 0

year 11 of buyout: $904,762
year 11 of trade proposed: 0

year 12 of buyout: $904,762
year 12 of trade proposed: 0

year 13 of buyout: $904,762
year 13 of trade proposed: 0

year 14 of buyout: $904,762
year 14 of trade proposed: 0

The Karlsson trade is a good counter-point. The Karlsson trade was a 13% retention rate vrs the proposed 38% retention rate on Huberdeau *BUT* Karlsson was worth WAYYYYY more than Huberdeau is worth now. Karlsson had just scored 101 points. Not really comparable in my opinion.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2023 at 7:16 p.m.
Thread: Change of Scenery
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>5M retention for 7 years dude. Calgary would be better off letting Guentzel walk for nothing after this swap</div></div>

Why? What a weird way of looking at things. Let's assume Calgary is or would consider buying out Huberdeau. The cap hit for each of the seven years remaining would be *more* than what would be retained in the Penguins trade AND they would be taking a hit until after the <strong>2038</strong> season. This trade is an alternative solution to buying Huberdeau out and provides Calgary a way of 'saving' money vrs the buyout scenario as well as getting a top player back to play for this season and the rest of his career when they resign him (and yes it will be between 8-10M ~ because he is that freaking good).

Take a look at the buyout terms yourself:
https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jonathan-huberdeau
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 28, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
Thread: Oilers Upgrade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pens1991</b></div><div>Easy pass, this is an awful offer for the penguins.

1st they need to become sellers at the deadline.

IF they become sellers then you're way off here.

You have to add more alone to take Ceci and Pickard who have no value, and Ceci with another year on his contract.

The pens have 2 open retention spots which means in this scenario they'd be left with 0. Ceci at full value returns nothing in a trade and if the pens can't trade him they eat it for another year.

IF the pens sell Ned will not get retained given he's a cheap value and with 2 retention spots the penguins would probably look to retain Guentzel and 1 of Smith or Pettersson.

So, big pass, way off in value.</div></div>

Great point about the retention spots.